Running and rowing (erging)

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28/12/2012 at 17:57

I had another crack at a 5k time trial the other day and beat my previous time by 1 sec! The bonus being that I didn't feel I was particularly trying, so one day I might have a real beast at it.

I do prefer going long on the rower, and I might have a crack at a half-marathon on there at some point - the furthest I have done so far was 17km.

Hope everyone has had a good Christmas

29/12/2012 at 08:22

You need to beast it Vixxmas!! If you didn't feel like you were trying you'll be able to smash your previous time. My 5k pb pace is about 5sec's/100m slower than my 2k pb pace. If you've done a 2k tt, try that and hang in there. It will be fun.

 

29/12/2012 at 09:55

Thanks Hannah. I've not done a 2k tt as I tend to want to go long, so a 5k tt fits in with that as I can still manage to do an hour. I think that the best time for me to have a crack at either a 2k or a 5k tt in a proper sense is at the end of a training session rather than at the beginning.

The best time I have ever done a 2k tt in (again not really trying) is 8.34 min.

29/12/2012 at 11:37

Vixxmas, that's a good time.  I would be pleased with that.  I, personaly am struggling to see how I can get better in terms of geting more feet per stroke.  Other people seem to be going a lot faster than me on less strokes per minute.  Failing suddently gaining longer legs overnight, what can I do?  Is it the intesity that you push off with your legs combined with the pull of the arms at the end of the stroke. 

29/12/2012 at 12:54

I find that when I slow down and practice proper technique my speed goes up. I find it is the sum of all parts that contributes - push off from feet/legs followed by proper pull through with the arms with core stability allowing control. My technique was drilled into me at 6th form by an ex-Army PE teacher, but I still find occasionally if I really work at it my technique can be better.

29/12/2012 at 14:33

Becky, technique as has been said is key, but also your age and weight have a big impact. I'm very much a lightweight rower. There is no way I could match up to a reasonable heavyweight.

I'm currently doing the Pete Plan and am seeing small improvements.

If you are enjoying row pro, there is a monthly RowPro Race Night. Everyone joins in the same race, but a handicapping is then applied. I was encouraged to place 4th for the last two months, yet I was well down the field during the event. Next one is 7th Jan and will be a 10k race:

http://concept2.co.uk/rns/

29/12/2012 at 14:39

Good point Also-ran. I would definitely be classed as a heavyweight.

29/12/2012 at 15:18
Sadly. I am a heavyweight as well. Will look into those handicapped races. Thanks.
29/12/2012 at 21:13

The cut-off point for male lightweights is 11st 11lb. My weight, infuriatingly, is steady at a couple of lb either side of 12 stone. So in terms of tonnage I am a heavyweight but in every other regard I am very much a lightweight ... harrumph.

Competitive rowing is all about height and power. You need to be 6 foot 5 and built like a carthorse. That is not me.

BB: you could try practising increasing your output per stroke. For example, on a 5,000m workout you could settle into a comfortable pace for the first 2,000 and then aim to maintain the pace at one fewer spm to 3,000 then one fewer to 4,000 and again one fewer to the finish. Or a variant of that. Or, hold a decent pace at comfortable spm and then drop 1 stroke per minute for the final 1,000m and then in the next workout do that for the final 2,000m and so on, until you're doing the whole workout at the same pace but slower stroke.

Vixx: one second is one second. It all counts, you know!

29/12/2012 at 21:44

Oh aye Muttley

31/12/2012 at 18:52

Had another crack at the 5k tt today and knocked my time down to 21.37 min. 13 seconds off I think I could have pushed harder but wasn't quite feeling tip-top. Still chuffed though.

Hope everyone has a good NYE and a great 2013

31/12/2012 at 19:50

Yay, well done Vixx - 13 seconds is great going but leave a bit in the tank for next time. Gradually does it

I also did a 5k just now and knocked 3 seconds off the previous time. Pacing got a bit ragged in final 1k but I feel there's more to come.

I totted up my stats for the year outgoing - 873,855m, doing over 100,000m for each of the past four months. I wish someone would tell my waistline, grrrrrr.

Happy 2013 to all ergers - may your bum not get numb

31/12/2012 at 19:52

Muttley - I did have some in the tank, but am just not generally a morning person!

Wow to your stats! They are really impressive Well Done

31/12/2012 at 23:44
Good going vixmas and muttley. Have racked up 57000 mentored in my first 2 weeks of having the rower. I reckon I could knock off a few seconds off my 500m time and get below 2 mins very soon. Just not today as my legs are still sore from yesterday's 10 mile run.
31/12/2012 at 23:45
Oh and happy new Erging everyone.
01/01/2013 at 22:59

Also-ran: is that you on the C2 forum posting about the Dynamic?

02/01/2013 at 12:31

That is me Muttley. I poke my head into the C2 forums now and again mainly to look at the training threads.  As shown on that thread about the Dynamic my choice of rower was not very technical: Is it made by Concept, and if so does it fit - yes/no?

02/01/2013 at 14:52

Ah, I thought so. I lurk on that forum quite a bit, mainly looking at the training threads. They're all a bit hardcore over there, I think it would benefit from a "paddlers" section. I occasionally post, under the name Rowan McSheen.

02/01/2013 at 15:23
Muttley wrote (see)

 

BB: you could try practising increasing your output per stroke. For example, on a 5,000m workout you could settle into a comfortable pace for the first 2,000 and then aim to maintain the pace at one fewer spm to 3,000 then one fewer to 4,000 and again one fewer to the finish. Or a variant of that. Or, hold a decent pace at comfortable spm and then drop 1 stroke per minute for the final 1,000m and then in the next workout do that for the final 2,000m and so on, until you're doing the whole workout at the same pace but slower stroke.

 

Sounds like a useful exercise, cheers Muttley!

I was hovering around the 12st mark for a time but I've since dropped down to the 11st - 11st 5 area since upping my running training, so I'm glad to say I'm officially a lightweight!    At 5'10" I'm probably a reasonable height for a lightweight as well.

Technique-wise, I'm not an expert but besides aerobic fitness I think I rely fairly heavily on strong quads from cycling for my rowing.

02/01/2013 at 22:31

Nice erging everyone. I did a 5k TT on the erg on new years day. I find that rate restricted rows on the erg are good for a stronger stroke. I also do a lot without my feet strapped in. I drive better with my legs with no foot straps. Run tomorrow.

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