P + D training for VLM 2013

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13/03/2013 at 21:16

Did the 15 miler.  Still quite cold at 4 degrees, feels like 1 after wind chill.

13/03/2013 at 23:44
Heow good to see you back running. Hope it's nothing serious Mennania and is quick to recover. Can't see the lack of vo2 making any real difference at this stage.
SR the cold is still a pain in the arse! But luckily for me the wind had at least eased off near me.

No idea what is going on, but just had a great 15 miler @ 7.00 pace bang on. Went out easy, got to 7 min pace for the middle miles and manage 6.40,s or better for the last few miles. Never had a mid week run like it and I honestly didn't feel like I was over doing it at any stage. Absolutely no idea what's happening though. Peaking too soon no doubt. I wish I could wrap myself up in cotton wool and fast forward 5 weeks now!
Edited: 13/03/2013 at 23:45
14/03/2013 at 08:20

Chris - you'll be up there with the Kenyans I reckon.

Double day today for me. I find the double days a bit of a pain in the bum to be honest, arranging with work/family/dog two times when I have to leave them...and obviously they all struggle without me.

Still don't know what I'm doing about Wilmslow half and what pace to run it at. I'll probably end up on a compromise as I am usually wrecked with DOMS after a race.

14/03/2013 at 08:38

That's the main reason I ditched the double days 15W. That and I hate mornings and couldnt face dragging myself out of bed before work to do a recovery run. Just the 6 mile recovery tonight for me. Desperately hoping I can carry on feeling like I am for 5/6 more weeks. Its funny because 2 weeks ago I was knackered and couldn't get near to any sort of decent training pace. This marathon training is weird!

14/03/2013 at 09:00

Chris it is indeed weird, my legs feel absolutely knackered this week, but I had a good 15 miler yesterday on what felt like legs made of lead ..I knocked 6 mins off my hilly 15 miler compared to the last time I did this route weeks ago.

Heow nice to see you running, although as you found out a hard spinning class isnt really a good idea before a tempo run..

No double for me today as I have just got in bed after a night shift, I will just do the 6 recovery later .

Men hope you recover soon you must have devastated not to do the VO2 max session 

Lit fingers crossed the twinge is nothing serious


Edited: 14/03/2013 at 09:04
14/03/2013 at 09:45

Out early again, 5am, for a 12 mile MLR.  So frosty in East Anglia this morning, the whitest I have seen the roads I think this winter. Not too bad underfoot though, actually felt almost sticky on the really white stuff.

Men hope that heals quick and Lit hopefully just one of those twinges we all shudder at when we feel them.

Great 15 miler Chris

14/03/2013 at 10:09
Great run again Chris! and JF well done on getting out early again for your run, that takes dedication.

NN, you must be getting a lot fitter to put in a run like that even though you are tired, well done.

I think I'm going to scrap one of the runs today, probably just do the 6 miles later, I can still feel my Achilles, just bought an ice pack so I can heat it before I run and ice it after.

I don't feel comfortable training with niggles so I'm just hoping it doesn't get any worse, hope all the other sick notes are feeling better this morning.
14/03/2013 at 11:33

Thanks for all your really nice words of encouragement. I'm still bouncing around like a kid at the moment. As well as being nervous about everything needed to be done before Nov, but hey ho.

With regard to running, I did an 11mile run with 7mi at half marathon pace on Tuesday after work. Given a sub4 marathon target, my half marathon pace shoudl be about 8:30, but as my garmin battery died just as I was trying to locate satellites, I had to run on feel, and then calcualte the distance afterwards on mapmyrun (timed using my phone). No surprise i went out too fast, and averaged 8:08 min/miles for the 7 miles. I don't suppose it'll kill me to have run it a bit faster, but perhaps it'll mean the 12miles this evening will feel a bit tougher, we'll see.

I'm impressed with the timing of your runs, getting up before dawn, and running in between night shifts, very inspiring. I'm basically a sloth and will look for the least painful way to do most things, I guess i'll soon have that shaken out of me :-/


14/03/2013 at 19:20

15 miles for me tonight, cold, wet & windy and a hilly route, took my dog as I often do on my midweek runs, averaged a very comfortable 7:40, think it made sense after yesterdays Vo2 intervals.

14/03/2013 at 20:45
Craig, I reckon your dog must be in better shape than me at the moment!
15/03/2013 at 08:15

Craig - what sort've dog have you got?

Just took my puppy out for his first walk...and did my first poop pick up with a bag. All fairly successful.

15/03/2013 at 08:30

15W, exciting times with that puppy and the poop bags!

Craig your dog has good pace, better than me

With another long working shift tomorrow I shifted my 5 mile recovery to this morning, on the treadmill by 5.20am. Easy stuff.

Leaves me the Colchester HM on Sunday, still not made my mind up on pushing it or using it as an MP run, will probably decide on the line and reassess at about mile 8

15/03/2013 at 09:15

JF50 - I'm now thinking for wilmslow half the following week I will run the first two 3rds at MP pace...and then speed up and run last 3rd faster...nearer LT pace. That's the idea anyway.

15/03/2013 at 09:23

15w, strange isn't it, making decisions on what pace to run a HM when the normal thought would be to just go out and blast it!

15/03/2013 at 09:57
15W - I have a husky and she just loves to run, got the running belt and proper harness. On the verge of getting another, love the breed.
15/03/2013 at 10:06

Cool - beautiful dog (I'm such a doggy person these days...even found myself watching crufts for chrissake). Does she pull you along?! What is furthest you have taken her for a run? I assume they must have a lot of stamina.

15/03/2013 at 10:07

JF50 - yes, it is. Sometime I worry too much. I'm just nervous of knackering myself.

15/03/2013 at 12:09

Alright gang, 10 (instead of 12) last night at 7.20mm - mainly due to that being the pace that caused me least problems, but I had to bin the end of the run and get the missus to pick me up as the pain was down my groin. Bining tonights recovery and most likely tomorrows 18 with 14 at MP. Will have to find space for the latter run by bumping my VO2 sessions I guess. Pain in the bloody neck this is.

15/03/2013 at 13:51

She tends to run just slightly ahead doesn't pull much to be fair except if she sees any animals, ok with dogs, its pheasants, ducks & the odd fox she goes wild for.  She has been on a few 18 mile runs with me and could quite easily go on, they are bred for endurance, she just does'nt  seem to tire at all.  I don't take her all the time just have to watch her legs on the hard surfaces all the time so I will also take her up the hills on a few trails.  Great running partner to be honest.

15/03/2013 at 14:06

Men - doesn't sound good - hope you recover speedily.

12 miles this lunchtime in this glorious spring weather we're having.

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