Overdone it?

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18/03/2014 at 11:00

The dreaded lurgy has been keeping a low profile for a couple of weeks but my resting heart rate never got back down to normal so I knew it was still lurking. It's now resurfaced as a nasty, chesty cough . Had M off and it's going to be T off as well, at least.  Want it to F off smartish! 

Putting a positive spin on things: if all my recent races were to some extent virus-affected, I'm looking forward to running some when I'm healthy .

How are your bugs, muddy and skinny?  Hope they don't linger too long. 

Good luck to everyone else in staying fit and avoiding ailments, especially those who have invested so much time and effort into marathon training.  Nutters!

18/03/2014 at 11:45

Pete - Bob's surmise the other day was accurate: I think Elvis has left the building. I had a decent sortie on Sunday night where aerobically I felt fantastic and not at all sluggish on very fresh legs. I will try to test things out further in the club session tonight and see how the recovery from that goes. I hope your lurgy does one as soon as possible. I was discussing with a mate about the possibility of it being related to over training - said mate is training for a swimming event and finds himself going down with viruses as the training kicks in. We concluded that we need to pay a lot of attention to rest and diet.

Lit - I never noticed nuffink.

Edited: 18/03/2014 at 11:51
18/03/2014 at 21:41

Pete - hope the lurgy doesn't hang around long.

Muddy - Glad you're better in advance of the HM on Sunday. You still aiming for 1:27 dead?

Bob - looks like a decent plan for the summer, although I notice the corn dolly 7 is missing from your schedule.

More running round the cricket pitch for me tonight, managed to avoid any dog interruptions this time but the bloody wind was a right pain.


18/03/2014 at 21:50

Off to Zurich (airport) tomorrow for Thursday meeting before flying back Friday.

Then got weekend in Wilmslow going to Lyme Park and probably Sunday shopping at Cheshire Oaks although I believe there is a HM there so may go and watch that instead and let the girls go shopping unrestricted by my boredom.

The worse the weather, the less dogs there tend to be Tommy - I don't think the dogs are that bothered by the weather, its the owners.

Good luck on Sunday Muddy - 1:27 and not a second less will be perfect for Jantastic remember! 

Good luck to anyone else racing too.

Cheers, Skinny



18/03/2014 at 22:01

Muddy, what half you doing??

I'm on my second cold in six weeks, the previous one lasting four weeks. I was once told that runners are far more likely to pick up bugs as they are out and about more and are breathing circa 10 times more than a non runner so highly enhanced chance of taking something in. 

18/03/2014 at 22:05

Have fun in Zurich Skinny - enjoy the rösti. If you do go to Cheshire Oaks there is an Asics store which has some cheap gear if you need anything?


18/03/2014 at 22:28
Tommy - I am wondering about that aim. It fits in with my 5km time. Maybe Skinny's prediction machine can help me out on the basis of tonight's club session. He got it right last time out from similar info ...

Apparently we were supposed to do 2 or 3 x 1.7m(with 3 mins recovery @ 5k pace). It turned out more like hmp for me as I took on 3 reps for an average of around 6:36 min/mile. It was very up and down with a total ascent of ~700 ft over those reps and a bit of wind to contend with, so quite a hard workout all told. I'd seen similar routines in some half marathon plans for taper week so decided to give it a good go rather than hold back.
18/03/2014 at 22:29
DT - Liverpool BTR.

I guess you don't buy the overtraining theory. When the little funster gets ill I am guaranteed to get it. The missus escapes most of the time. Only one of us is running 30+ miles per week
Edited: 18/03/2014 at 22:40
18/03/2014 at 22:47

Ah yes, sorry you did say that.

I have two, the youngest is currently streaming. Oddly I've been hit again and the wife's escaped! Yeah I'm quite sure its a mix of the exposure you get ie kids, big air con office, together with the battering we give our bodies. 

18/03/2014 at 22:48

I have not had a cold for at least 5 years. I also try to avoid spending any time near small children. I run 60+ miles a week.

18/03/2014 at 22:55
One of the ladies at the club was saying something similar. Something like 15 years of not getting ill ! I admit quite freely that my diet and rest(sleep) could be improved.
18/03/2014 at 22:56

I do eat quite a lot of broccoli. That might help.

18/03/2014 at 23:00

The first limb to getting multiple illness has to be the exposure. I had not been physically sick for something like 15 years. Within 12 months of my son starting pre school I had three vomiting bugs in 12 months.

Saying that though I started running to the level I'm running at now last May. This is my third cold in that 10 months. Prior to that I had gone two years. 

18/03/2014 at 23:02
Yes, I get plenty of that, as it's one of the few vegs the little funster eats. I think where things slip is the rushed lunches at work and grabbing a quick breakfast in the morning melee.
18/03/2014 at 23:10
DT - Yeah exactly the same happened to me, within weeks of him starting nursery. Then factor in time off work to handle the illness as they are excluded , and the strain of catching up with things, and then on top of that getting sick in the process. Lot of juggling required to fit in the running around that.
18/03/2014 at 23:21

When you put it like that, it makes me think there should be an element to the wava scoring that takes account of the age of your children also

19/03/2014 at 08:05
Daughter has a 40degree fever today and McF was up all night with a rasping cough. I'm going to Glasgow today and the plane will no doubt be full of germs.
...But I'm not I'll yet.
Muddy - another monster session with the club. Did anyone manage to do that at 5k pace? I would think threshold pace would be more appropriate, or hmp, like you, for hm prep.
I did 8 at my revised and hopefully realistic MP. I've been using a pace based my hm time until Sunday, but decided for the next couple of weeks to get used to my goal race pace. Hip was a little bit niggly from the start and its a bit sore today so I think I'll start winding down now see if it clears up.
Last night was the first trial of a phone app called runzi which records running cadence. It confirmed my counting with a fairly consistent 159-162. I think I'll reintroduce some drills etc post Mara to try to increase that a bit.
19/03/2014 at 08:25

Funster - another beast of a session for you, particularly if the recoveries were at 5k pace . Will be interesting to see how you get on at the weekend as your training tends to be more intervals/reps rather than longer tempo/threshold sessions which are part of more traditional HM training programs (from what I can remember of what you post training wise).

Lou - 8 at MP is a good session, hope the hip niggle clears up.

19/03/2014 at 09:18

Good to see some race entries going in. Just a shame i live so far from you lot and haven't a clue about the courses you're discussing I was thinking about Whitstable 10k which is 4 weeks after Brighton. Won't be a great deal of specific training for that, if any, but may be worth having a blast to eek out some of the marathon fitness.

Lou - Good session. Come on then, spill the beans .....

muddy - a good one from you as well, nice pace and a fair bit of climb. Good luck for your HM.

Skinny - Chesire Oaks eh ! I have been that far north before, nice place. We have friends in Halebank which is near Widnes. Anywhere near you ? Hope you're resting up well ( apart from the international jet setting, of course )


Final proper session here this morning was my 3rd BAC session which i set at 21mins @ MP, 4 x 5 mins at around HMP/Threshold ( off 2mins ) , then a final 21 mins of MP. 3 mins before and after the reps.

3.07M @ 6.51


3.1M @ ave 6:26 ( 4x5 mins off 2 mins )

3 mins

3.08M @ 6:50

Total 12.5M inc w/u, recoveries, c/d


Amazing how easy the first 2.5M of that last MP block felt after the reps. McMillan predicts 6:48 off my HM time and i'm having a bit of a battle with the CHIMP on this at the moment. He reckons McMillan is talking bollocks and i'll die on my arse


19/03/2014 at 09:30

I suppose the question is how accurate has McMillan been with previous half to full marathon conversions?

Lou - well done, and what mace said.

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