Shades Marathon Training

Shades - I figured from this thread that you're an early riser, but running before 6am...wow!  I was still curled up in bed at that time.  When my club meets for an 8am start on a Saturday I find that a struggle 

intervals done.. fell over in the muck

Khanivore - I meant you can do a little running whilst your injury is healing.   You need to try and get shot of that injury, at your sports massage did she confirm it was tendonitis?

Keith - My SF test is to jump up and down

Good luck with the dentist

VR - I don't mind if cars hoot at me, half the time I don't know who it is that's hooting, if I can't recognise the car I certainly can't identify the driver in the dark, but I wave at anyone and everyone

Sofaboy - do you need to look at your shoes or maybe socks that are causing it?

Rattler - oh that working from home lark.   I got loads of training in when I had to spend a month 'working from home'

Big G - alarm goes off at 4.30am

bootsie - oh no, are you doing intervals off road?  That's tough

Shades - actually when I pointed to the pain at the massage she said it is not tenodnitis. She said it is a a muscle going along the side of my leg, not the one I originally hurt but one right next to it. I looked on a diagram and it is called the extensor digitorum longus, if I am feeling and seeing the same thing. It's a little hard to tell. 

To top it all I am now feeling a different pain more. There is a sore area at the top of my lower leg, around the side of the knobbly bit, on the inside of my leg. It could be a ligament or something but when I squeeze it I get a sharp pain on the OUTSIDE of my leg.. so weird.. so confusing.. 

Bootsie!!! Yoo're quite accident prone! Hope you're ok?

Shades - Ok, Next time I see you I will use my Klaxon

bootsie - hope you didn't get a mouthful of muck when you fell over . How's your horse getting on?

VR - oh,oh, a self confessed swinger . Hope your heel heals quickly.

Back from physio (and gym, same place). Only a little pain in heal, calf is much softer though she says my whole left foot and leg still feel stiffer than the right (knew I should have bought an automatic). Have blasted it with everything I can think of over the past week and it seems to be working so she said carry on and maybe try a little run after another week or so. Feeling a bit more hopeful now.

VR it freaks me out when people blow their horn too - gives me the shock of my life! Rather than a klaxon how about this? 

Khani - if you're not careful, you'll drive yourself mad, get disillusioned and stop running totally which would be a shame.  I'm no expert but as you have so many issues, I think you need to ease right off.

Shades - have pencilled in Florence. Was thinking of just going to the AGM but if this weather keeps up I won't even venture out (and it's quite a long way to drive, for me at least )

Sofaboy - I'd investigate your shoes and socks as Shades suggested. Might just be an inside seam or where the insole doesn't quite meet the edge of the shoe. My own feet are ultra sensitive to those kind of things. I've found callus removing creams are useless, but a chiropodist could file/cut it off (although they are a bit expensive).

Khanivore - you've loads of time before your marathon and already have a good base. Now's the time to sort out any injuries/niggles. Don't try to run through it (doesn't often work, trust me) and end up with a worse injury just a couple of weeks before your race.

Mowzer and Big_G you are right. I have skipped todays run and am not risking the turbo trainer either. I may go for a swim in an hour though as I can avoid using legs there. 

The massage really worked from the point of view that I don't seem to be getting that stiffening up of my leg any more. This new pain I described though is a bit worrying as it is sharp rather than a dull ache and I know that can spell trouble. I am not taking any risks with it. 

It's hard to know whether cycling is ok. It doesn't hurt during running and so it may not hurt during cycling either but it could still be doing me damage. Swimming at least seems safe.

Mowzer really good to see you are on the mend!

VR a good prank is priceless!

I'm all good after my fall! just having a small glass of vino to cheer myself up after a rubbish day in the office! 

Khanivore, massage sounds good.  Be so careful with that injury though

Shades - Yesterdays filling went fine NO anaesthetic either. But then that tooth may well be dead. I dread to think how long it will take for the hospital to get around to removing the other one though.

Well I wimped out of running outside and hit the gym for some interval work on the treadmill this afternoon.

But it was really tough, I did the same 1hr interval / inclines session that I normally do, but found it really tough today and I had found it easier in the past (not easy, just easier) before I started the plan.

So should this be tougher now I'm doing the plan with LSRs etc? Or was it just a low energy day? I'd hoped it would be getting easier and I could up the activity.

Tried to go swimming but some swimming club had taken over the pool So, I thought long and hard and decided to run just 5 miles very slowly after checking out my leg for any twinges and aches. It was in good shape so off I went. I hope that is ok shades given that I was not feeling any aches at this point.

This was my first run after the massage. Was able to stretch much more easily after this run. Pain was greatly reduced. When I say greatly I really do mean GREATLY. I dont know what that masseur did but it was magical it seems. Sore areas were left side of lower leg (that thin band in front of peroneus longus), inside hamstring just above knee and left hip. The soreness was nothing at all like before the massage.

Important not to get carried away! I won't be doing my long slow run or my mid week long run. Shades would 4 x 5 miles per week be the right thing to do and only then if I am not feeling aches and pains and twinges?

Khanivore - no, 4 runs a week is too much.   All those niggles and odd new pains are your body's way of saying it needs a rest.  Take 2 days rest then if all is well another slow 4 or 5 miler.

You're right, it's very hard to know what cross training will help or hinder recovery and when I've done a lot of cross training it's not been worth it fitness wise, so I only do a little (or none) now if I can't run.

VR - how's your foot?

mowzer - good news that you are healing.   Forecast is still awful for Glos, going to minus 6 on Sat night and 22mph winds on race day, I don't think I would risk the drive either

Rattler - no. it shouldn't have made you slower, maybe an off day or not as fit at this stage?

Clag - no, haven't done it, (same day as Dingle), looks nice though, I have a friend running it this year.  I believe it's road.

Not quite so cold today, had to take my gloves off for a while, dry underfoot so no ice but a bit windy.