P + D training for VLM 2013

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13/02/2013 at 23:29

Did the 15 miler this evening.  Garmin now gives weather reports for your runs.  1 degree but felt like -3 because of the wind chill.  Wind and rain.

13/02/2013 at 23:33
A 13 mile MLR done tonight. It was a relief that the sleet followed by snow followed by rain forecast on the BBC all held off. However, like some of the rest of you, I was quite tired. I suppose I did do 20 on Sunday and had done a full day's work before the run tonight. Looking back at my previous mara schedules, they were quite a bit lighter on the miles!
14/02/2013 at 08:15

Chris, Surrey and Go Caz well done on your MLR

7 miles easy/steady in the bank at Dark O'clock this morning .

14/02/2013 at 08:44

Morning all, 6 miles recovery completed this morning, treadmill again, at 5.20am, lovely and gentle once more on the legs.

HeOw, that's not a bad 26.2 training run, slowed a bit over the last few miles but pretty good splits.

NP that is superb organisation and a correct definition of recovery, way outside the defined P&D parameters.  Good to get the miles in early.

SR I noticed the temperature when I downloaded my Garmin, I thought it must have been an advert because it wasn't the temperature I ran at!

Good running with those late night MLRs, I think more difficult than the other end of the day, Lit that is also a classy touch of organisation to get some carbs and protein back in you.


14/02/2013 at 09:42

Morning all

Well I survived the 14 miles last night. It actually wasn't quite as bad as I expected.  Thankfully it had stopped snowing so there was only a cm or so and easy enough to run on. It was blowing a gale but it must have been blowing in a slightly different direction to normal as it was only a headwind for a short time on each lap.   Finished at 9:30 last night and managed to swallow a chicken sandwich before bed.  Up at 5:30 this morning and in the gym at 6:30 so 6 miles recovery done on the treadmill. I could probably have done it outside with hindsight, but I expected the temp to drop further and everything to be icy.

NP - loving the recovery plans

NN - my OH has a similar problem with his sleeping patterns. He did shifts for about 20 years and now works 9-5. He really struggles with going to bed at a sensible time. At least the pilates will get easier with time

HeOw - Did you enter the Manchester marathon once you realised you could actually do it?

Lit - I've thought about doing that a couple of times as I've run past the Chinese takeaway. Did you enjoy it?


14/02/2013 at 10:10

Morning...well done everybody who managed to get out there yesterday. Weather wise should be better for running the next few days. 6 recovery miles for me today. Tonight I'm off to London, coming back Saturday or Sunday. Am staying central so will need to work out my 13mile and 7mile runs for the next few days. Sunday's long run might have to be delayed till Monday as Saturday am meeting an old friends which often means lots of beer.

14/02/2013 at 10:20

Well done to all on the MLRs - wasnt pleasent last night - was at a family 60th as DD so all mexicaned out - (Panama Hatties) . Heow -do you run the Green Route walkway that takes you to C Quay? Pedestrian/cycle only - starts at Mickle Trafford and is a very flat 13 miles or so I think. Great for LSRs.

A nice little mlr jaunt for me now in ths dry and sunshine for once!

14/02/2013 at 10:21

x post - 15w - enjoy the beer  

14/02/2013 at 10:47

Enjoy London 15W - I used to love strolling along the embankment years ago, especially at night with it all lit up. Could be a good option for a couple of runs (with added visual interest). It sure beats the industrial estates I'm having to run around at the moment!

In other news, I'm starting to get slightly concerned as my thigh muscles seem to be very painful today. Can't really tell how bad it is as Im stuck at a desk for the day, but fingers crossed its nothing serious. Serves me right for running my recovery too fast on Tuesday - never again I promise runnning gods!
14/02/2013 at 11:39

Chris - might it be doms? Hope its shortlived whatever it is.

14/02/2013 at 11:40

Chris - RICE!

14/02/2013 at 11:46

Chris - and stretching! (NP will be along in a minute to recommend a cold bath)

14/02/2013 at 12:01

I have chillblains on my face this morning from last night's run.  Well done everyone getting out there - we are a committed bunch (well maybe we need to BE committed...) 

Mennania - I have ran that route once but not all the way to Connah's Quay - I found it a bit lonely to be honest. I like to be beeped at by perverts you see.  Especially Travellers in Transit Vans.   Are you feeling ready for Sunday?  I am chomping at the bit I am!  I have kept pace very relaxed this week, I looked back on some of my previous **cough** HM tapers and bloody hell, I don't know the meaning of the word, I seem to get a surge the week of a HM and train too hard - no wonder I never show my true potential.  I am praying I can really do it justice Sun (well in a HeOw sense, I won't be beating you or Craig, put it that way!) 

JF50 - I would show you the Manchester Marathon splits but I am too embarrassed - they are pretty horrendous.  Went from 8:40m/m to 10:40m/m at the end.  I finished 1 second faster than my actual training 26.2 - bloody uncanny!  Learned hard way I suppose.  

Fiona - pretty much yes. My best friend and I just started upping distance after doing a few HMs and it kind of became a bit of a laugh really.  Then she got injured on our 24 miler and weren't laughing any more.   I found endurance running hard at the start, it was something that didn't come naturally to me (long runs were a killer over the winter, it was obviously undiagnosed asthma) and then once I had done the 26.2 I knew I had it in me, if I could run that on my own, I could do it on race day no problem so entered.  Just didn't account for the dreadful Manchester weather!  I am lucky that I didn't get injured but according to heart rate, 81% of max was probably not too bad for my first venture doing that distance. On the day of Manchester though, I started too fast, my Garmin went crazy because of the wet weather and couldn't read it and the last few miles were brutal. I probably would have got a sub 4 rather than a 4:06 had I been luckier. 

 Chris - it is probably severe DOMS. Please be careful with your paces, you want to get there in one piece - no-one gives a medal to the winner of a two man recovery jog!


Edited: 14/02/2013 at 12:02
14/02/2013 at 12:04

Enjoy London 15W and am I hearing myself correctly... YOU ARE THINKING OF F*CKING UP THE PLAN BY ONE DAY?! 

14/02/2013 at 12:51

Easy recovery for me later before work..

SR Fiona and Caz well done more MLRs completed by P&D followers yesterday !!

NP and JF50  as usual have beaten the rest of us to get their sessions done

15W have fun..and not too much beer !!

Lit my sides and ribs are hurting !! guess the Pilate's must be working !!

Chris I got no sympathy !! running a 7 mile  recovery run is not funny big or clever ! for one thing where in the book does it say to run 7 mile recovery runs at any pace let alone fast ??.NOWHERE !!  tut

Mennania lucky for you the weather is kinder today hope you have a good run

Heow I wish I knew back when I was your age what I know now about tapering/recovery/nutrition..at least you have a wise old bird (me ) telling where you have/are going wrong..its late for me to gain much myself, but at least I aint getting slower...I too used to run half marathon distance at full pelt just a few days before a race, just to make sure I could !!...Now I know I would be better sat on my bum for 10 days 

14/02/2013 at 12:54

Oh yes..I got my saucony progrid kinvaras today !! I cannot believe how light they are..they are like slippers ...and I feel as light as a fairy...

Edited: 14/02/2013 at 12:59
14/02/2013 at 13:26
HeOw wrote (see)

Enjoy London 15W and am I hearing myself correctly... YOU ARE THINKING OF F*CKING UP THE PLAN BY ONE DAY?! 

Yes, you heard me right. It's giving me sleepless nights. I will probably end up running with a hangover from hell and puking everywhere.

14/02/2013 at 13:36

Me again!

NN - how much room is there in the toe box of those Kinvara's? I've been taking on board people's comments about wearing lighter weight shoes for racing but I have bunions on both feet and need wider than average shoes.

14/02/2013 at 13:38

 acp Well I have wide feet and there seems plenty of room plus they are not so hard as the asics 2160s which I wear !

14/02/2013 at 13:48

Thanks NN! I'll go back to just being a lurker (is there such a word?!) now! I'm learning loads by the way reading all your comments - maybe finding out a bit too much information regarding bodily functions though....!

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