Moraghan Training - Stevie G

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10/12/2012 at 14:14

That's why I can't see them!

You should have said it - I'll make sure I do next time! Whippersnapper!

Pleasant 7M steady at lunch, along the canal. The combination of shoes with absolutely no grip and copious mud at times made an interesting combination!

10/12/2012 at 14:34

Take him to school Bus. Nothing like some rage to help do that

Just as a little aside, to highlight the ARC frustration and general hard luck stories with 10ks;

Since the 36:44 that power of 10 held as my pb from 2010, I've run 8 10ks on the road.
5 have been sub 36, a hot race was 20secs quicker than that "Pb", and even doing the hilly Wycombe 10k was only 3 and 4 secs slower than 36.44 these last 2 years!

Just a 3.5 and a 3 today. Fresh unsurprisingly after the wind reducing the speed levels.. Not sure I need tomorrow as a rest day, might ask the Coach man to schedule me up instead.

 

Edited: 10/12/2012 at 14:34
PC2
10/12/2012 at 21:51

Good runs at the weekend gents. A couple from my club where at Andy Reading, SG you were quite close to James Craggs, thought he'd be further ahead as he's been pasting us in training and XC, and Bus you had the beating of a good runner in Wayne Lillis.

Back in today after 4 days off last week with illness - 16 miles done in two runs.

10/12/2012 at 22:16

Thanks pc2. Wayne does an impressively wide range of distances!

11/12/2012 at 09:25

SG/Bus - Considering the conditions, not bad times at all! Lots of positives to be taken and as you say, you can't guarantee weather conditions. Still, tough conditions are what build us as runners. 2013 will be PB year.

11/12/2012 at 12:26

Cheers Bus & SG, will do some stretching and invest in a foam roller.

I notice some more familiar names on the Wokingham entrant list...

11/12/2012 at 14:46

Dachs, good luck with the foam roller, seems to do wonders for a lot of chaps on here. Haven't quite found the beauty of it yet, seems to only affect the calves and quads,areas I'm fine on anyway.

Had to switch Tue and Thur's sessions around, as a single 12 on Thursday would be impossible.  Therefore, 12 done and dusted. Hip was stiff from midway, but I guess it's not helped by the cold, and just a case of staying strengthening it daily.

 

11/12/2012 at 18:27

Been checking over the previous results of my next race, the Buntingford 10 miles.

I've a suspicion its not UKA registered, and have sent an email to check this out.

If it doesn't go on PO10 then I don't go!

TVXC at Metros patch in Mad Bess Woods this Sunday. I'm aiming to go for a run around the course tommorow. I'll take a camera and Garmin to get full info on the course. And also to chew it up a bit more. 

Edited: 11/12/2012 at 18:35
11/12/2012 at 19:09

you can check on PO10 in the fixtures can't you Ric?

Although sometimes that is easier said than done...

I'm thinkin of the XC too... Mee Meep told me it was 5.6miles, yet the blurb that came out today suggests a ridiculous 6.2miles.

Which is it?

11/12/2012 at 19:40

SG, The Bunt is ARC registered, which sounds familiar, as in wrong un!

The XC course is probably just over 6 miles on account of it being a 3 lapper. But then again, I suspect from the finishing times, its shorter. 

I'll work it out tomorrow. Either way its not the most testing course around as there is usually plenty of firm ground.

Metros used to do the race half a mile to the east but the Nature Reserve guys stopped it on account of the runners feet messing up the ground.

The fact that a bunch of cattle are free to roam the area completely f...ing it up seems to have escaped them.

For what its worth. The Middx Vets use the same woods but a different course. 

They only run 5 miles but its bloody dangerous. The Metros run part way up a compacted stone track three times, bypassing the steepest part at the top on account of turning left, and via an additional loop, topping the hill in a different place.

The Middx vets only come down this track, but all the way from the top, twice.

Fell runners might like it but not me. I lose a full minute to the nutters on this descent and I've got injured on it the past two years.

 

 

Edited: 11/12/2012 at 19:40
11/12/2012 at 19:49

Yeah a chap who measured it from last year made it 5.65miles. He's either carved a chunk of a lap off, or they're just bungling fools sending the wrong total out each year, or just reduced it since they first measured it.

Reminds me of the Datchet summer series 5k (yeah you lot Datchet lurkers). Consistently over distance over the years...you can tell when you're coming out comfortably slower than in the other 4 when some of the others involve proper undulations!

Be interested to see your course measurement tomorrow, although you'll have to run the exact route, as I expect they're not soul destroying enough to make you go past the finish each lap!

IronCat5    pirate
11/12/2012 at 20:34

Hi All. I've been hiding in workland Looks like some good racing over the past weekend. HX XC was good fun as always, including a tumble on the flat. Very muddy though.

Today was 6 x 800m at 3minutes, with 90s RI. 2:57, 2:56, 3:03, 3:10, 3:01, 3:07. All run on the road. It was still icy in the shade in some places.

Ric - is the Metros course suitable for spikes? No results from HX yet...

PC2
11/12/2012 at 22:15

10 x 3 mins with 1 min standing recovery on the grass tonight. Covered between 0.52 and 0.57 miles each time, which comes out at a mid to high 5.3X min per mile pace. Wasn't too cold once we got going but had icy hair by the end.

12/12/2012 at 06:23

SG, Ir Cat.

The course is ok for both studs and spikes. There's just a couple of small sections of harder stuff, but if you attempt the course in normal trail shoes or flats, then you'll be sliding about.

The actual start/finish is in a small field away from the main course. So its around the field; which takes less than a minute, straight into the woods up a slight hill....laps and then back into the field.

Laps yes. Soul destroying, far from it. In the actual race its a mark of the front runners to see how many back markers they can catch.

12/12/2012 at 08:00

now that sounds a decent challenge. Must be possible by the start of lap 3 at least?

Can't be great to be lapped mind!

12/12/2012 at 09:46

In any race, the fast guys are over twice the speed of the slow ones so will reach the end of their second lap before the slow ones have even done one lap. At Metros last year the winner was 33:45 and the slowest finisher was 1:13:29. I can't recall exactly but from the start of the third lap I was lapping slow runners and it is a narrow course so was a bit of a bother.

Course was 5.59 miles last year on my garmin trace. It is actually quite a technical race, lots of narrow paths and if you take a tight line on corners etc you can save a fair few metres.

 

12/12/2012 at 10:58

Back from the course.

According to my Garmin (which made C.Patch 10.12 miles) calculations made it 5.73 miles.

0.17ml for the start section, 1.82 mls for each full loop and 0.10 ml for the finish section.

No problem last year with slower runners. I just barged them out of the way. Most of them are from my own club and lets face it, they're only women

Edited: 12/12/2012 at 11:57
12/12/2012 at 12:07

nice Ric!

Good, shorter the better for these type courses i find.

I'll go in thinking 5 1/2miles and should be alright.

Try and look a hero overtaking some pretty girlies

12/12/2012 at 12:10

 

 

 

Some pictures. I hope. Top pic is the start/finish area.

Next is the first mud, less than a mile in. Local knowledge means you can bypass this shithole by aiming at the twig to the right of the mess.

3rd is worse mud at top of hill.

Final pic is, turn right at post for next lap, turn left for finish.

http://s4.runnersworld.co.uk/members/images/493151/gallery/p1000423.png?width=350

 

 

http://s4.runnersworld.co.uk/members/images/493151/gallery/p1000430.png?width=350

 

 

http://s4.runnersworld.co.uk/members/images/493151/gallery/p1000431.png?width=350

 

 

http://s4.runnersworld.co.uk/members/images/493151/gallery/p1000433.png?width=350

 

 Nice!

Edited: 12/12/2012 at 12:12
IronCat5    pirate
12/12/2012 at 18:25
I see many twigs. XC spikes ordered.
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