Over 60s training.

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17/04/2003 at 07:30

Wow, I am gob smacked, 5th in the LV60 that is IMPRESSIVE,in fact ABSOLUTELY BLOODY FANTASTIC. I am so very proud of you. The whole thing is about mental strength, to get one out there in the first place and then to do all that tough training then to run that wonderful sub 4 hr race.

I am very jealous that you ran all that way with the handsome Johnny, maybe we will have to fight over him!!!! Seriously he sounds a good pace maker.

So you are tall, I weigh more than 8 stone, I have quite a large frame and obviously more fat than you. I have thought of a better way to describe myself than skinny with bits sticking out here and there. I think that one could call me athletic, it sounds a bit more flattering!

How did you feel the next couple of days, presumable you came home that evening which meant a long journey being very imobile in a car. Which cannot have been easy.

What are your plans now re races etc. Will you cut your training dramatically. I am presuming that you are a farmers wife, I have a friend who is such in Yorks and runs marathons and is very very slim like your self. I do not know how you both find time to fit in all the training.

I will look at yours and Johnny's splits a bit later in the day when I have more time.

It is harder being a man in this veteran running world, as there are many many more of them still running.
17/04/2003 at 08:39
See what happens when you go running. I've not had two ladies discussing me in those terms since I was about 7. You may take me to dinner (I'm fond of the Ritz in Piccadilly) where we can discuss these matters.

Don't compare the splits. It's embarrassing. Maybe I'm not a marathon runner.

I'm still soooooo impressed with that run. I keep telling everyone I ran with this lady who went sub-4 and was 5th in the age group. Incidently, Mrs. JJ and I are in Cornwall Monday to Thursday for a break and visits to the Eden Project and the Lost Gardens of Heligan. We're staying at the Rosevine Hotel.

Will run gently tomorrow and commence summer training routine.
17/04/2003 at 08:53
There is is definately something in the 'air'. You are off to Cornwall next week. Well we are going for a week 17th May, staying in the village of Blisland (where ever that is). It is near to The Eden Project etc. The whole family are going, it is to celebrate Mrs ceal's husbands 50th birthday. I have not been to Cornwall for 39 years. Far too long.

Feeling much better again today, still coughing, but less so. Will definately be out for another hour today, make the most of the warm sunny weather while it lasts. I do not look forward to cold weather again.

LI I expect you are off to the caravan again this w/e, have a good one with good training by the sea.
17/04/2003 at 09:12

Firstly congratulations to you and everyone else for your Marathons, all very impressive.

I thought you might be interested in reading this short book by Gordon Pirie (if you haven't already) as like you he felt a lot was over complicated by people with a vested interest! I wouldn't necessarily agree with all he says and the training is somewhat extreme, but he raises some very interesting points and I found it an interesting read. I must confess to not recognising the name or knowing who he was until after reading the ‘book’.


17/04/2003 at 11:58
Now I know why you finished so well. Most of the women runners were chasing you hoping to molest you.
We are not going to caravan this w/e. Weather is looking decidedly colder then and especially on East coasts. Probably after when Easter crowds have gone and weather warmer again! Always happens.
Going down today to book hopefully for a week's tour of Scotland in May
Ran another 6 mile yesterday,third day on "trot". Marg enjoyed her 2+mile stint and then we both soaked up the glorious sun by a leisurely walk around the birds lake and fishing lake. You just can't beat being retired, we thoroughly recommend!
Keep on running...................
17/04/2003 at 14:14
I ensorse JJ's words, good training running. His advice is invaluable as usual. Glad Marg enjoyed her run too. We will have her on this website yet!
17/04/2003 at 14:26
Well I got out for my run in the lovely sunshine. I ran an old route which I thought I knew all the mile markers, I did not realise how roughly I had measured them in the past. I came back having taken 68 minutes to run only 7 miles. I was so despondent for most of the run, thinking that this virus must have taken more out of me than I thought. I kept making excuses like it's a very undulating route etc. None of which helped my attitude. In the end, later in the morningI took the car out and measured the distance, (I cannot do this with most of my runs, because either one cannot take the car or I have taken footpaths or shortcuts etc). I was so relieved to find that I had ran 7.6 miles. Hence the mood quickly changed.

I found the run not as easy as the other day, my stride was stiff, for whatever reason.

I shall do some gentler than usual faster running tomorrow with a minute longer than usual rest inbetween sprints. Rest on Saturday then I do hope to do a long run on Sunday, 13 miles I hope. May 11th is looming along so quickly, I could easily panic.
17/04/2003 at 17:30
You are right of course. I think it was just that I thought the situation was beyond my control, and it is that I do not like. If I DECIDE for whatever reason not to do a race, training session that's OK. But for my body to decide on it's own it cann't do something, well that is a different story. Perhaps that does not make sense! But I hope there is a glimmer of sense there.

The half coming up on 11th is a marie curie daddodil run at Sandringham. I thought it would be a very scenic race to enter. I have tried to find it in the RW events, with no luck. Because that would lead me to a thread if there is one. However, it would not come up on the events. I find not much comes up unless you put in all the info. some of which one may not know. However, I will look later, together with the FLM splits.

You are marathon runner, no maybe I am not etc. from you. I would be thrilled with your time however, I do detect a disappointment.
18/04/2003 at 13:23
I hope you get to read this before you set off on Monday. I just wanted to say to both you and your other half have a brilliant week in Cornwall. Have a good rest too, very justified and well earned.
18/04/2003 at 13:24

I envy both of you being retired. The only drawback of being married to someone 13 yrs younger is that I will have to wait a long time for him to be retired!
18/04/2003 at 16:55
Hi Ceal,

I have the details for you.
Sandringham, Norfolk
Sandringham visitors centre
£10 (reduced to £9 for affiliated runners.
closing date: 02/05/03 (no entries on the day.
limit: 1500
enquiries: Mel Ford 01604 442313
unit 9
Mobbs Miller house
Ardington road
Northampton NN1 5LP
Free Tshirt

good luck!
18/04/2003 at 17:09
Thanks Spud, are you running this one? Have a good easter break.
19/04/2003 at 21:00
Hi All,
Off to Cornwall are we? Why not you L.I. Have we offended you? Enjoy the daffs and Eden. Blisland is up on Bodmin Moor where you can climb Rough Tor, Ceal - the highest spot in Cornwall. Pronounced Row(as in having an argument) Tor. JJ can shoot across to Perranporth on Monday and take part in the Piran Surf 10K starting on the beach at midday.
How did I feel after the marathon, Ceal? Not too bad actually. Slightly spaced out for a while but physically fine. As is norm I had the most discomfort in my lower legs about two days later. Last time I was foolish and returned home the same night. Stupid and I really paid for it by feeling stiff for days. This time I walked for a couple of miles in the evening and then went home the next day after a good nights sleep. I didn't eat a great deal but have had a huge appetite since!

I will now go onto my summer schedule of a 10 miler and a 5 miler each week. Nothing more that that until the sailing season eases in October. Then I will build up to four sessions a week (one long) and aim to do at least one road race a month simply to give myself goals. Although I will have a guaranteed place in the next 2 FLMs I certainly won't do the next one. I am planning on joining our local running club Hayle Road Runners but can only take part in their sessions occasionally during the summer. They train on sailing nights! I race three days a week and teach sailing on a fourth. Yes, I am involved in farming. Some of my best training has been chasing sheep - both here and in New Zealand!
I agree that it is important to have your miles measured accurately. Otherwise you are in danger of thinking you are awful or brilliant when neither might be the case! I use a car on the roads and pinch the GPS from the boat for off-road!

Snake Hips - this running business is definitely over-complicated by the vested interests. I saw someone in the marathon running with a heart monitor. He was so busy trying to read it that he never saw me overtake him! I don't need a heart monitor. If I am running a bit too fast I get out of breath. If I am running far too fast I keel over. Not exactly rocket science!

Have a good Easter break everybody. Enjoy Cornwall. Can't get to see you JJ. Just as well otherwise they will be talking about us. Identical split times plus the fact that we will almost certainly be captured on camera running side by side all the way.

See ya. Some nice person videod the whole of the marathon for me so I'm off to watch it from a different perspective. To find myself I will have to watch out for JJ because he will stand out in the crowd!

20/04/2003 at 11:00
Hi Ceal,
No, I am not doing it. Good luck with your training.
Have a lovely Easter!
20/04/2003 at 11:45
Hi Anna . Who are you? Nice to have you join this web site. Tell us more, please.
20/04/2003 at 13:21
Pussy, JJ

How do I look at your split times? I tried on the LM official site, managed to get you result but that is all.

As for me not able to go out today to do long run, my resting pulse is up too much for that or any training. the virus is obviously still around. Infuriating. I do still feel tired. Saw Russell Watson in B'ham in concert last evening, brilliant performance.

We are looking forward to Cornwall, and possible climbing Rough Tor.

with ref to NZ we are meeting our friends from NZ next w/e, he is British and wife from NZ, they are on a 1 yr contract in the UK. He is a sailor of course, and of great repute.
20/04/2003 at 13:30
Hi Anna, I have just read through some of the messages at the commencement of this thread and I realize that you are Spud in disguise or the other way round!
20/04/2003 at 13:47
I agree with you regarding Heart Monitors. You can listen to your own body as you train and I know I just have to slow down at the appropriate times. Can't see that HMs can replace ones own commonsense and besides are they THAT reliable?
Later on will start a new thread concerning pacing and a different way of judging mile markers.
Yes, its nice having a younger partner maybe,but then as you say you have to wait for them to "mature" for their pension!
Can't remember but are you away. Daft question!
20/04/2003 at 17:23

JJ goes away tomorrow, however, expect he is busy doing last minute watering of all his plants.
20/04/2003 at 17:24
Anna back to you, has your achilles tendon healed now?
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