P + D training for VLM 2013

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23/03/2013 at 14:15

AG - nice race report, and excellent work on the massive PB. I had a quick scout round for people I thought might be you then realised I didn't have much to go on, especially as everyone was wearing hats and hair colour was not on show. Also figured I might get some funny looks walking up to people asking if they were 'Agent Ginger'. I should have just told you I was wearing a bright orange gore jacket.

Twas my first time at 10k so I got myself an automatic PB of 38.14. Very happy with that as it seems to tally up with scraping under 3 hours on the online predictors. I found the race a tough old slog though, 10k seems to be a particularly unpleasant distance to race. The pace doesn't feel much different to 5k but you have to go for twice as long! Looking at my splits it looks like I went off a little to fast (first mile 5.59 compared to average of 6.09).

Sorry to hear some of you have been unable to race or train due to weather.

Edited: 23/03/2013 at 14:24
23/03/2013 at 15:01

AG well done on the PB.

Well done to everyone else who has managed to get any running done today. Not really looking forward to wilmslow half tomorrow mainly as could be lots of hanging round before and after race freezing my cockles off.

23/03/2013 at 17:03

AG  fabulous well done indeed,

I cant believe how bad some of you have had the weather,its been pretty dan cold and wet here but now snow, today is dry and very cold,

No 10k race for me as in the middle of shifts so I decided when I woke at 2 to drive to our clubs 10k race route and run that as fast as I could, and I got a PB 46.40 !! not an all time pb but the fastest I have gone over 10k in about 10 years I HATE 10k and it was the first distance to suffer once I reached 40 years, pleased but also disappointed it wasn't a real race as I could have gone 45.** I am sure under race conditions.

Hope not too any of your race are cancelled good luck to those who are racing 

Edited: 23/03/2013 at 17:03
23/03/2013 at 17:16

Well done AG and Al Runs  new Pbs both! 

Nice run too NN 

The Ironbridge half is cancelled so I will be doing my long run solo, I was only using it as a training run anyway so now I will probably run later in the day hoping it might warm up a bit by about lunchtime (I can but hope). 

Good luck to those doing Wimslow tomorrow.

23/03/2013 at 17:25

AL sorry I missed your report...well done thats an awesome time

Pottermiss how disappointing  at least you get a bit of I lie in 

23/03/2013 at 18:28
Well done Al and AG on the pbs! I hope this streak of smashing pbs continues till next month.

Well done NN and everyone else that has got out today.

My plan was 8 with 4 @mp but I really struggled. Ended doing 1 mile at mp and just felt too tired/cold and couldn't be arsed today. I managed 7 in total, just glad I did something.

I don't know about everyone else but I'm feeling ready to start tapering now, getting a bit sick of training and feeling knackered.
Don't think this weather helps either!
23/03/2013 at 18:38

Mark I had a CBA yesterday and did sweet FA so you did better than I did on your CBA day , its been a long hard winter, the weather has been abysmal and yes I am sick of it too,  we are nearly there, this thread has been a great help and we have kept each other going, I have done sessions I would have skipped (the mp 14 for example) I would have skipped it and just done a long run, but having seen how important it was and it was a much talked about session on here that I realised it had to be done,

Edited: 23/03/2013 at 18:43
23/03/2013 at 19:20
Al Runs great 10k in the bank and looking good for that sub 3.
NN fantastic running and looking good as well for London.
Mark we all get days like that during the build up it will pass you just need to rest.
Good luck to anyone who's race is still on.
20/22 tomorrow
23/03/2013 at 19:20

Nooooooo... don't keep saying how important that session was! I still haven't got round to it. 

23/03/2013 at 19:30

NightNurse - hang on, let me get this right...  You got up at 2AM and went and did a 10k PB on your own, in the middle of the frigging night?!    Bloody hell mate!

Men - I am glad I moved from near Ruabon, I used to dread the winters.  We lived on an old estate called Wynnstay, we couldn't get out of it if weather was atrocious.  Err, I am on Facebook but I am a self obsessed narcissist so thats okay.   

I will pace you NoPain, you will get a personal worst but I am sure we will have some laughs. 

Al and AG - well done on the PBs!  Brilliiant stuff.

Fiona - do you run to parkrun and then back?  Do you race parkrun or just run it easy?

I tested foot last night on 5k recovery run on the roads.  Not a niggle, it felt normal again.  I think I will race Wilmslow tomorrow and to be honest, the thought of doing 5 miles before hand as well as race, in minus degrees and wind, fills me with dread.  I can do my 18 with 14 MRP next week as I am not sure I can fit tune up race in (Salford 10k) so I can't see how racing tomorrow will be a bad thing.  Also, I would have thought the point of the 18 with 14 is you do it all at once, not with 2 hours in between?  I doubt I will be faster than Wrexham, the weather and course isn't as comfortable. I am hopefully rescuing Craig from his snow in, I will drive to one of the main roads which are clear near him and pick him up and hopefully another one of our friends (she is trying to find a number, she is a fellow club runner with Craig) up so they can do it.  You have to help each other out in times of life or death! (i.e. racing or not!).  15W - do you have a profile of elevation of Wilmslow at all? 

23/03/2013 at 20:36


Few hills at the end HeOw - but with that easterly wind going to feel like climbing Everest. I've got a bad feeling about tomorrow.

What time you planning arriving in Wilmslow HeOw? Could be traffic jams.

23/03/2013 at 20:36

Saying that I think a lot of people won't turn up. Only about 1/2 entrants turned up for the Manchester marathon last year (I think).


23/03/2013 at 20:50

...and what you planning on wearing? gloves are a must of course, but what about layers? Not sure whether to wear one or two layers...and whether to have the outside layer a windproof. It's not just the cold temperature, it's that wind. Poor old anxious 15W.

23/03/2013 at 20:53

It looks a good course profile, looking forward to it now i'm going, thanks to HeOw, making the trip to Wales to pick me & a clubmate up.  Nice one.

23/03/2013 at 20:53

15W, rather you than me, but have you got a sleeveless windproof gilet? That'd keep the wind off your chest without you overheating as you warm up.

HeOw, glad the foot is better and that you're rescuing Craig. I would think any benefit of doing an extra 5 miles beforehand not even as a warm-up would be negligeable, and had assumed that the 18 with 14 at mp thing was to allow for a warm-up and cool-down rather than to make you do extra miles anyway.

23/03/2013 at 20:58

Heow no you idiot ...I worked a night shift slept the morning away then got up at 2pm...FFS lol..I know I am mad but not that mad..


23/03/2013 at 21:00

Come to think of it, since nobody seems to think the 14 mile mp session is that beneficial, I guess it won't matter that I've skipped it...

23/03/2013 at 21:02

Lit- you haven't missed the 14mi mp session have you?

23/03/2013 at 21:05

Not beneficial !!!!!!!!  it bloody well better be, I suffered all sodding week after that, only got me legs back today !!!

Stop being a lazy little lit

Edited: 23/03/2013 at 21:05
23/03/2013 at 21:05

Wah! My sub-3.15 attempt is DOOMED.

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