Hello all. Supposed to be a tune up race day today, but instead did 11mi with 6 at LT pace.
Thanks for the Steve Way link 15W. Many hours of blog reading there!
My plan of running the 4 miles to a parkrun worked out well. Did the parkrun in about 20:45 which I am happy with as there is a 100 foot hill you have to do twice. My only mistake was to start scoffing some free flapjacks afterwards before realising I had to run home! Oops
PB at parkrun for me today of 21:18. I was absolutely delighted!
Well done all on the park runs/
18mi for me this morning, was a bit knackered after yesterday's LT run.
parkruns are fab! Just short of 15 miles for me today. Still trying to decide what marathon pace actually is! Got less than a fortnight to figure it out.
Well done on your 18 miles 15West. Very humid for it just now.
Seems to have gone a little quiet on this thread lately.... I wonder how many are injured ? This high mileage stuff has its casualties.
I've just about managed to make it through the last 3 weeks of transatlantic work trip followed by couple of weeks holiday.... everything was going to plan until last week when I ended up with a cold on holiday so wisely decided to ditch the running and relax instead.... missed few sessions and the planned 32k on Saturday turned into a 19k instead as I was not sure I had 32k in me after illness.
Week 10/18 for me this week... first VO2max session tomorrow... looking forward to some faster training to be honest... lets hope my cold doesn't flare back up as the rest of the family now have it
Hello Mark and everyone else....no injury here, yet. Was knackered yesterday though. 6mi recovery run for me this morning, took it very easy...schedule looks a bit scary for the next few weeks.
Congrats on your parkrun PB clag!
Pleased to report I've settled back into the regular running routine again after the short break away and a nasty stomach bug. Managed a tough, all off-road 16 miles at the weekend and feel ready to get back on it now.
This time in 8 weeks, I'll (hopefully) be a marathoner!
Good stuff Tiny.
Morning all. VO2 session for me today, 12mi with 6x1000m. Off to do it now actually, get it out the way.
Sorry another question!
My schedule this Saturday calls for an 8-15km tune up race (4-9miles)
and then says 13miles at planned MP
So a bit confused what to do as there is a bit of a difference between the two?
Well done on the parkrun PB clag, always a confidence booster to get PBs during marathon training.Tiny the next 8 weeks will fly by - I like to break it down and look at it as only 5 weeks until the taper!15West - Yes the plan is now looking a bit scary!
I am a bit confused by your question! I am sure P&D would never put a MP run the day after a tune-up race.
Normally the total distance of a tune-up race is longer than the race so you can do a couple of miles warm up and warm down. The day after the race normally specifies a long run (e.g. 17 miles.)
Are you doing a P&D schedule? If so what week of what plan?
I'm doing the 55-70mile P&D
I'm on week 7 (7weeks to go), session 83 on the Excel spread sheet
I don't have the advanced marathoning book to hand,
Saturdays session says 8-15k Tune up race, next to it is 13 miles at planned Marathon pace ?
Then Sundays session has an 18 mile long run.
Okay, without having either the book or the spreadsheet to hand, I think:
So that's my theory. Up to you if you think it's plausible or not!
First VO2Max session done... 13k with 5x800... enjoyed it although the last few hurt, reckon I over-estimated my 5k time and ran them too fast... no way I could run a 5k at 3:4x/km.
Still a bit snotty after my cold... farmers hanky every few hundred yards
That sounds about right Literatin!
According to the book at the end of week 6 (meaning on the Sunday there are 6 weeks left) you do a 8K - 15K tune-up race (total 9-13miles) on the Saturday and a 18 miler on Sunday.
I guess if you raced a 10K and did 6 miles in total of warm up and warm down the resulting average pace might be close to MP?
Debutant..,,it's 13 mi max. In actual book it says 9 to 13 mi...so just add a few miles to a race (few miles warm up and cool down); or do a LT run (10mi with 6@LT?).
My intervals went ok too...all between 5.30 and 5.45 pace (maybe - haven't checked garmin).
Finding all running a struggle though at moment, this is the real tough part of the training schedule. Makes me question why I'm doing all this. When training for London last spring I vowed to myself no more marathons this year....and here I am. So...probably doing London next spring (have already paid for a GFA)...and then NO MORE in 2014.
15W - Like you I wonder whether two marathons a year is worth it, and plan to keep to one in 2014 - but will I have the willpower to stick to that plan!
Thanks guys, that sounds a lot better than 13 at MP!
Off to the track now to do some intervals, Stick with it 15West not long to go to the taper or so i keep telling myself. Yes me too, i've done 2 marathon a year for the past 3 years, think i'll just do one next year.
What's the point of strides?
I mean the 10 x 100m ones at the end of a recovery run. Obviously they're aimed at increasing speed... but I can't believe they bring a significant benefit... but have the potential to undo some of the good effect you've done to your slow-twitch muscle training.
I'm not doing them. Seems like more harm than good.
not doing them?
NOT DOING THEM?
Aren't strides something to do with helping with form, but little else? I don't really like doing them either as on tired legs I always feel mroe vulnerable to injury when sprinting. Think they are probably of some value as they wouldn't be there otherwise, but probably low priority compared to the main key sessions.
15mi for me this morning. Off work this week.
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