Over 60s training.

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09/03/2014 at 21:17

Empty, almost spot on for your race targets. Very disciplined of you to run according to an HR. Please take care of that achilles though.  I'm sure you will.

09/03/2014 at 21:18

Oh no, not again.....

09/03/2014 at 23:02

Empty good racing. You seem to be running well at the moment

10/03/2014 at 07:38

Good morning


Graham - Maybe you should take up painting then you wouldn't feel so bad.


10/03/2014 at 11:40
Good morning,

A good solid 10 miler. Perhaps you went out a tiny tad too fast, but otherwise very steady. I trust the achilles is behaving this morning. Are you able to get Liz outside in the sunshine at all?

I knew you would have been tempted to do some running! Just have confidence in your running and take a weeks rest, with just a few easy 5k's. How is your neck?

Another sunshiny run today, 4.4 miles again, wearing my new shoes. No mud on the main path.
10/03/2014 at 20:06

Ceal, you are most probably right. Achillies OK but won't run until tomorrow, already arranged treatment for Monday (after the 20, just in case).

Yesterday I won a spot prize £15 voucher for gels etc and buy one pair get a second (different ) pair free - which is handy as I need another pair of road shoes and some trail shoes for the holiday.

Unfortunately Liz is still confined to bed and as that won't fit through, even our extra wide, doorways she can only look through the bigger window we had put in in November. Initial spring target is to get the back garden sorted so that she has something decent to look at. We've just hit 4 years now since she was up for any length of time and for the first time some doubts are creeping in as to whether we'll see her "up" again - but we just plough on in the hope that she will. Amazing thing is that she is so upbeat, it's quite remarkable.

Mike T



10/03/2014 at 20:31

Strong running from you, obviously you are coming back to your old self.

Root canal done, not too painful and I had two attractive ladies looking after me so it was as good as these things get.

10.7k recovery done in -2c before my visit to the dentist so hopefully I will be good to go for my tempo run tomorrow morning and I will not miss a step trying to catch Graham.

10/03/2014 at 21:00

MrsJJ and me are going away on Wednesday for a few days while the weather's good. Don't know where yet.

Belated welcome to the thread. Lots of advice and encouragement around when you want it. I started running at about age 55 and I'm now 73. Not doing much running at the moment but I've not yet given up after a lifetime of sport.

I build sections of running into the doodle walking and still do the occasional 3 miles or so. I'm in no rush to make a comeback.

A good solid run. Quite encouraging really.

10/03/2014 at 21:04

Mick, don't worry. I'm already burnt out.

10/03/2014 at 22:10

Hello and welcome, Chris. Like you, I had a very pressured job with long hours of work. Retired 5 years ago and it still feels rather like a long holiday. I have kept a bit of part-time work, though. I turned 70 in January, and have been running since my late 50s, inspired by two of my children initially, and now by the people on this thread! Ceal has not told you as much about herself as she might have, - she's a world record holder. 

TS - loved the photos; wonderful sweeps of crocus - (and all unmolested).

Ceal - I will take note of my foot position next time I run up a hill.  The hill reps that brought on the highest HR (164) were the 0.11 mile ones (after the 4th rep), not the shorter ones which were only about half that distance. 

Aws - beautiful picture; I love those scarlet poppies.

Woke early this morning and as the sun was shining I took a leaf out of Aws' book and ran before breakfast. Though sunny, however, it wasn't shorts-and-short-sleeves weather as there was a cold wind blowing. 

On Saturday I had a fun time marshalling the Rhayader Round the Lakes 20 mile race, - also the 5 mile race which takes place at the same time.

11/03/2014 at 07:31

Good morning

0459 6°C
6.06M; 1:22:13.0; 13:34/M;
1 13:20.3 1.00 13:20 144 149
2 13:36.2 1.00 13:36 141 146
3 14:04.2 1.00 14:04 136 143
4 14:04.9 1.00 14:05 137 143
5 13:37.3 1.00 13:37 137 144
6 12:53.5 1.00 12:53 138 145
7 00:36.1 0.06 10:01 147 149
HR av138 max149

Best of the last 13 at this distance AND I didn't look at the Garmin even once after checking that it was working 80yds out. Two dreaded 14s crept in but it's interesting that the HR dropped at that point then remained low even when that 12 came along.


11/03/2014 at 09:24
Looks good to me.

A good prize to win, it was the icing on the cake!

Good to hear that the hard work has been done on your tooth. I always think that the worst part of root canal work is the time that one has to have one's mouth open for. I dislike that very much.

The thing to think about with the forefoot when running uphill is to push off from the forefoot to the toes, there is a lot more power with that action than just pushing off from the toes. Either short or long hill reps will get the MHR is enough of them are done with very little or no recovery except that of jogging down the hill to start again.

Have a good break wherever you end up going.

No running today, I have my private singing lesson this morning and choir this evening. I have found singing to be similar to running in that one has to train. Also breathing in the correct way is essential to the sound that comes out of one's mouth also to learn to support the sound with one's core muscles. That word again, core.
Edited: 11/03/2014 at 09:25
11/03/2014 at 11:30

good morning

an excellent race - bit ambitious at the start but you never know what might be there - or not!!!
I do hope Liz cracks the whip so you get that garden sorted for her to look out onto - she deserves it!!

Grasmere could be nice at this time of year................ daffodils just coming out

That's why I stay in miles - those new fashioned Km play havoc with performance

Good stuff - and they look like proper HR readings

I will have to sentence you to detention and to re watch that TV programme on the foot whilst you get over your root canal work
Running increases the force generated on the foot by 2.5 times over walking and this is transmitted up the body. Of course a proportion is gathered in muscle and tendons and used as regenerative energy but there is still a lot to be dissipated and the spine, and its shock absorbing discs, do a lot of that.
First order of priority was to get the wound to heal up without tearing along the scar tissue, which is done, and the next was to allow the reshaped disc to regenerate some scar tissue to prevent leakage of the shock absorbing fluid and to allow the nerves and tissue to settle down. Running would have put unnecessary force onto those areas so it is best avoided for now.

As it happens I have an appointment with the therapist this afternoon so we will see what she has to say...........................

Lovely morning here - white frost early on quickly dispersed by the bright sunshine, more miles walked

11/03/2014 at 11:31

I suspect that the crocus will remain unmolested this year by me

11/03/2014 at 17:09

I spent a great deal of my HS career on detention so one more will not make a lot of difference. I do hear you and it does make a lot of sense to be cautious during your rehab. The investment of a few months now will be paid back handsomely if you can get back to running.

I could not agree more especially with that tooth guard thingy in you mouth as well.
I can see once you decide to focus on something you really go for it, are there any trophies to be won in singing?

10.7k done in the warmth of +2c, with a 7k tempo in the middle. Disappointed with my average pace but I held my HR solidly in the zone so happy with that.
Xtraining tomorrow which is good as we have yet another snow storm passing through, where is the spring I have had enough of this.


11/03/2014 at 19:00

Welcome Chris  I'm 49 and been on this thread for 9 years.

JJ - I ran Essex 20 in 3:49:52 and walked the hills. 

11/03/2014 at 21:09

Hi all, thanks for being so welcoming.

Some of you have asked me for a bit of background, so here goes:

Yes, I am a headteacher, who was the clever person who guessed that? I have 2 large primary schools with over 1100 children between them. I specialise on turning schools in difficulty around and these two were in considerable difficulty when I took them over a number of years ago. They are fine now with decent year 6 SATs exam results.

The nature of my work is that it is 24/7 and all consuming much of the time, and to be honest, I am now really looking forward to having some brain space and energy for other things when I retire. A great job but doesn’t make for work/life balance, if there is such a thing.

Running-wise, I started running when I was 37. I had very badly raised blood pressure and nearly ended up in hospital. My mum had had a heart attack at 36 and I panicked in case I was heading the same way. Running is like a magic bullet for my blood pressure, so I continued for several years until I got injured, and then I got injured again and so on..... I just seemed to chase it round and round my body for ever. I didn't understand how to stay injured or how to aid recovery in those days, or until very recently really.

My best half marathon time (GNR), was a gun time of 1hr 56mins, there we no chips in those days, 1991 I think, when I was 39. I probably did the equivalent of a chip time today of just under 1hr 50 mins. I didn’t race again for years, partly because of injury but also when I got injured, work seemed to fill the space for a year or two.

In my 50s, my best half marathon was in Liverpool in 2011 (58), I did it in 2hrs 22mins with an injured leg. My husband said I was being a wimp so I raced. Mmmm!!!! I was unable to run properly again, although had numerous false starts, until early November 2013. My best 10K time was also in early spring 2011, I just missed breaking 1hr by 27secs on a hill course, very annoying.

I have probably struggled to run consistently for more than a couple of months at a time. I started back running this last time at the beginning of Nov 2013 and have had no niggles since then, so 4 healthy months to date. I did Blackpool Half in February in a slow 2hrs 33mins, but it was running into a massive gale. The race winner was 5 mins slower than any other winner in the last 5 yrs, so it was pretty bad. I was also concerned about over doing it too much as it was a training race for London. (Notice all the excuses for being slow LOL)

The following weekend I did a 16 miler, so I’m not doing bad really. I usually breakdown when my long training runs reach about 8 or 9 miles so I am very pleased with things at the moment.

I spent 2011-13 doing loads of flexibility and strength work and started training again for the GNR in early spring 2013, but I continued to have niggles and probably didn’t run more weeks than I did run during the early summer. Then in August 2013, I did my knee in and so missed GNR. I cried, I mean I really cried. I had invested 2 years of time and effort not to mention a fortune paying for a personal trainer.

At that point I knew something was seriously not right. I reviewed what I was doing, did yet more research and decided that if I continued doing what I always done, then I would get what I’d always got. A radical rethink was needed.

In late September 2013 after trying several osteopaths, physios and chiroprators, I found my wonderful chiropractor, Adam. He has straightened my back out, made my spine more mobile, sorted my wonky hips, loosened my stiff feet etc etc and I am now physically much more balanced, flexible and stable. I still see him weekly, in the hope that my muscles will gradually strengthen in the new alignment.

At the same time, I found the Jeff Galloway's training method. Some of you will no doubt groan at this and think it doesn’t count as real running, but his run-walk-run methodology has been a Road to Damascus experience. My training times are very similar to what I used to do but I use running and walking strategically, rather than when exhaustion forces me too. I can now run 20+ miles without injury or overwhelming exhaustion. It has given me back my hobby and for that I am very grateful. I finally made it to a half marathon in Blackpool in Feb and am doing a 23 miler on Saturday as training for London. If it allows me to train more consistently then I will inevitably get fitter. That is my theory anyway.

Sorry this was so long and hope you don’t mind me telling my lengthy story.


Edited: 11/03/2014 at 21:19
11/03/2014 at 21:34


Chris Hi, glad you came  back  Ahhh Headteacher no wonder on the long hours Worthwhile when things  go right  and  must feel great when your  students do really well

I won't  laugh with the  run  walk method  I am a fan  though via  a  different teacher. Ernst Van  Aaken A German doctor  post war and whenever  I've had a  break from running and  coming  back I usually  use this  method to get back to it. And  definitely  when I get back to the longer runs it will be the method I will follow

Today I went out  ran  2.33 miles  short run  didn't run yesterday as I felt I needed a rest after Sunday No work tonight a nights holiday but  hope to do something  of  length tomorrow

11/03/2014 at 22:26

Chris - very interesting resumé. Go to the top of the class.

I started running when I was 68 and I'm a little older now. I've never been fast, as you must have noticed from the reports I submit just to show I'm not slacking, and I was advised that entering races would improve my running but I got fed-up with always coming last and my wife would get bored waiting for me so I don't do that any more. I just run for fitness and accord with your remark about running helping to control your blood pressure as I had the same problem at first.


11/03/2014 at 22:27

Now that's fortuitous - or did I plan it?

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