Shades Marathon Training

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07/01/2013 at 20:11
Never used one before but it didn't cost much more to get one with it included and might want to try one day.
07/01/2013 at 20:39
I love my garmin HRM
07/01/2013 at 20:49

Hi Emmy, are you using it to just monitor your HR or using your HR to set your running pace and distance etc?

07/01/2013 at 21:00
Hi Rattler, I use it for both. I have alerts for high heart rate but I also do my training based on heart rate. My runs are always done within a certain limit (tempo for one, easy on another). I have a heart condition so have done it to make sure that I'm within safe limits.

To be honest it takes longer to build up endurance but you're training is more reliable as the heart rate takes stuff like illness and stress into consideration
07/01/2013 at 21:09

Makes sense, thanks Emmy and congrats on the Enigma Double 

07/01/2013 at 22:56
I'm struggling to fit a long run into my schedule at the weekend. I usually go to running club on a Wednesday (where I do efforts) do a run on a Thursday, parkrun on a Saturday and a run with some girls from the club on a Monday. Now, the girls on a Monday run at the right speed for my LSR so what I've been doing is running 4-5 miles with them and then tacking more miles onto the end.

But I can't just carry on as the ethos of the club is that nobody runs alone, despite living in a tiny town with practically no crime and I run alone on Thursdays anyway. So what I do is I do the 4-5 miles, say goodbye, drive off and park, then do my extra miles.

Is this counter-productive to the reason for the LSR or is it okay?
08/01/2013 at 07:20

Big G - hope the achilles is OK today.

I live in a built up area and my 305 isn't quick to pick up a signal so I put my 305 on the window sill while I'm getting ready for my run and it picks up a signal from there.   So I can go straight out the door and run

Sofaboy - ditch those shoes (at least for running) lucky you didn't get injured

Emmy - I shall read your report later, am looking forward to that. 

bootsie - what's 'back to the trenches'?  sounds like there's some mud involved

KingKenny - I've been running marathons for quite a long time although I don't do as many in one year as mowzer and VR do, so they'll soon catch me up.   Most I've done in one year is 25 but I may exceed that this year but only because I have to squeeze quite a few in to hit 300 byt 11th August.

Rattler - HRM on 305 is very good, has been more reliable than previous HRM's I've used

Nykie - re your long runs that is absolutely fine to split your run like that.


Another lovely mild morning.

Good news, I've had my holiday leave approved for my trip to the IOM, but my colleague doesn't seem pleased, even though she can take the same time off

08/01/2013 at 08:01

Shades - good news about your holiday  I wonder why your colleague is displeased...seems odd.  Oh well, at least you've had it approved!

My achilles seems fine this morning - a little bit tight, but no pain.  I'll do stretches today, and will do a slow 5-miler tomorrow presuming that the pain stays away.

08/01/2013 at 08:32

Emmy - Wow! Congratulations!!, an amazing achievement and I really enjoyed reading your report. I much prefer running a circular route and find laps hard going so to do TWO consecutive marathons of laps unbelievable. What a great start to your year!

After a good week last week I have been struck down with sickness bug (I just LOVE my children). Feeling better today but too weak to do scheduled 16k. Hate rearranging my planned runs as have organised distances/times around work and family committments and the head space that takes to rearrange defeats me sometimes. Good news is that I have lost weight

Excellant news for your time off work Shades!

08/01/2013 at 08:34

Thanks Shades. Your colleague sounds jealous. As though she was trying to scupper your 300th marathon timing by requesting holiday.

08/01/2013 at 09:20


after my slightly abortive LSR on sunday and a more competetive than usual session of squash last night I've now got seriously achy legs. both Hamstrings feel pretty tight (possibly due to excessive lunging for little rubber balls), as does my right calf.

supposed to have a 5 mile easy tonight, but might do it at LSR pace and see how it goes. thankfully, living in a little village, i can't really head out into the countryside in the dark. so i'll never be more than a mile or so from home should i need to bail.

08/01/2013 at 10:37

lots of mud shades! its a military thing i thought i would give a go for a laugh! thankfully just after ballycotton so any injuries should be manageable if i slip

08/01/2013 at 10:38

Emmy - wow! Amazing work! Will read your report later but your consistency on those two marathons was amazing. Lots and lots and lots of training all paid off!

Shades (and others) - I realise 18 miles was too far  I seem to have got lucky as I am feeling 100% now. Any time that tendonitis flares up I just do a quick stretch and it's fine again. I don't think that was made worse by my long run - i think that will be here for a while, until I take a couple of months off from running according to what I have read. I can manage it with stretching in the mean time.

Will go for normal 5 mile easy pace run and get back on plan. I won't do tempo's for 3 weeks as per Shades's instructions (unless Shades tells me it is ok to do so before then). My LSR for next Sunday will be kept down to 15 miles and only if I continue to be pain free.

Edited: 08/01/2013 at 10:40
08/01/2013 at 10:49

Did 6.5 miles at 8.50 pace this morning, not sure I do mid-week morning runs well  but was comfortable. Had to drop the car of for MoT, so ran the long way back.

And trying to find a flat run for my tempo run this week is proving tricky - didn't realise how many hills there were in Surrey 

08/01/2013 at 10:51

Haha Rattler where are you? Near Dorking by any chance? 

08/01/2013 at 11:04

@Rattler - After what you asked about Heart Rate training. I was listening to Talk Ultra this morning in the car and it might be worth you having a listen to the christmas broadcast. Skip to 2.23.50 for the section on Heart Rate Training. I really enjoy their training advice.

08/01/2013 at 11:08

@Khani - I'm in Camberley, so the other side I'm afraid  - but there's still too many hills  - I need to find a flat 5 mile run for my tempo this week.

@Emmy - I'll listen in, thanks for this.


08/01/2013 at 12:21

Rattler I was just seeing if you were running in the 'Surrey Hills'. There are some brutal hills up that way.

08/01/2013 at 12:32

@Rattler - You're a camberley person! My brother lives in Farnborough and I was often running around the army range with him on long runs. You've got some lovely areas to train in!

08/01/2013 at 13:26

Emmy - lovely report and I'm glad you enjoyed yourself

Big G - that sounds promising, funny things achilles.

mamafox - oh poor you, hope the sickness bug doesn't last too long

bootsie - it does sound a bit rufty tufty

Sofaboy - Be careful, yu could easily pick up an injury with sore hammys and calf.

Nykie - my colleague is morbidly obese, eats crap and doesn't exercise, can't walk up the stairs without getting seriously out of breath so resents anyone who tries to make some effort to look after themselves.

Khanivore - you are forgiven, but please just be careful.   And you may be able to get rid of that tendonitis, keep stretching.

Rattler - can you find a mile lap perhaps that is flat and just do the tempo bit in laps?

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