Shades Marathon Training

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21/11/2012 at 11:55

aww slowkoala that sucks! I used to but found i just needed to change diet

21/11/2012 at 13:23

Slowkoala - oh dear!   Lots of runners take Imodium on race days, some just as a precaution.  Fortunately I've never suffered from runners trotts.

It might have been something you ate yesterday.  

21/11/2012 at 14:37

Shades - you sent me the plan a few months back and I'm now getting ready to start training for VLM 2013.  However, I'm only just getting over an achilles problem.  Therefore, I've not got many (any) base miles to my name for the last 4-6 weeks.  In your expert opinion, will this become a problem if I start your plan as per the timetable in mid-December.

Thanks in advance !


21/11/2012 at 17:54

snapdragon - an achilles problem is not to be messed with so don't be tempted to do too much to soon.   Just ease yourself into the plan and do what is comfortable for you, so I suggest you err on the side of caution on the distance of the long runs until you're sure your injury is completely healed.   Caution with the tempo runs too, perhaps substitute for an easy run until you feel you can try a little faster stuff.

21/11/2012 at 22:42

Ooooh slowkoala that's a horrible thing to have to go through. I never get trotts but i have on a couple of occassions needed to 'go'. On the first occassion I was lucky as I was running loops near my house and I just popped in, did what i needed to do, and carried on my run. My wife was not quite sure what was going on and looked a little shocked The second time I was so desperate I wandered in to a builders merchants and asked the receptionsists if she would take pity on me and let me use the toilet, which thankfully she did. 

I now run with some toilet roll in my pocket! Haven't needed it since thank god. 

I ran after work in the dark today. Did a 10 mile mid week long run. The wind had died right down and it was not raining. I think I picked the only 2 hour window in the whole day when it was not raining and blustery! Lucky me!

I feel like I am coming down with ANOTHER cold! My little ones are sneezing away so it does not surprise me. I guess this is the cost of having two 3 year olds in kindergarten

Hope I am better in time for my 20 mile long slow run this weekend. 

22/11/2012 at 07:10

Khanivore - you were lucky with the weather for your run.   Hope the cold comes to nothing but don't worry you are well ahead in your marathon training.

Forecast bad here today again and I've just managed to have a rain free run too.  Nice and mild though

Where's Emmy?

22/11/2012 at 08:11

*waves* Hello Everyone. I did my first run of the week this morning. 4 miles gentle. It's the first run after the sickness bug and maybe i've been overcautious but I wanted to take it easy.

@Shades - I'm trying to work out what to do between now and January to tide me over/prepare for the double. I have a few 'tentative' marathons but i'm trying to work out what to do for midweek runs/LSRs. Any advice?

@Slowkoala - We've all been there... I've been caught short in the woods before  I don't take immodium but normally focus on my diet.


22/11/2012 at 08:19

Emmy - it's worth being a bit cautious after you've been ill.

Re training maybe do some longish runs at the weekends on consecutive days.   Say 10 miles on Sat and 15 miles on Sunday (or vice versa), not every weekend.    Although you need a good level of fitness (marathon fit) to do a double, what gets you through the 2nd day is your brain - determination to keep going and get to the finish.

22/11/2012 at 08:48
4 miles on Monday and the club session last night went well.

I normally run on Fridays but I'm supposed to be in London tomorrow so was planning on running today instead. However, all trains are cancelled from Exeter and looking at the forecast the prospect of getting to London tomorrow doesn't look great.

I'll still run today just incase I do get to travel tomorrow.

It's a funny thing that non-running friends don't seem to 'get'. My whole life is arranged around running it seems
22/11/2012 at 08:53

Hi Shades, Thanks for the advice. I'm going to give it a go this weekend (15,10) and see how I get on. Do you have a mental tricks for the 2nd day?

@Bootsie - my friends are the same... they can't quite 'get' that i've got running to do

Edited: 22/11/2012 at 08:54
22/11/2012 at 08:59

Emmy - You at Foxys Christmas double?

Big G - My daughter couldn't get into Exeter yesterday or today. Hope it improves soon. Well done on a good club session last night. At least it stayed dry! 

22/11/2012 at 09:10

Hi VR. I'm trying to work out if I can do it at the moment... the issue I have is time. We've booked to go to Barcelona from Tues-Fri... so I need to back in Belgium Monday night. Options are:

1) Drive over from Belgium (likely early on saturday morning) then run 2 marathons over the weekend and then head to my parents - sort and clear out 2 rooms to the dump on Monday and then head back to Belgium Monday night. I don't think it's realistic... even for me!

2) Run just saturday - spend two days at my parents helping them out and then come back Monday night as scheduled....

3) OR...... just spend the weekend there and dont run a marathon....

oh the dilemma 

There is also the possibility of a 'unofficial' marathon with RW the weekend after which would be nice.... but doesnt count to the 100.

22/11/2012 at 09:39

morning all

unofficial emmy?

5km done last night in 24 mins 16.. i know i can get under 24.. i will do it!!

interval training with Shireen today.. trying to gear up mentally to the pain!

22/11/2012 at 12:47

Hi Bootsie,

I keep getting confuse between you and Big G!

Have a look here. One of the RW team is running 12 marathon in 12 days and looking for people to run with. As London is easy for me - I thought about the last leg(s). Are you interested maybe?

22/11/2012 at 13:14

Emmy - different shoes for day too, run easy and an out and back route for Day2 will help as you know once you've turned for home that you'll be fine.

Refuel well after Day 1

bootsie - I'm sure sub 24 mins is yours very soon

22/11/2012 at 13:14

I'll tak e a look Emmy!

7 * 45 seconds with decreasing rest periods from 45 seconds down to 10 seconds then back up again so 14 all in ! managed 1.58 miles in 10 mins 42 seconds.. happy with that!

22/11/2012 at 14:05

Another evening run for me today grrr and then i'm taking it easy until my first TWENTY mile run on Sunday! Eeeeeeek! Hope the weather is ok or it's going to be a miserable and very very long run

From next week I am going to run 5 days a week. I have not been doing the optional days so far. However, I love my food as you all know and on days I run I can eat more basically

I was toying with the idea of alternating between 1600m intervals (with 800m jogs) and hill repeats from week to week on my extra day of running. However, people are telling me that doing more easy miles will be a bigger benefit for me than intervals. What do you think Shades?

22/11/2012 at 14:12

@Bootsie - if you're interested - it would be great to run with you.

@Khani - 20 miles already?! Woah - you're an early starter!

22/11/2012 at 14:46

Emmy I can't!! i'm back in ireland from the 20th

22/11/2012 at 17:20

Khanivore - you shouldn't be increasing the distance of your long runs and starting intervals at the same time.   So for now, focus on distance and improving your endurance and aerobic fitness.  There is plenty of time to do some sharpening later on by introducing some short speedy stuff.

eat to run/run to eat - lots of folk run so they can eat more or less what they want

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