Moraghan Training - Stevie G

You can't have a DNS on Sunday SG - I'm relying on you for a lift

Glad I made the decision not to do a second run tonight - most of the pavements nearby are covered in black ice, as is the road until the main road - its going to be interesting on my bike in the morning!

Do you still have those shorts Ric? You do look like a runner in that pic - you just don't look like you!

No run today, walking was painful. Physio tomorrow for a beasting. Use this week to get over it then back on it next week. It's just over-use injury that's been... overused! So some rest will do me good, welcomed as work is keeping me late this week so wouldn't be able to fit a PM run in anyway.

Nice session SG for a pre-race loosener.

Been a long time since i dropped in on here! Good to see some people are still getting out to run in the world even if there seems to be a few niggles...

Just to update on whats happened to me as irritating when people disappear off the face of the running earth... i tried another comeback in september and the injury broke down again...havent run since the last day of september and even the gym aggravates it. Just walking around i have pain from tight abductors and the original groin strain can still be felt, physio simply suggested stretching routine as my legs are very tight but beyond that no answer really. If any lessons can be learnt for other people from my experience its dont rush back into training after a marathon even if you feel great...what initially felt like an innocuous mild pull has kept me out for 7 months and could possibly be years as no sign of it improving let alone healing. Was pretty hard to take initially but been kept busy/happy from other areas of life, if it does heal i'll get back to running and posting but if it doesnt will have to look at other sports long term as miss the competitive buzz of racing and the release of intense exercise...time out does give abit of perspective and must admit if i ever get the chance to run again i'll appreciate every mile no matter how painful!

SG, I was wearing my wife's sunglasses that day. Blazing hot, I think the race started at some daft hour like 11:00am.

Bus, different shorts these days and, if complete cellular turn over takes 10 years then technically speaking, the guy in the picture was someone else.

Chingo, sorry to hear about the current set back. Some injuries are right buggers. A tiny tweak makes a mess. The mess sets something else off. Sets like concrete and mucks some other nearby structure up. A domino effect gets going and before you know it, you're moving about like someone who's been drawing their pension for 20 years.

I shouldn't use the word 'always', but its the word I use with injuries. I've found so far that given time, they always get better. 

Anyway, this is the thread to discuss running injuries. We've earned the right. If we hadn't been prepared to push the limits, to be competitive, we wouldn't have found our limits.

Of course, we do get some pretty good results when things go well.

SG, "I'll be back".

Cripes Chingo, I guess some of us presumed you were back into it, and building up to a smashing comeback race.

Sorry to hear about things, that's a big chunk of the year to be benched, and probably sums up the sport of running in a nutshell...feel on top of the world with pbs one min, then out injured the next!

If it's any consolation/encouragement at all, I had a worse year in 07. A mild groin strain and chicken pox pretty much obliterated the whole year, racing only once. At least you had 3-4months of racing!

You'll come back, just sounds a complete balls ache to know how to rest and what to do in the meantime. I guess you just have to lock your mind on the recovery mode, forget the previous racing, stay away from the race mad pals for a bit, and give it time.

There is a bizarre "peace" when you know you're out for a while after the not knowing stage. It's like you need the acceptance of that to be able to properly focus on the recvovery

Best of luck

Ric, Chingo's bad luck puts our own niggles into persepective....we're at that stage where it doesn't feel quite right but we know we can run if needs be. And need does normally be!!

Chingo, great to hear from you, and good to hear that you're well in all senses apart from the running one.

Sounds like you've had a rubbish time of it in the last 7 months, but you have an admirable sense of perspective on it.  However, you've got age on your side, and I'm sure you'll be able to get back into it.  People come back from all knids of injury nightmares, so I'm sure you'll be able to   In the meantime, it provides an excellent opportunity to do the things in life that typically get in the way of running, like going on a 12-month bender.

I think with your drive, this won't be the last we'll hear of your running on this forum.

Chingo - I can only echo what the others have said. Really sorry to hear your injury dragging on. If you haven't already, I would suggest a second (third or fourth!) opinion from s physio/specialist. Best of luck with the recovery.

SG - fingers crossed tonights rain doesn't turn to snow and/or freeze and leave a problem for Sunday! My road was still a sheet of ice tonight and the forecast is for heavy rain and low temperatures tonight! Also, although far enough away to change, the forecast now is for a stiffish breeze coming from the west on Sunday morning - exactly the direction you don't want when crossing that airfield where it is very exposed!

A december 10k is always going to be a gamble these days!

exactly that Busly, if conditions are dodgy, they're dodgy and can't be changed.

I just hope for one of 2 scenarios...1) so bad it's cancelled, so we can mosy on over to Handy Cross XC instead, or 2) fine conditions!

Yeah, I was thinking of Bradenham as a possible fall back - if the worst comes to the worst, I can run there off-road from here, though that would make one hell of a long run! 

hhmmmm, i've been niggle free until joining in this thread... pretty sure I've caught this tight calf and abdomen pain off one of you

Tough session for me last night - 45 min progression run. 15 mins @ 7.15pace / 15 mins @ 6.08 pace / 15 mins @ 5.57 pace. In the wind and rain, that really isn't a fun session but you just know when you've finished that it's those sessions that build you as a runner.

Interesting picture RicF - or at least I think it would be if we could see it properly

Good luck with the run on Sunday Bus/SG. Where is it?

Andy readin 10k, which starts near Bicester, though in reality is in the middle of no-where!

SG - we will have some illustrious company on Sunday! Our local Olympian purveyor of pasties will be joining us....

good, a pacer for the obligatory foolishly fast first km.

Seriously though, I'm hoping the race day magic overrides the aches as it did at the Xc the other week!

Smashing the pb and exorcising the Bicester demons would be a monumental end to the year!

Johnas wrote (see)

 

Interesting picture RicF - or at least I think it would be if we could see it properly

 

Hi guys. I know what you mean.

You would not believe the trouble I've had trying to get an image into the profile box.

I mean 12.5kb is almost nothing. And just about every image I have is mega something.

Every means to reduce image size has met with failure after a bizarre initial success. Downloaded and used all sorts of programs. They seem to bottom out at 35kb. No use here.

The Runners world 'help desk' is no use since they keep sticking on cropped pics with added bits.

To use modern parlance, its 'doing my fucking head in'.

Oh, did manage a short run. Back problem almost gone. Still doing a 60 minute stint on the bike.

ric, presume you've just gone into paint and tried to reduce there?

having said that, yes it is an a-hole..hence me using a pic advertising my old club.

Although i do look borderline handsome in this one...has to happen occasionally!

ps i thought your pic was a bee smoking a small cigar

borderline

I quite like that pic ric - a nice element of surrealness! Better than the boring race pose everyone else on this forum seems to have gone for (myself included!).

Glad to hear the back is settling down.

How far do you think you could keep up with Cooray for then SG? I've tried at Risborough 10k - managed about 10 metres!

Bus, after sodding about for hours on the picture profile problem, I think you have made a quite profound observation.

On my face at a dark moment.

I'll leave it there.

Johnas,

 Its been here before, but again for your closer inspection. 

Bus won the prize for guessing both make of shoe and model.

Don't do XC. It can be really tiring. And muddy.

Bus, I'd have him for a mile.

If i could then drop out at said mile, and just die.

Work Christmas do, silly posting time. Allow it.

SG, Keep up with Cooray!

Only one of those guys sporting this lot, would fancy his chances:

Headband, sunglasses, baggy t-shirt & shorts, large trainers and of course the iconic item that defines this type of hero, the ipod.

I see lads like this out training all the time. They are invariably jogging along with their girlies; a shared experience for them but a dilemma for him. Basically, If he runs off, she'll drop him from her favours.

The choice is straightforward. Stay and pull the girl or risk having to pull himself.

Back to the Cooray situation. Invariably the only time our ipod warrior is let off the leash is at a race when his girly expects him to win; to prove himself, but only to her.

So he sprints off at the front along with any others of his type, including the rejects.

They can't win.

 W.....kers either way!

a chap matching the above description tried to pull exactly this stunt at the last 5k me and Bus did.

The quality at the front was more Fabian Downs than Cooray, but we're still talking a 15min 5k man.

The ipod man wsa keeping pace for about 100metres, but by about 200metres me and Bus were comfortably ahead, and that was the end of his glory I'm afraid.