Monday session (14/10/2002)

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14/10/2002 at 07:15
Seem to have managed to 'run around' the tight hamstring I acquired last week, by stretching, massage and gentle running. Managed to get in two runs over the weekend including a run over an hour yesterday.

What: Probably 4-5 easy
Why: Bit tired after weekend plus still harbouring thoughts of Franfurt marathon.
Last hard day: over a week ago
Last rest: Friday

Its taken over a week for my legs to start feeling 'normal' again after the marathon, and still my left calf is tight. But seem to have a spring back in my step and will look maybe to do one and a half to 2 hours next weekend, if I can do that comfortably then I might still decide to do Frankfurt.
14/10/2002 at 08:11
Morning !
What : 7 miles easy
Why : 10 hard miles yesterday
Last hard day : yesterday
Last Rest day: Saturday
14/10/2002 at 08:27
A very good morning to one and all; the sky is bright, the birds are singing and all around children are playing happily....

What: rest
Why: ran Denstone half yesterday in 1:39:36.
Very pleased as I thought that 1:40 would be optimistic on this "challenging" course. At the start of the summer I ran a flat 5K in just over 24 mins so there's something to be said for this training!

P.S. Yesterday's run may have influenced my opening paragraph. In the afternoon I watched Paula and found myself irrationally thinking "I know just how you feel".
14/10/2002 at 08:32
What: swim
Why : 9 miles yesterday
Last hard day : Thursday
Last rest day : Saturday (swim)
14/10/2002 at 08:46
Well done, DavidB - brilliant time. Martin, I am glad you are starting to feel better after your self-inflicted ordeal. Gillian, you are a serious endorphin addict. Respect, all.

What: rest day.
Why: I'm due one. Also cossetting my immune system - "start" of a cold yesterday hasn't progressed beyond my nose so I'll probably be OK (It's not a random thing - husband has a real snorter - and if I were a supplement-taker I'd be crediting the powdered octopus snot or whatever for "nipping it in the bud"). And do feel as if a little muscle repair-work is needed here and there after yesterday's race.
Last hard day: yesterday.
Last rest day: Friday.
WildWill    pirate
14/10/2002 at 09:00
Morning all – could of sworn I spotted an arc being built by a bloke with a beard this morning ;o)

What : Swim Drills (This afternoon)
Why : I take it easy over the last 3 weeks of October

Last Hard Day : Thursday
Last Rest Day : Saturday

14/10/2002 at 09:17

What: nowt, knackered.
Why: see here for explanation.
Last hard run: Definitely yesterday
Last rest day: Today
14/10/2002 at 09:27
What: rest - bad neck again
why: Building arc over weekend
where: Animal gathering
why: God moves in mysterious ways

(mind you - so do I with the stiff neck)
14/10/2002 at 09:28
How do you do that thing with blue link MM?

Glad you're recovering Martin.

What: club speed session tonight. Am happy to remain in blissful ignorance as to the exact nature of this until I get there.
Why: Going to club to make myself do regular speed sessions this autumn.
Last hard: Fri.
Last rest: Sat.
14/10/2002 at 09:29
good morning

What: a rest
Why: because I can't run and pout sulkily at the same time!
Last hard run: Saturday in the Hampshire Cross Country league - 5k in 23:22 and thoroughly beaten by 99 supremely fit young women in their serious kit - although I didn't come last, I'm glad to say. Also thoroughly beaten yesterday (Sunday) in a cyclo-cross (off road bike) race yesterday and came 34th out of 35 finishers (40 starters) mostly men but it never made a difference in previous years. (quietly suppresses sob)
Last rest day: well maybe I've been having too many!!!!
14/10/2002 at 09:30
Damn wet what!

What - 4 steady
Why - 9 yesterday so need an easy today
last hard day - Sunday
last rest - Sat
14/10/2002 at 09:34
Hi all! I also had a good run at Merrill College yesterday, MM and got a PB. (61 mins...okay, I know that's laughable to the rest of you but I felt good about it.)

What: rest day.
Why: see above
Last hard day: yesterday
Last rest day: saturday
14/10/2002 at 09:57
Morning all,

What: Rest
Why: Amsterdam marathon this Sunday
Last hard run: Last Tuesday
Last rest: Today


14/10/2002 at 10:05
Best of luck for Amsterdam - what's your time goal?
14/10/2002 at 10:34
What: undecided yet. Possibly nothing, possibly might accompany elder son on a v short outing (his XC training at school is off tonight), might even try a 20-30 minute thrash on the bike by way of a change.

Why: a) yesterday evening, chest felt like it was finally succumbing to a bug (haven't had a respiratory bug or cold now for 6 months - a long time for me). Fortunately (a couple of Echinaceas later), that feeling has gone this morning (but still feel that a cold might be lurking round the corner).

aside - Sorry Vrap, but given that I started taking Echinacea just after the last bug I do perceive a cause-and-effect here! If this run continues much further into autumn, I'm going to start using terms like "statistically significant"

b) After yesterday's 10K, got an invite from one of the Wirral runners who beat me to accompany them on their session on Hoylake prom on Tuesday night. From what I've seen, many of the runners who beat me yesterday will be there - also it'll be the first time since schooldays that I've done a group training session! So that's something to look forward to - want to make sure I'm OK for that.

last hard day: Sun
last rest day: Sat
14/10/2002 at 10:43
Yippee my two weeks of rest are up. I've been really grumpy because I thought 'No don't train - take it easy', and its been driving me up the wall. So....

what : gentle 5 mile at lunch time round the banks of the Thames

why : first day back in training.

last hard day : two weeks ago on Sunday - Berlin marathon
last rest day : yesterday

14/10/2002 at 10:48
Mike, in a trial involving one person, you'd have to be free of respiratory bugs for about 15,000 years before being able to claim statistical significance even at p=0.5 level.

I have had one respiratory bug a year for several years without taking echinacea and despite daily occupational exposure to viruses, which could possibly be used, equally spuriously, to "prove" that echinacea INCREASES susceptibility to respiratory infections (I seem to remember offering the same suggestion about vitamin C on the old forums, and the thread degenerating cheerfully into looking for evidence that a daily pot of Muller Rice is the best way to ward off colds).

But statistics are flexible and deeply held beliefs are rarely altered by scientific evidence.
14/10/2002 at 11:04

Don't know what to expect in Amsterdam. Flat,fast course so I will set out with the intention of running a sub-3 and see how it goes! Well, you have to dream :o)

14/10/2002 at 11:14
What: either rest or 5 mile recovery
Why: training is completely without structure at the moment
last hard day: does yesterday's 60min fartlek at 80% whr on a treadmill count as hard
last rest day : sat

Yesterday was meant to be a 2hr long run but weather so foul I opted out and did the treadmill session above. This means I will be doing 2 1/2m's a month apart with no long run (> 90 mins) between them. This leaves me concerned as I worry about the endurance base.

Anyone aware of good guidance on how to sustain a half M training capability? All guides are framed around a build-up to race, not "how to tick over".
14/10/2002 at 11:18
Laid low the last day or so by a similar stomach problem that knocked me pre Windsor.
Didn't get out at all yesterday (although having watched Paula I was desperate for a run).

Today : maybe 30 mins easy
Last Rest : Yesterday
Last Hard : Thursday

Next race on Sunday (fleet) then a couple of weeks off (cyprus for half term - yippee!) before clocking up the miles again in preparation for next springs marathon!

Well done all with the weekend racing performances.I seem to spend hours on a Monday reading the 'events' forum!
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