P + D training for VLM 2013

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16/01/2013 at 20:37
Did the 14 miler. Was sub zero and there were a few frozen puddles around but no real hazards.
16/01/2013 at 20:42

Doing the marathon at 9 mph is pretty good. Gives you a predicted time of 2 hours 55 minutes. Would put you intone top 2to3 percent of marathon runners.
16/01/2013 at 21:17

Very cold and icy here today, though some of the pavements were just about clear enough by this evening for a slightly shorter-than-planned club run. Must have been the balmy -2 degree temperatures we got up to mid-afternoon. I usually go for a run by myself first to bump up the mileage, but I thought running by myself in the dark with a headtorch AND ice was probably going too far, so I finally cracked and joined the gym the club meets at. Did about 3.5 on the treadmill, 6 outside with the club, then another 4.5 on the treadmill to get me up to 14. Treadmill felt like much harder work, probably because it was so hot in there. But maybe dripping sweat is more socially acceptable than a dripping nose?

16/01/2013 at 21:36


Very cold here but not too icy to run..

Mennania.....impressive pace.. .you are lucky to have an understanding wife !!..I can imagine the look on her face ...as you ran past the car..us runners do take a lot of understanding..we runners are a breed apart... who the hell else does this for fun?? I was thinking tonight...when can we taper ??? lol...but even then we will be moaning that we are feeling fat an sluggish..

Literatin great combination there  at least you got the 14 done..I had the dripping nose thing going on I ran 7 on my own then 7 with club..who said they would 9 min mile !!! bit quick towards the end ...as all club runs turned into a race..14 in 2.05

9.32...9.30...9.29...9.30...9 10 ..9.13...8.55..8.54..8.38..8.57...

Edited: 16/01/2013 at 21:55
16/01/2013 at 22:45

Snow forecast for friday - could be quite a bit in the north west, windy too...we're talking blizzards - and all I'm worried about is how I'm going to fit my 12 mile run in.

Been out to celebrate missus' birthday tonight - ate loads.


16/01/2013 at 22:50
15West wrote (see)

Snow forecast for friday - could be quite a bit in the north west, windy too...we're talking blizzards - and all I'm worried about is how I'm going to fit my 12 mile run in


LOL same here 15w it has been playing on my mind all day...this is getting silly now..we are being taken over by P&D is almost like being brainwashed !! although  here in Southwest..it is forecast cold rain..!!!

Edited: 16/01/2013 at 22:52
16/01/2013 at 22:59

15w and NN, relieved to hear its not just me then obsessing about the bad weather and working out when/how will get all my runs done.

16/01/2013 at 23:10
Me too. Trying to decide if want to postpone 10 miles tomorrow till Friday as can't get into the gym early enough to do it before work and have stuff to do after work. :/

Did 5 miles recovery tonight on treadmill. Watch a programme on food inspectors - very educational and rather off putting if you buy from takeaways.
16/01/2013 at 23:11

Markf, it had been bothering me too -- on Monday I was in a really bad mood and couldn't work out why, and then I realised it was because I was worried I wouldn't be able to do this week's runs because it had been snowing all day! That's when I started researching local gyms and ringing them up to find out how long you could go on the treadmill for... but I'm still really hoping I don't have to do 20 miles on a treadmill this Sunday.

16/01/2013 at 23:12

Ooh, Fiona, I saw that programme too while on the treadmill! But (mercifully?) without the sound as I'd forgotten to bring headphones to plug in.

It was past my dinner time by that stage, so it perversely made me kind of hungry...

16/01/2013 at 23:29
Sounds like I'm not the only one fed up about not doing enough running.

I've been raring to go for the half marathon on Sunday and I can't see that being on which has put me in a bad mood!
The alternative to the treadmill is running on the beach so that's what I'm doing tomorrow.

I suppose we can't control the weather so it's pointless worrying about it.
17/01/2013 at 08:04

Morning All

Wow this is a busy thread! Congrats to all who completed thier scheduled runs yesterday (especially in adverse weather conditions)

I ran the prescribed 14M ML yesterday in 1:49, and have a nice relaxed 5M recovery effort on the menu today - weather here in North Devon is still cold but snow/ice free

Hope everybody's training goes well today!

17/01/2013 at 10:09

Literatin - I was following the subtitles as I find it impossible to keep the headphones in place and the cord drives me nuts.

Still rather icy around where I live so I think it will be the treadmill again. I wonder what is on TV tonight .....

17/01/2013 at 10:21

10mi GA run planned this evening (home from work), with a 5mi recovery run into work tomorrow morning. Looks like it will be cold.

17/01/2013 at 10:50

10 miles GA for me as well, got the morning off so waited for the light skies before starting. Very icy with some really low overnight temperatures here, evn the trail I used for 4 miles of it was pretty bad in places.  But think I have scouted out enough clear roads to do my long run Sunday if we don't see any warm up, well actually heavy snow forecast again here for Saturday so it could all change.

17/01/2013 at 12:38
15West wrote (see)

Snow forecast for friday - could be quite a bit in the north west, windy too...we're talking blizzards - and all I'm worried about is how I'm going to fit my 12 mile run in.

Been out to celebrate missus' birthday tonight - ate loads.


Don't worry 15, I can beat that...  Last night, 10 mins before I was due to go out on my MRL (13 miles), my dearest husband rang me to say he had found our beloved cat lying on the road, having been knocked over by a car and he was rushing her to vet.  I burst into tears and then after a couple of mins thought "ah shit, I can't fit that run in now".  How evil am I...?!   Thankfully, the cat was found and her swift dash to Vet has meant she has survived!  But all I could think was, my plan for the week is now messed up. 

Literatin, do you think you could do 20 miles on treadmill?  I am not sure if I could, it would be over 3 hours for me and I think I would get thrown out of gym for being a tad obsessed.   However, I would if I had no choice.  Probably do 1:30 though, get off for 5 mins and stretch out and have a drink etc then do another 1:30. 

Not sure if Helsby Half is going to be affected yet, no snow here yet but forecast for tomorrow. I may even consider renting a snow plough myself and clear the route! 

I have decided to jump down to the sub 55 mile plan this week so I am a bit more fresh for Helsby (if it is still on) and it makes sense really.  I am pondering whether I can seriously maintain the 55-70 plan...

Edited: 17/01/2013 at 12:41
17/01/2013 at 13:05


Evil?? I think that would have applied more if you HAD gone on the planned run. Try substituting CARING instead?? Some things in life are more important than running/training and one (or two) missed sessions over an 18 week build up will have no effect on the overall outcome......

 So glad to hear your (obviously) beloved pet is OK! Now you can concentrate on the training again!!!

Best Regards


Edited: 17/01/2013 at 13:06
17/01/2013 at 13:14

Latest forecast missing manchester - but plenty will fall further south. Looks like Wales and W Midlands going to get a proper dumping. Might have to head out with daughter to hunt snow on saturday as she's desperate to play in some.

Looks like Helsby could well be hit by snow tomorrow.


17/01/2013 at 13:15

Oh, and back to running - 5 v easy miles done at lunchtime.

17/01/2013 at 13:50

HeOw, I'm not sure I could do 20 miles on the treadmill but would probably give it a go if I couldn't see any other way. However, I wouldn't try until I'd gone down to the river to check out the conditions on the paths I usually use, as even if only some stretches were runnable on it would still be better to do several back-and-forth laps along the same bit than to spend that long in the gym.

There's more snow forecast for here this weekend, but hopefully that'll mean a layer of snow I can run on on Sunday, rather than just more hard-packed slippy ice. At the moment quite a lot of the ice here has dispersed (rather than melted; not warm enough for that!) so I may manage an outdoor run later and avoid the treadmill.

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