Shades Marathon Training

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03/02/2013 at 20:01
Emmy great info. What kinds of thing would people leave for mile 17 pickup?
03/02/2013 at 20:33

I didn't stay for the Q&A - I had to get away, but I thought it was really useful and as you say we're lucky to have Shades keeping us focused and on the straight and narrow.

The nutrional presentation was really good, as were the morning sessions with the various Directors telling is what would be happening on the day. I love all this info, I'm like a sponge and want to try to take it all in.

The Yellings presentation was interesting as I felt they were almost covering training if you started now - whereas we've been looking at plans for the last 3-4 months 

Maybe the Golden Bond target audience are just a "get me round" bunch and we've got Shades plan to sort us out? 

04/02/2013 at 07:23

Thanks guys for all your nice comments

However, save your praise until I've got you over that finish line.   I have a standard advice sheet for your last week and race day which I paste on here periodically, I'll try and get time to paste it today

Khanivore - that's great news on your 8 mile run.   Now I don't think we should commit to paper (or laptop!) the remainder of your training to race day, I think we need to play it by ear and just use your own judgement re your leg/back and take each day at a time.

Don't run every day, only every other day giving your body plenty of time to recover from each run.   When you ahve your massage quiz her about that muscle and what stretches ec you can do to get it to heal.

Slowkoala - yes numbers you collect at Expo although you should already know what start you're at, green or blue are the best.

LOL at using the mens loos, funny business this marathon training, you do things you'd never dreamt of!

Emmy - I had the same with the headwind, it's so annoying and tiring.

and how many marathons have you already entered for 2013?

S3200H - great running.   I'm not of the opinion that 20 miles is halfway in a marathon.  

Rattler - LOL at the extra 2 miles and a tough course too.

Sofaboy - good news on the ankle.   I don't like gels at all, never use them.

 

04/02/2013 at 07:37
Shades, are green and blue starts for the GFA runners, elites and celebs? Not been told my start but as I just have a ballot place I'll be running with the masses won't I? Is this the red start?
04/02/2013 at 07:59
Khanivore wrote (see)
Emmy great info. What kinds of thing would people leave for mile 17 pickup?

There's been everything. I left two gels (for the rest of the distance), an electrolyte drink in a small 100ml bottle. I've seen beers, champagne, jelly babies, chocolate being left there.

Last year - I left them gin and tonic to say thank you

SHADES wrote (see)

Thanks guys for all your nice comments

However, save your praise until I've got you over that finish line.   I have a standard advice sheet for your last week and race day which I paste on here periodically, I'll try and get time to paste it today

 

LOL at using the mens loos, funny business this marathon training, you do things you'd never dreamt of!

Emmy - I had the same with the headwind, it's so annoying and tiring.

and how many marathons have you already entered for 2013?

 

Morning Shades

I agree with Khani - We're very lucky to have you. I credit you for my craziness I've seen a lot of others on start lines that have no idea. I still have your noddy's guide that I read before each race.

As for men's loos.... since i've been running more trail races - i tend to use nature instead of provided facilities.

OK... in 2013 - i''ve gone a little crazy Hubby has given me the pass to run this weekend BUT he's playing a guilt trip on me. It's my Birthday (so my excuse is: I can do what i want)... but his grandparents have organised a dinner that oh so happens to fall on my birthday (coincidence? I think not). So he's laying the guilt that i'd rather run a marathon than see them.

04/02/2013 at 08:20

Morning!
Emmy - I thought you were doing 'The Quad'?  Must of got that wrong!

Shades Noddy guide is brilliant. I sometimes wish I was doing my first marathon again, all that nervous excitment!
Really looking forward to hearing the outcome of all your marathons

04/02/2013 at 08:20

Slowkoala - you used to be able to tell which start you are at by your race number, I haven't done VLM for a few years so not sure that still stands.  I've only ever run with ballot places and have started at the blue start once and the red start 3 times.

Emmy - nicely sidestepped my question of how many for 2013....or do you not want to say.  

 You've got your ultra double this weekend, haven't you?   I've never done an ultra double.  I've done an ultra then a marathon, that's the closest I've got.

04/02/2013 at 08:21

Waves at VR  Supertone and Kettlecise tonight for me, how about you?

04/02/2013 at 08:23

Here is my pic from the 2010 VLM red pen start line....

http://s4.runnersworld.co.uk/members/images/465898/gallery/start_line.jpg?width=350

It looks worse that it really was. I was probably about half way in the pen, and took about 10 mins shuffling to get to the start line.  Some people started trying to run from back there, and I'm still not really sure why.

I don't know how my wife did it, but I managed to see her twice.  Once at the 13 mile mark (which was planned).  This is a good section for spectators as you see the runners twice and it is a relatively quiet area compared with near The Mall etc.  I stopped, had a little hug (and nabbed her Snickers bar) and shuffled off.  I then saw her with 400m to go; she had some how managed to get a spot near the finish!  I just remember stopping and whispering "I can't believe it.....I'm going to finish!", and I did shed a little tear I'm afraid.

One tip from me...get your name or nickname on your running shirt.  The spectators shouting "Go Big- G!!" helped me along a lot.  

In hindsight, I shouldn't have ran.  I've just had a look back at the pics, and I had both knees strapped.  If I hadn't been doing it for charity, I would have DNS'd.  It's for that reason that I wouldn't run for charity again...the fund raising just added extra pressure on what was for me an already stressful experience.

04/02/2013 at 08:24

Shades - are you able to you post your Noddy's guide?

04/02/2013 at 08:28
Valley Runner wrote (see)

Morning!
Emmy - I thought you were doing 'The Quad'?  Must of got that wrong!

Shades Noddy guide is brilliant. I sometimes wish I was doing my first marathon again, all that nervous excitment!
Really looking forward to hearing the outcome of all your marathons

I've been on the reserve list. There was maybe the only possibility for one day maximum. I agree with you, VR - I'm really excited to see how everyone does on their first marathon. I remember being petrified!

SHADES wrote (see)

Slowkoala - you used to be able to tell which start you are at by your race number, I haven't done VLM for a few years so not sure that still stands.  I've only ever run with ballot places and have started at the blue start once and the red start 3 times.

Emmy - nicely sidestepped my question of how many for 2013....or do you not want to say.  

 You've got your ultra double this weekend, haven't you?   I've never done an ultra double.  I've done an ultra then a marathon, that's the closest I've got.

I was also in the Blue Start (with the other ballots).... Um... if you want my honest answer-i'm not sure how many ive got this year 

So far - off the top of my head:

10th Feb: Genk
17th Feb: London 50km
24th Feb: Malta
6th April: Paris
21st April: Antwerp
3rd May: Bewl marathon
4th May: Richmond marathon (i got my place!)
5th May: Milton Keynes
Then it's Luxembourg, Giants Head, 

The London 50km is next weekend on Sunday so i'm nervously anxious about it as it's my first over marathon distance.

04/02/2013 at 08:39

Shades - I'm doing the Pilates course which is on the Monday at 6pm but I will see you at Supertone

04/02/2013 at 08:41

I take that back! You wont see me at Supertone! Monday is pick up at 5 day. Boooo

04/02/2013 at 09:04

Hi,

Tried my long run yesterday with my new paces… 12 miles can't begin to tell you how much better it felt. Thank you so much for your advice and help!

However as I reading all these posts I am coming to realise how little I know about the London Marathon, starting pens etc is all alien to me?!

04/02/2013 at 09:12

I did run yesterday, did 30 mins on treadmill and knee is no worse from it.. not keen to try the high impact of the road yet so rest and massage today and then see again tomorrow how its going

04/02/2013 at 09:29
Bootsie what happened to your knee?

Shades should I use the plan distances as a guide?
04/02/2013 at 09:52

no idea .. just ran one day and got pain in my knee cap that hasn't really gone yet.  just trying to rest up as much as possible between now and brighton half,, might be a week of using the cross trainer instead of running

04/02/2013 at 09:56
Ouch sorry to hear that. Hope you are better by Brighton.If you are at full health do you have a time goal for Brighton?
04/02/2013 at 10:11

I did have a sub 1 hr 55 goal.. so fingers crossed if i rest enough between now and then i'll be on for trying to hit that.. are you doing brighton?

04/02/2013 at 10:20

Thanks for the London tips, really can't wait for it. Was looking at tubes & stuff last night & it seems pretty easy to get to the start, I'll be getting on at Bow Church so about half hour to Cutty Sark & ~15mins walk from there.

That sounds good Khanivore, you'll fitness will come back soon enough just don't force it, get to the start line.

Big_G - Nice London report

Good running over the weekend for everyone it seems.

I did an 18miler 60/40 Offroad/road , some really gloopy bits which were fun but leg sapping. Looped back to the car at @~11miles for a gel/fluids/stretch then did another 7 mile loop, got back to the car a mile short so had to go up the road for half a mile then turn round! ...Felt really tired after 12/13 but then felt ok at the end, did the last 1/2 mile at marathon pace so pleased with that. 9:50 average.

Windy 5 tempo this morning, once I dragged myself out of bed it was nice out, so quiet on the roads at 6am so no hold ups with cars etc.Will see if I can do the same tomorrow morning for the 8 mile mwlr.

Big thanks to Shades from me as well, very grateful for all the tips/support. Learning all the time.

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