What are the guidelines on eating before and during a long run? During training I go v early in the morning so don't eat anything, even before a long run and feel fine... During my marathon I nibbled on a couple of sultanas after about 30k because I saw other people doing this and thought I probably should. I have never tried gels etc and would not know where to start.
Should I make myself eat something before?
Should I carry something sweet just in case?
Hey Mamafox - I think it depends. I normally run 10-11 miles without food in the morning (first thing) but sometimes if i need it - i'll drink some ice tea (with sugar) along the way and it helps with the hunger pangs.
I think trying a few different gels (SiS, powerbar, high 5) is the best place to start. I only use them on my LSR (over 12 miles) and will take one every 30 minutes after 1hr of exercise so:
1hr: 1 gel1hr 30: 2nd gel2hr: flapjack or gel2hr 30 : gel
Maybe try a banana before you go to see? Trial and error is the way forward.
@Big G - Well done on the 14 miles! That's a great distance considering the weather! I think gels/fuelling is a quite a personal thing. What works for one person may not work for another. I was getting on really well with SiS energy drinks but didnt want to carry round a litre during the summer!
You're not a phoney! We're just on the crazy bandwagon....
@Big_G - Some days are good days and others kick your ass and spit you out the other side. I remember training for VLM and doing my first 18/20 milers. They felt GREAT - then the second time - I struggled for whatever reason It's only getting used to the distance I think?
What race are you aiming for in March?
hi all, lovely running this weekend.. did 7 miles on sat morning in the rain and wind.. felt glad to see the back of it but happy out I got it done ..
hope everyone else enjoyed the weather this weekend
Lovely weather here but I felt bone idle and had the weekend off
Back running this evening though
Clag - very well done on your HM time!!
Khanivore - 18 miles is a long way so absolutely nothing to feel guilty about! well done!
Mamafox/emmy/bigG - I never go out for a run without food in my stomach. It works different for everyone but ever since I've had porridge I don't need to take imodium beforehand. I don't have bananas of coffee the day before either. During the marathon I start taking gels (powerbar without caffeine) after 25 mins and then take them every 25mins. I don't get to the point where I'm hungry or feel I need anything, I top up before that starts. I used to have tummy probs and have been sick quite often but I've cracked it now but you've just got to try beforehand and see what works for you.
I frequently do upto 10-12 mile runs at any time of the year without food before hand or even carrying a drink in the hot summer (it happens )
I dont generally bother during a marathon BUT on my PB one switching to Hi 5 later on worked so will be doing that sort of thing in the future. For long runs i'll have brekkie before going out.
Brilliant everyone, thank you very much for the advice... will start experimenting!
Big G - If anyone is a phoney around here it's me Although I have done a marathon I was extremely unprepared for it, being someone who has just run when I can without any planning at all. As you can probably gather from my comments I know very little about training but (largely thanks to all the advice and support I pick up on this thread) I am learning and really feel it is making a difference to my running, feeling more motivated and in control of things.
You seem well organised with your training and if you are like this in November then by next spring people like you and Khanivore will be coming out with some fab times with your races!
Morning! Looking forward to seeing a photo of VR in her "100" vest I would be so proud to run in one, maybe in about 15-20 years' time!
I just read 'running faster' by Julian Goater. It was a fun read as he brought his stories alive with first hand experiences of a world class athlete. However, much of the book was about how to compete against others which is of no interest to me. He also constantly encourages you to go cross country racing which is not happening any time soon for me either Generally a fun read though and I found the advice on running form and cadence very useful. I have implemented it and I feel I am running much more freely, with less pain, and generally more easily now. Hope this helps some other shadies.
I am thinking about reading Advanced Marathoning by P&D next. Is that more for people who have run a few marathons already though?
Khanivore - well done on your 18 miles. Don't beat yourself up about the distance, first run of a new distance I would aim for a flat/undulating route, 2nd time for that distance you can use a more undulating route and later on a route with a few hills.
I think you should leave P & D at least until you've run your first marathon.
mamafaox - I don't eat before I run in the morning, except when doing long runs and I would always eat breakfast on race day. Start experimenting carefully with what suits you. During a marathon I eat a few sweets, maybe a few dates and add some electrolytes to the water (can't stomach sports drinks).
Big G - don't forget we start our December streak on Saturday so get that run done before you start the birthday celebrations
molly - absolutely loved Florence but we did miss you. A great marathon and a fab place, we sooooo enjoyed the food. I didn't have a good run, felt tired and no energy right from the start so I pulled back and just socialised and did took in the sights on the way round. Weather was perfect too. Will definitely be going back to Italy for another marathon or two and would love to do Florence again and do justive to the course.
That was my last race of the year...time to start some training now. I have picked up a little injury on my foot but think it will be OK in a day or so.
Shades congratulations on completing another year of races Sounds like you all had a fantastic time!
@Molly - I agree about Porridge. It's food of the gods! I make mine with Soya Milk as it helps my stomach. I'd love a 100 vest but am trying not to put my 'goal' on it or i'll get obsessed!
@Mamafox - In your next one you'll be fine. Every run/marathon is a learning experience. What works, what doesnt work, how your mind works etc.
@Shades - Well done on Florence! I've heard its an absolutely stunning city.
I've signed up "only" for one marathon in December. I decided on the Winter Enigma (day 1).... it was my parents that forced the decision unfortunately - they need me to clear out 2 rooms at home before christmas
Another 5 miles this morning and it was suprisingly warm!
Florence was indeed lovely. I would go back too. A Shadey trip for next year?? Emmy isn't the Winter Enigma in January?
Hi VR - It's the Christmas Enigma (15th Dec)... i'm doing my first 'double' at the winter one.... i apologise - my brain is fried a little at the moment!
Khanivore - thanks, now I'm going to settle down to some serious winter training
Emmy - yes, can recommend yu put Florence on your 'to do list'.
Good news that you're just going to do the one in December, more is not always better and don't worry about the number of marathons, there's plenty time if you ever want to get to 100, it's not a race!
Finding it very cold after Italy, haven't run today as I'm resting my foot.
Back to work though
Emmy - I will be there too. Still not sure about the Sunday though. Don't really need to double anymore. So it will be good to meet you
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