Over 60s training.

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20/03/2003 at 10:02
JJ I agree with you. I run round a local resevoir each week, I run twice round + a 20 minutes more. It is impossible to know exactly how far it is. There is a sign for the cyclists suggesting that it is 7.2 miles round. I know that is incorrect because I know how fast I run, and I determine the distance to be more like 6.8 miles. This distance is backed up by the local running shop. However, so many people are kidding themselves that they are running 7.2 miles in such and such a time. But they are only cheating on themselves.

LI You have got my imagination going again.
Yes hills certainly help with the legs strength. I find I can run the hill OK but when I get to the top and it levels out as opposed to being downhill that my legs begin to feel tired and it is a bit of a struggle until I recover. I guess that will get better as time goes on. I have tried running the hill a little slower but that does not seem to make a lot of difference.

I have been around a bit in helicoptors. My daughter and myself were rescued by naval helicoptor off the beach on Hayling Island some 18 years ago when we were windsurfing. It was in the very early days of winsurfing, big rigs. We could not get our mast and sail up as there was a huge swell on a sandbank, and meanwhile the tide had changed! My son got back OK and called the coastguard. All very embarassing really. We were winched up and landed on a beach, full of grockles just outside our house!!
It made the newspapers. I don't tell this story very often, and now I am announcing it to the whole world!
20/03/2003 at 10:16
Exhibitionist tendencies.
JJ
20/03/2003 at 13:06
JJ mmm, I try

ceal
20/03/2003 at 20:32
Hi again,
Thanks everybody for the entertainment and advice. I'm avoiding cows, L.I. My training today was done by chasing sheep. Little b.....s.

Hey Ceal, your 16 miler was a sub 9 minutes. Superb. Re. your attitude to the marathon, I think that Henry Ford hit the spot when he said:
`If you think you can do it, you're right.
If you think you can't do it. you're still right.'

I think that also goes for the people who have niggles and aches as an excuse not to run. And the worst excuse of all.....age!

I raced Ospreys at Hayling Island many years ago. What I remember most were the tides!!!

Do persevere with the hill reps everybody. They really are beneficial both in terms of improving speed and lowering the lactic acid threshold. Don't be impatient - just build slowly. Another beauty is that the hill rep session is relatively short (so easier to fit into real life) and need not be timed - blessed relief from that pesky watch.

A 30k race this weekend and I am relying on it as an indication as to what my target time in the FLM should be. If you don't hear from me again you will know that I am gutted and wandering aimlessly around Cornish clifftops. Otherwise I'll speak to you next week.

Byee
21/03/2003 at 09:14
JJ good luck for the half this weekend. I look forward to hearing all about it. I was to be away early next week. Plans changed to the following week. All change for my training plans. A 6 day week this week. So have cut out the speed/hills in favour of just running the miles. Next week will be messed up. But hey I am sure it will all come together in the end and it certainly is not the end of the world.


Pussy, all the best for the 30k race. I am sure we are all waiting to hear from you asap afterwards. Please call in what ever your time. Like I said to Johnny, the FLM is what you have been training towards and is what you will be tapering for. I am of the opinion, rightly or wrongly, that as we mature, we perhaps need a little more tapering than our younger competitors.

Is there anyone out there that can comment on that last sentence.

Are either you Johnny or Pussy being sponsored this year for the FlM?
22/03/2003 at 00:30
Pussy......heres wishing you a purrfect day for your 30k. Is that 18.6 miles then?
JJ....And I extend good luck to you too Johnny. Not that you need luck as you certainly seem to know what to do,before and during!
As for me a good 6 mile plus run today including those testing hills again. Could have gone on longer but the parkgates close at 5 and I didn't fancy running as much as another 7 miles home. The car might have been wheel-less next day.
Off to Yarmouth tomorrow so looking forward to a run in different surroundings again.
22/03/2003 at 00:32
Btw has anyone had trouble logging on to RW? I had to re-submit my e-m and password before being allowed to post on thread.
22/03/2003 at 09:36
I did not have ant problem, L Imp.

Good luck JJ and Pussy!
23/03/2003 at 14:37
Afternoon all. Just to report 1-47-38 for Paddock Wood 1/2m. Tooooooooo hot! very uncomfortable. No wonder I don't race in summer.
JJ
23/03/2003 at 20:28
LI I've had that problem a couple of times before but not recently.
JJ
24/03/2003 at 08:26
JJ I have not doubt you will have more to say on yesterdays half. After a decent taper you will knock minutes off!

Yes wasn't it hot yesterday, I had a problem taking on enough fluids.

I ran 16 miles again yesterday, which was only 6 days since my last 16 miles. Which probably was not very sensible, but next week I have 3 days off (roll on, I say). I ran the distance some 10 minutes slower on purpose. The only trouble is it took 2 and half hours, which is the longest I have ever ran in one go. I did not sleep very well and thus now feel beaten up. My legs feel fine, it's just the rest of me. Although I have to say I feel a little better since I got up. I realise I have ran 45 miles in last 7 days. I foud it difficult to eat yesterday after the run, although I did and felt rough for doing so. I drank as much as I was able to after my run for the rest of the day. My resting pulse (51)is only a couple of beats up today, so that is good news. so I guess what I am feeling is overtiredness, which was self inflicted.
24/03/2003 at 08:31
L imp. I hope you had a good w/e on the coast. Did you have it as hot as we did, or was therea sea breeze. I have never seem so many people at our resevoir before, even on a Bank Holiday.

I had problems on Saturday in getting into RW site, I had to shut my computor down and re boot in order to make a connection. But I wasn't sure if that was my server giving me a hard time!
24/03/2003 at 09:46
JJ It was enjoyable at the time, just afterwards that it wasn't.

Keep chasing the young ladies, I say! At least it wasn't half a second slower!

I have no idea what age weighted tables are. But 1-27 sounds extremely impressive. Tell me more, I like the sound of them.
24/03/2003 at 16:57
JJ age 62yrs 63 in June. Fax no. 01604 402221 This fax number will be disabled sometime tomorrow evening, when we are having broadband installed. to save some funds we are getting rid of our second phone line, which is used for fax mainly.

Thanks Johnny.
24/03/2003 at 20:22
Ceal.
I've only just picked up your message. The relevant docs. are at work . I will fax you from the office tomorrow a.m.

Erratum. For 24 read 34.
25/03/2003 at 10:00
JJ
You just caught me with the fax as I was going out of the door for my recovery run. So I have delayed to take a look. I received a one page fax, is that correct, only you spoke of conversion tables, plural.
Have I done this right? I have just converted my half time of 1:53 to that of 1:27, which sounds stunning. Pity I did not run when i was aged 20 and thereabouts. Too busy having a good time! although I have not looked to see what time youngsters are doing at that distance. club runners I mean.

However, this does not halt the challenge to become a fast successful mature runner.
25/03/2003 at 10:00
I forgot to say thankyou. JJ
26/03/2003 at 18:59
Hi everybody.
I survived the 30k (Yes, L.I. that's 18.67M). Averaged just under 8.5 m.m. (2hrs 38mins) which was faster than my target - so the Cornish cliff have not claimed me and I am still on course for the FLM!
Hey Ceal, I like this business of tapering. I think I will give up running and take up tapering - sounds a lot less energetic. And you 47 miles sounds far to energetic. Don't overdo it, please - just remmber your age.
And JJ, I also like the sound of age-weighted tables. I presume they mean that you can have a better time without actually running any faster. Do I assume that, at 62, I simple multiply my Half M time by a factor of .7842? Does that apply to all distances? And am I only .7842 of my former self in all other departments as well?

Speak to you all soon. Keep running
26/03/2003 at 19:01
Hey, lots of typographical errors (or spelling mistakes) Sorry.
26/03/2003 at 23:50
P.
If you can e-mail me or post a fax number on here I'll send a copy of the table.
Excellent running by the way. I'm surrounded by fast ladies.
JJ
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