Saturday session 21/12/2002

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21/12/2002 at 10:16
Morning all. You all out shopping already??

What: Gentlest of recovery jogs - 20 mins max
Why: Between long tempo run and long run tomorrow

last hard day: Fri
last rest day: Thu
last long day: Sun (& Fri)
21/12/2002 at 11:23
Xmas shopping (so what am I doing here!), but plan to run for as long as I can when I get back!

Better go
21/12/2002 at 12:05
Forums are empty today aren't they!!

Later today - 90 - 120 mins mixture of canal and hills around Bath
Why - Connemara Marathon of course!
Last hard - Tue
Last rest - yesterday at office party/dance
Next - 5/6m easy tomorrow

Get me something nice Snicksteuse!!
21/12/2002 at 12:48
Morning all.

What: 18 miles easy. 1Ok routes x 3
Lap one 47.12
Lap two 44.03
Lap three 42.20

Why: should be doing this run tomorrow but working all night, ive got 4.5hrs of sleep to get in before i start......ahhhhhhhhh

Last rest: Friday

Last Hard: Today as conditions were not kind.

Have a good weekend all!
21/12/2002 at 14:25

Sounds a hard session to me !

What :-
- 2km on treadmill @ 15 kmh
- 10 km Christmas club run, mince pies and mulled wine after
- followed by 5 km on treadmill @ 16 kmh

Now nursing an sore ankle, which is a good excuse to rest over Christmas - fine when you run on it, but painful after rest.

21/12/2002 at 14:46
What: nowt
Why: Stomach bug (back with avengance, got no sleep last night)
Last Hard: ???
Last Rest: Tues/Today

Arse! Guess I ought to have a restday before starting my Horwill schedule tommorow anyway... Damn you fates!
21/12/2002 at 15:04
Hi all! Just going out now plan as follows; Christmas shopping now all done presnts all wrapped and under the tree.

What: 8 Miles Fartlek
Why: Says so on Schedule

Last Hard: Sunday Race
Last Rest: Monday

Good running!!!
21/12/2002 at 15:43
Speedie- your 18 miles lap 2 was done at my 10k pace. Wish I could keep it up for 10 miles never mind 18!! You obviosly live up to your name. Well done for getting your run in today and enjoy your well earned sleep!

Well done everyone else who is still managing to fit in the runs.

What: Swim, 50 x 25m
Why: running rest day
Last hard: yesterday
Last rest: Thursday
21/12/2002 at 17:22
What: 21.5 mile leisurely run over as many hills as I could find. Now feel well and truly knackered.
Why: 3 hour run as part of schedule
Last hard: Wednesday
Last rest: yesterday (enforced due to other commitments)

KK, re your recovery pace. What we have to bear in mind is that the Horwill recovery pace is based on running on a track. 6:45 pace on a track is an easy pace but on the road and hills it's not! I'm quite happy with a 7:15 pace on the circuits I use. Although I haven't checked it I think that the HR for the 6:45 pace on the track would be similar to 7:15 pace on most undulating routes.
21/12/2002 at 18:27
it is quiet around here, isn't it?

what: 5 miles recovery at 6:55 pace
why: compromise pace ????!!!
last rest: Tuesday
last hard day: yesterday

20 miler tomorrow - envying those of you who've got their long ones out of the way today!
21/12/2002 at 18:28

What: 10 miler.
Why: Saturday is (now) long run day. Well, it's long for me!
Rest: Yesterday.
Hard: Today!

Ta ta.
21/12/2002 at 20:22
Speedwork, cos too wussy to go outside
!0 mins warmup
Then 200m at 11.5 kph(note speed increase) with 200m 5.5.kph recovery
Times 10!!!!!!!1
Then cooldown
Now when i get used to this appallingly fast speed, do i lenghthen the time, or go faster?
21/12/2002 at 20:33
Wimped out I admit.
Had been a hard day's shopping; then came home, managed to blow a fuse in the box which took out the downstairs lighting; shot off to B&Q for some fuse wire (5A), came back, rewired fuse; then time to go en famille to local outdoor carol service. Managed 15 mins of that in icy rain & wind & the hypothermic experience convinced me to bring forward Monday's rest day to tonight. Partcularly as the forecast for Monday is for it to be milder.
That's my excuse anyway.
21/12/2002 at 20:34
What: 4 miles easyish (plus 2 big hills!)
Why: long run planned for tomorrow
Last Hard: Wed
Last rest: Thurs and Fri (work Xmas doo)
21/12/2002 at 21:40
I forgot all about this thread! Oops for me :)

What: One and a half miles.
Why: It's the standard Forces running measurement - to be completed in less than 10 mins 30 secs - and I wanted to make sure that despite my injury setting back my training I was still 'fit enough'. I was, fortunately - I completed the run in about 9 minutes. Not as fast as I've done it before, but plenty fast enough for the assessments. :)

Last hard: Today, cos I was running fast on some horrible mud.
Last rest: Yesterday.
21/12/2002 at 21:46
Oh, and for what it's worth, my interpretation of a 'recovery' run is just that - it's for recovery. If I go any faster than seven to eight minute miles (depending on training intensity and emphasis), I've gone too fast. The point of the run is to allow the body to consolidate muscular or aerobic gains made in your hard training, while at the same time keeping those legs moving, albeit to a lower level of activity, so that the body maintains its state of being used to regular running. just my humble opinion :)
21/12/2002 at 22:34
benz - wow, speed merchant, you're really getting into this, aren't you?

you could try any number of things now: a) increase the number of reps; b) reduce the length of the recoveries; c) try for 400m reps instead but fewer of them (or even try alternating 200m and 400m efforts to start with). probably best not to increase the speed of the efforts at this stage if you're feeling they're prettyy fast already.

great stuff, keep it up and in a month or so you'll be amazed at yourself.
21/12/2002 at 22:36
Thanks achilles
I think ill try the alternating 200 and 400
But i need my recoveries, heart rate takes a while to drop to 130
If Im doing a marathon, should my speed sessions be longer?
21/12/2002 at 23:08
Psi: If you look at the link on my post on yesterdays training thread, you'd see where the Horwill recovery pace calculation comes from. As it stands I'm inclined to agree with you, but I'm gonna give the whole Horwill thing a try, hook, line & sinker, so to speak.
Drew: Good point on Roads vs. track, I'll bear that in mind, I also think Frank mentions what recovery HR is on his site, so I might work from that instead...
22/12/2002 at 08:46
Must agree with Psi so far as recovery runs are concerned - you shouldn't be having to make any effort to keep to a particular pace. Otherwise - by definition - it isn't a "recovery" run.
I hate recovery runs btw.
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