Overdone it?

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13/09/2013 at 11:43

Skinny - I haven't used it. It's just in the list of paces. 

Edited: 13/09/2013 at 11:49
13/09/2013 at 11:50

Skinny - Yes, she used to run (not competitively though) before the young 'un was born, as I used to sit lazing on the sofa with my ample belly and wonder why she bothered! She fell out of the habit until I changed my diet and exercise habits last year, and has slowy got drawn back into it. The little 'uns still too young for us to run together at the moment, otherwise that sounds a good strategy for keeping the pace down - she's doing a similar pace to your wife - between 10:00 and 10:30 miles.

P.S. Was that banana suit your only running 'kit' previously then? 

Lit - 16 miles? Tasty. All at Long Run pace or anything quicker to twist the knife?

13/09/2013 at 11:57

Just at normal easy pace, but actually easy this time rather than a bit too fast by mistake. Or at least not taking-the-piss fast.

13/09/2013 at 12:03

Heh. Reading between the lines paints a nice picture of some of the conversations that go on between you lot with the feedback you get back from training runs!

13/09/2013 at 12:24

Bob - not at all. I'm just aware that I will only have myself to blame if I'm knackered after Sunday's run. 

13/09/2013 at 12:24

Nothing but praise if you hit the paces - kind/encouraging words if you don't manage the paces at all - cautionary words with a slightly sinister undertone if you go faster than the paces (particularly early in a 12 week training block) - slightly sarcastic in a you should know better style if you beat the pace on first interval and then miss on the later intervals (you soon learn not to do this though!).

The final one feels like the ultimate sin although I've never reported back with a 'couldn't be arsed to run tonight' or ' did a couple of miles and then had a walk and a couple of ciggies' - perhaps I should try it and see what happens.  

13/09/2013 at 12:38

Bob - My wife has run for quite a few years (much longer than I overall), but this has been broken up by periods of pregancy and lazyness. Our kids are too young to be left alone so rarely get the chance to train together.  We have occasionally called in the services of grandparants and gone for a long run together and even hired a babysitter so we could both do a race.  On the whole its good but I think the logistics will be tricky when we are both trying to knock out 50mpw of marathon training next year.

Going back to 'Steady Pace' McMillian puts mine at 6:45-7:00, which is broadly HMP-MP.  To fast to be running 15 miles so I suspect definitions may vary.

13/09/2013 at 13:52

The variation in terms is probably partly because McMillan doesn't name his training paces after race paces. Still wouldn't want to run for 90 mins at MP though, which is what the slower & longer end of his 'steady state run' would be. The little definition you get if you click on it reckons this should be 'easy to medium' effort. Though he may also have a different definition of 'easy' to me too!

13/09/2013 at 16:09

Lit/Skinny - Good stuff. 

Lit - Agreed about McMillan's 'Steady' pace. I can see that it would be Easy to Medium effort over 25 mins at one end of the range, but 90 mins at the other end of the range most certainly would not!

Lou - Yes, good luck with that! Will involve some late nights and early mornings pounding out the miles I would think. It's a hard enough balance for us at the moment with me getting back up towards 20 miles per week, and my wife's 10-15! The light nights and hot afternoons of the summer have meant I got out of the habit of running from work at lunchtimes. Think I'll have to revert to that a couple of times per week to keep things going as my mileage (hopefully) begins to nudge back up to pre-injury levels.

Edited: 13/09/2013 at 16:10
14/09/2013 at 18:46

Skinny - good luck in the GNR tomorrow

14/09/2013 at 18:57

Yeah, good luck Skinny with sticking to the sensible pacing plan. 

14/09/2013 at 23:37

Thanks both - off to bed now - had a bit of a sh1t day incl not doing my pre race day run with strides - hopefully as its not a race that won't make too much of a difference.

Weather forecast looks like a cracker!!

15/09/2013 at 06:44
Good luck Skinny
15/09/2013 at 08:49

Have a good one Skinny. 

15/09/2013 at 08:51

I know he's not wearing the banana suit... but that's what I'm picturing.

15/09/2013 at 09:16

Good luck and don't forget your wellies.


15/09/2013 at 15:35

Wind assisted 1:32:30 - had a bit of a stressful pre race but kept paces sensibleish - lots to tell but off to my dad's for his 80th so will have to wait till tomorrow.

Cheers, Skinny

15/09/2013 at 15:41

Haha, 'sensibleish'. 

15/09/2013 at 21:47

Nice work, Skinny. Particularly if you ran it as 'easily' as you were meant to. 

Hope the 80th bash was also a success.

Look forward to the race report.

Bit under the weather myself, and fell short of my target of getting under 20:00 at Rushcliffe yesterday - 20:11. More details on the MG thread. More positively, the tendon has come through the rigours yesterday and another 5 miles or so today unscathed, so optimistic I can crank the mileage up another notch this week.

P.S. How was the 16 miler, Lit?

Edited: 15/09/2013 at 21:48
15/09/2013 at 22:13

Under the weather in more ways than one, presumably, as it was quite windy this morning.

16 miler was fine, though I got a horrific stitch at about 14.5 miles and had to stop and stretch properly before last mile. Half a mile of agonising side pain did make the overall average pace for the run come out looking sensible, though, at 8:05. I saw quite a few other runners out I recognised from local clubs, including yours, Bob, probably also training for Robin Hood. Also, oddly, some man was following me for a good few miles in the middle. Odd just because he stayed about 15 paces behind but there'd been no turning just before he appeared so he must have caught up but didn't overtake, then there was no obvious turning off at the point where I lost him. Perhaps he was just using my metronomic pacing as a tempo run or something.

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