Monday session 13 Jan 2003

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13/01/2003 at 06:48
I've been naughty.

Having set myself the unwritten rule of not running two consecutive days, I ended up running the last three days, Friday, Saturday and Sunday. I hadn't intended to but the thing with this knee injury is that its very difficult to predict what makes it better and what worse and therefore if it doesn't feel too bad then inevitably I want to run.

Also, yesterday was such a nice running day, cold (-4) but crisp and clear with just a dusting of fresh snow - far too good to miss so I did a nice easy 70 minutes through the woods (and nearly broke my neck on a frozen puddle {more like a pond!} into the bargain).

Monday dawns and its snowing quite heavily again.

What: Cross train (30 minutes stationary bike 15 minutes row)
Why: Run last three days
Last rest: Last Thursday
Last hard: n/a at the moment
13/01/2003 at 08:24
Morning All.

Weather getting much warmer here in London.

What:-SPEED SESSION - 10 Minute Warm up, 3 * 1KM at 4 minute Kilometres, with 3 Minute Jog Recoveries in between, 10 Minute Warm Down.
Why:- FLM Schedule Says so

Last Hard: Fridays 12 Miles
Last rest: Yesterday
13/01/2003 at 09:11

Don't blame you for wanting to run on a morning like that Martin.

What: Club speed session.
Why: it's Monday.
Last hard: Sat
Last rest: Fri

Please could the 1/2 marathoners among you suggest what I should be doing this week, Helsby on Sunday.
My plan:
Mon: speed sess
Tues: rest/recovery run
Wed: 8 miles incl 6 @ marathon pace
Thurs: 6 incl 3 @ 1/2m pace
Fri: rest/recovery run
Sat: rest

Feel torn between wanting to taper well and still get the miles in.
13/01/2003 at 09:12
Decided to do an early morning run (it's been about a year) woke up at 5.50 - got the missus to call me from work by six - took one look out the window - went back to bed.

maybe tonight

training was awful over the weekend just one 5 miler on saturday. -I'll try and squeeze in a run late this afternoon.
so much for morning runs eh?
13/01/2003 at 09:17
Laura sounds ok to me just go easy on your recoveries...
13/01/2003 at 09:20
Laura - I generally don't rest the day before a race and would normally run 2-3 miles at a VERY steady jog with perhaps a couple of strides.

I also think you're Wed +Thur sessions are a bit hard back to back so I would be tempted to switch the Thursday session to Wednesday and on the Thursday just do an easy/steady five.

If you're taking this race seriously, recovery is more important this week than mileage.

Good luck to you and all other Helsby runners.
13/01/2003 at 09:23
What: nothing again, even getting out of bed is causing some problems at the moment - my back has gone, big time.

Laura - looks good, but I would reverse the Wednesday and Thursday sessions, make sure that Friday really was restful, and put in a short run on Saturday, with some "brisk bits".
13/01/2003 at 09:25
What: Rest day, absolutely necessary, having been outrageously energetic over the weekend.
so- pool, exercises only, and heel walking, well almost. very educational, that.

Hilly- thanks for telling me about your numb foot. All little bits of information help. I have met physios who are excellent at training real athletes with basicly healthy nerves/muscles/joints, there are physios with heaps of experience with very poorly nerves/muscles, but so far I haven't met any with experience of dealing with slightly poorly wannabe athletes. So I go it largely on my own, and every bit helps.

Thanks also to all of you who gave advice on reading matter. I found one of the books in a shop downtown, will try to have a look for the other today.

Run well.
13/01/2003 at 09:31
What: Rest
Why: Monday = scheduled rest day
Last Rest: Monday
Last Hard: Yesterday
13/01/2003 at 09:34
Morning All!!

Hurrah at last I feel well enough to run and start training again after finally getting rid of whatever the bug was I had last week.

What : easy 6-7 miler
Why : Cross Country yesterday (and running through icy puddles didn't have make my toes cold!)

Last Rest : Sat
Last Hard : Yesterday - ran out of steam at the end and lost two places in the last 400m.
13/01/2003 at 09:37
Johnny- ever considered getting yourself down to the pool? For about five years I could count on losing about six weeks a year in bed to bad backs. Since starting pool exercises three years ago, in spite of pretty devastating muscle problems which continued, I have not been in bed with a bad back since.

Stand in water chest high. 1.swing leg forward and back, straight leg, having tightened back and lower abs first. 2. tighten back and abs, swing arms forward and back, trying as it were to knock yourself over. 3. Tighten abs and back, swing arms from side to side. 4. Tighten abs and back, walk across pool and back, forwards, backwards and sideways.

You'll notice tighten abs and back features pretty largely in the instructions. Don't work hard at it, just think about it. All of this can be done quite gently so you can begin to get going pretty soon after you can actually get yourself to a pool.

Even if its your first time ever in bed with bad back, it's well worth while make quite sure it gets really well. You run a lot better afterwards if you do.

The right sort of anti-inflammatory for you can also cut recover time by a factor of three.

Earnest sympathy. M
13/01/2003 at 09:46
what: rest
why: time to, still not running :-(
last hard day: Friday
last rest: sat

laura: after your weekend I think your week looks a bit demanding for a good taper, a lot may depend on how tough you find tonites club session - I guess it depends how impressed coach was with your X/C efforts.

13/01/2003 at 10:16
Hi all.

What: Cricket nets. But I might rest as it's the day between a race and my club night.
Why: It's Monday.
Hard: Race yesterday.
Rest: Saturday.

Had a good first-ever club race yesterday - managed 39:20 for five miles. Not impressive to most, but I was pleased, having only hoped to get close to 40. Hooray!

Happy whizzing, everyone.
13/01/2003 at 10:29
Hi All,

Well done swerve, souds impressive to me.

What: weights and gentle stretching
Why: That damned Hal Again
Last Hard: Yesterday, not fast just muddy and I don't ache just a bit weary
Last Rest: Wednesday\Today

Managed a whole week of my shedule without missing a day. Yippee
13/01/2003 at 10:37
morning all

What- 1m jog, the 4*1/2m fast with 1/4m jogs in between, then 1m jog home 38mins
Why- had to swop training around this week to suit work
Last hard- today
last rest- last mon( naughty I know)

getting the hang of this fast/slow stuff now, although the 4th rep hurt like hell
13/01/2003 at 11:12
Morning All

What - 4-5 easy
Why - running with Sis who's been out through injury
Last Hard - Yesterday 7.5m with some evil hills
Last Rest - Saturday

13/01/2003 at 11:26
Mornin' all!

We have snow! At last!!!!! but the temp is +3 so it's going fast.

And for the first time in a fortnight, I feel fairly well which is fantastic! Anyway, off to get test results from docs this afternoon to see if it really was salmonella or something even more gruesome ...

What: 4 miles, brisk (just done it)
Why: The long, slow march back to fitness
Last hard: Ages ago

Enjoy today, everyone
13/01/2003 at 12:07
Greetings All,

as you know I seriously favour the rest and recovery approach to running ;-) so I think I would probably taper a bit more than you are planning if you're in the hunt for a PB. On the other hand if you are planning to 'train through' then your plan look about right. I'm doing the Folksworth 15 on Sunday and plan to use it more as a long training run at a bit quicker than planned marathon race pace and will therefore just train as normal during the week but take Saturday off as a bit of a mini-taper.

What: rest
Why: Monday = rest
Last hard run: Yesterday
Last rest day: Today.
13/01/2003 at 12:35
Morning all!

What - rest
Why - long run at marathon pace yesterday, speedwork tomorrow, washing machine up the spout so can't use up too much kit on non-scheduled runs!
Last rest - Saturday
Last hard - yesterday
13/01/2003 at 12:54
Hello All,

What: 5k recovery run, 15 mins cycle, 2000m row & weights

Why: changed schedule to suit, as away from tomorrow - nightmare!! Got to fit training in somehow during a 10-day work trip.

Last Hard: yesterdays long run

Happy running!

Last rest: Friday
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