Monday 16th April 2007

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16/04/2007 at 06:38

Well done Clink on your race a good result.

Meli-I know all about Boston have a friend over there running the Marathon today!!

What: 4.5 miles easy after work and rehab exercises
Why: re- hab programme and all going really well.

So I get to run an extra day this week:-)

Have fun out there but take care in the heat.
16/04/2007 at 06:53
Morning peeps.

Not been on for a while. PC wasn't well.

45 mins steady this morning. Nice out too.

Lots and lots to read back.Hope everybody is ok and those aiming for London are tapering well.

Have a good one peeps.
16/04/2007 at 07:53
thank you poppy, i know the lyrics ;-)
i think that must be very unusual - rotterdam stopping the race, never heard of it happening before? you'd certainly be gutted after all that training. they must have had some medical advise i expect

welcome back birkmyre, hope all is well with you

lizzyB - stile leaping! i can just picture you. can you give me a few lessons - need technique for pursuing CC when he's legging it after one of his local harem.
up against it with the asthma and bad night and then a nosedive midrace but well done you on catching the man and a strong finish

DO2 - in at the deep end with a sharp race to get you back into it after illness, hope you are fully recovered

mike - i think they cut that bit out deliberately because of the heat. we are getting mollycoddled....

yesterday's results are through and i pulled back 2 points on nice rival - lying a single point behind her now with one race to go. all set for a friday night showdown

didn't the lady who won paris have a funny run? looked like she was going to trip overherself, i wonder if she's bothered having her gait analysed - doesn't seem to be slowing her down

what - recovery, either 5 mile loop or maybe a bit further
why - monday run
last hard - yesterday
last rest - 2 days

16/04/2007 at 07:55

Rotterdam?! Poor bu88ers - and a strange decision - you can't really make a call like that after 3:30 of racing.

BR - when I said I was 6 minutes off my PB it wasn't really good news!

Clink - the g&t was well earnt :-)

LizzyB - well done in the Lad's Leap.

MikeS - well run despite (in spite of?) the hamstrings.

What: Swim this morning, run tonight
Why: Back in training (83 days)
Lyrics: Yes. (I knew the band would be Welsh!)
Dubai Dave    pirate
16/04/2007 at 08:02
Hi All

Back from South Africa, it was a wrench to come back to the desert after sitting amongst the mountains and greenery of RSA.

Two Oceans Ultra 35 Miles

Friday night and the SE’ly gale is blowing past my window at a steady 35 MPH, forecast for Saturday the day of the race is the same… Help!

0430 Saturday morning sat eating my toast and can’t hear the wind, open the door and am relived to see that whilst still distinctly on the breezy side its not blowing a gale.

Arrived at the start in plenty of time unlike many runners entered in the Half Marathon whom I see desperately trying to get past the Ultra starting pens to the half start which is 200 metres further down the road and due to start at 0600.

At 0625 the hooter sounds and were off, well we walk forward, 7,000 runners on a two lane road takes sometime to spread out, consequently the first three K are well above 6 min/K . Slowly the road opens up and I settle into my 5-30 k’s that I had planned. As dawn breaks we reach the Indian Ocean at Muizenberg after about 12K and run straight into the remnants of yesterdays gale, the wind speed is probably about 20MPH and I tuck in behind a large group of runners to draft myself along, trouble is everyone is trying to do the same and no one wants to lead! The route passes through Kalk Bay and Fish Hoek before leaving the Indian ocean to cross over to the Atlantic via Sun valley, still feeling very comfortable at half way (28K) as we sight the Atlantic for the first time.

Now the hard work starts as we begin the 250M climb up Chapmans peak, but the views down over Nordhoek Beach and the Atlantic are gorgeous, the wind is on my back and the gradient isn’t too desperate. I crest the summit and am rewarded with a magnificent view down to Hout bay and a gale force wind straight into my face. Whilst coming to terms with the road suddenly going downhill, a head wind, my number starting to come loose and eating a Banana I trip over a cats eye and sprawl all over the road. Stand up brush self down, secure number, check limbs, grazed knee and elbow, nothing appears to badly damaged and set off down the hill. The assistance of gravity seems to be balancing out the headwind and I sit back to enjoy the view.

We reach Hout Bay at the bottom of the hill (damn back at sea level) and my family are waiting to cheer dad on, a quick hug with all and I set off up the road towards Constantia Nek a 300 M climb over 4K. I pass through the marathon point in 4 hours 03 mins and the wheels come off badly, legs just don’t seem to want to function. Ah well eat the Ice cream being given away at the aid station, drink as much coke as possible, remember that Stickless would certainly not quit and WALK. I eventually get to the top of the hill at the 46K mark and try out the legs, all seems to be functioning and I run off towards the finish crossing the line in 5 hours 38 mins.

So all in all not a bad day at the office, I was targeting at 5-30 finish so 8 minutes over but given the wheels coming off from 41 – 46K that’s to be expected. Once gain I learn that ultras have a way of sneaking up and biting you in the arse but that also bad patches do pass, normally food, drink and a walk can cure all.

Now back to today

What: 5.7 miles recovery d & d AM, 10 miles tempo PM
Why: Comrades
Last Hard: Two Oceans
Last Rest: Saturday
Lyrics: Yes
16/04/2007 at 08:05
Morning all

Weird about Rotterdam stopping the race, I'm sure there are marathons (Dubai?) which are run in hotter temperatures, or at least where the temp rises to that at the end. Fear of litigation or some other reason?

Clink - leap onto top step of stile (using a convenient stone as a springboard), step over onto other top step, jump off. All done without slowing down from 7m/mile pace. Easy - not! I can only do it at walking pace, even then I like to hold something. Think it's something that core strength and good ankles would help with

What: 30 miles easy on the bike
Why: Feeling a bit bruised and battered after yesterday and have a time trial tomorrow. so an easy day.

Also have appointment with an ankle specialist this afternoon, who happens to work at one of my local hospitals, who will hopefully know why my ankle has never got better from 3x ligament injuries. His research (oh isn't Google Scholar great?) is all on soft tissue injuries and sports medicine. Will report back later
16/04/2007 at 08:18

Well done DD

What: 1hour easy pm
Why: Finally get an easy week
Last Hard: Saturday
Last Rest: 31 days
16/04/2007 at 08:21
Fantastic report DD-ice cream at the aid stations sounds a top idea too!

Some excellent racing at the weekend, especially in that heat

I think ive commented on what i think about rotterdam elsewhere
suffice it to say that one isnt on my list(and the 52 mile challenge last year was run in that kind of heat, as was the south Downs marathon)
16/04/2007 at 08:24
ah, you need a bit of bounce to keep going forward over the top step. i can't get my second leg over without turning backwards. may try later

sounds a beautiful setting DD - any pics? hopefully no lasting damage from the fall, especially as you were able to run this morning. well done on gritting it out and best of luck for comrades
16/04/2007 at 08:43
Great racing DD, I like the idea of an ice cream stop during a race.

Clink - my nearest stile is about 2 miles away but this is something I have to practice! I can leap 5 bar gates easily (dive, grab bottom rung, bring legs over), but anything which involves balance is out for me. Have fun practicing, don't break anything!
16/04/2007 at 08:51
Morning. Def a shame they stopped Rotterdam. I really feel for those who had their marathon ruined. If it were me I'd be fuming. You'd think that as they knew the weather was going to be hot there would be extra water and showers set up on the course to keep the body cool. Also imo most runners entering a marathon would be sensible enough to know how to run in the heat.

Hippo, you're right SD was very hot last year.

Well done DD.

Good racing also clink, MikeS and Lizzy.

what:am 10 miles on treadmill / pm 5 miles on treadmill
why:the surface is easier on my recovering leg
16/04/2007 at 08:56
lizzy - i think its just that people who do dubai (and other hot races) are expecting that sort of heat. if you are trained and ready for it then thats fine. no one could possibly have been expecting and trained for 30+degrees yesterday. it may seem like an odd decision by the organisers but once significant numbers of runners end up in hospital they surely have to do something. fear of litigation maybe but also possibly fear of someone dying? after all the medical resources must have been massively overstretched?

rotterdam is a fabulous marathon - although i may be slightly biased as it was my first one - but it was brilliantly organised, a flat and well supported if not hugely scenic course and best of all only 7-8000 runners rather than fighting the masses at the huge city marathons.

rest day today after yesterdays race.
16/04/2007 at 09:04
hilly - they apparently had showers on the course, added two extra water stations and gave everyone a bottle of water at the start to drink before they started. they also gave out written advice at the expo about running in the heat. but once people start collapsing and having to be resuscitated i guess you have to start thinking that some runners at least obviously aren't prepared or running within their capabilities.
16/04/2007 at 09:16
Fair point M. I guess some runners don't know how to run in the heat or are not aware until it's too late of their body temp rising above that which is safe to continue.
16/04/2007 at 09:28
Clink – well done on your race and points too. Best of luck for final showdown.

MikeS – You too! How are your hamstrings today?

IronWifey - good going!

LizzyB – Well done on your race! Hope you’re not too bruised from your fall. I’d liked to have seen the look on that marshall’s face when you said no way to taking it easy! Best of luck with the specialist today.

IronMel – good on you for getting onto the turbo after all.

Pops – no not in Bude, I was in Poland last week. Luckily for you as the last time I camped in Bude the Boscastle disaster happened…

Drew – crikey he biked 20 miles after that! There was no way she could bike as she was very sick and dizzy. In fact we had to lay her at the side of the road for a while to allow her to recover, but of course it was chucking it down, so anyone that had any extra layers took them off and threw them over her. But all the same she got quite chilled. She’s ok now.

DD – well done on Two Oceans, sounds awesome to me! Those views sound just the best. Good on you for battling it out with that wind, overcoming the wheels falling off and still finishing very well indeed. :0)

16/04/2007 at 09:29
Morning all

Feel very sad for those runners whose marathon was stopped yesterday. It must have been truly awful. Hope Night Nurse had a good one.

clink - Excellent result. Now its do or die!

birkmyre - Nice to see you back.

DD - Well done. Sounds like a beautiful place to run. The ice cream a definite bonus too but still I could never imagine running further than a marathon.

Mike S - Well done. Glad your legs survived!

What: 7 miles steady
Why: Base building

Enjoy the day

16/04/2007 at 09:29
It does look grim when a big city marathon can't organise itself better than this. It's certainly not one I'd be thinking of in the future. I acknowledge they did try and act before the event but my heart goes out to people who have put in miles and miles of training, spent hundreds of pounds and sacrificed their time for this.
debbo    pirate
16/04/2007 at 09:41

I guess no one from the thread was doing Rotterdam yesterday. Sounds awful. Did they stop the marathon completely, or pull people off the course at a 'cut off' point?

DD - sounds like you had a pretty good race despite the wheels coming off. It sounds spectacular too!

Clink well done on your race - fingers crossed for friday!

Lizzy - I don't fancy jumping stiles during a race! Well done!

What: a swim, and maybe an easy run, but then again I might do that tomorrow instead!
Why: schedule
Last hard: yesterday
Last rest: tuesday

Have a good day all.
16/04/2007 at 09:42
whoopsie, nearly forgot

I have heard from david fagan

Sadly-heis knwee is still a problem, and he may be facing another arthroscopy

he says hello to everyone
16/04/2007 at 10:25
morning all!
need to read back and catch up..

spooky poppy! I was going to use these lyrics the other day, rod the mod version for me!

what: sports massage needed later
why: tight left glute is causing discomfort down back of left leg((((

last hard: yesterdays 7.57 in heat
last easy: sat

take care all and I am praying for cooler weather for flm on Sunday!

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