Shades Marathon Training

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26/02/2013 at 11:25

Emmy - well done for finishing what sounds like an awful race!

Bootsie - sorry to hear about your injury.  Like you say, it sounds like you need to rest up.

I mentioned a few pages back that I had been in touch with Amby Burfoot and the man himself has sent out a signed copy of his book.  I haven't read the book yet, but it arrived today and below is his message    I'm gobsmacked that he did this, including posting it himself (it's his own name on the postage label on the envelope).

He posted it out (without me paying) and he just requested me to pay him by PayPal when I received the book.

http://s4.runnersworld.co.uk/members/images/465898/gallery/img_0207_1.jpg?width=350

 

 

26/02/2013 at 11:28

@Emmy - well done for completing the marathon, it does sound like a bit of a shocker - but credit to you for keeping going - great work 

26/02/2013 at 11:28

Big G, that is just cool!!

Emmy... well done for finishing that race.. sounds hard work!

26/02/2013 at 11:33

Thanks shades, think I'll leave the Physio for now and just start doing some gentle calf raises etc for now and see how I react to that.

Well done Emmy, you finished & many would have given up. Does it count as an ultra as you did a little extra ? 

mamafox - Indoor bouldering is just like indoor climbing but you don't have any ropes/harnesses but don't go as high, you just fall onto big soft mats. Good fun & a good workout. Quite like the no faffing around with ropes/belaying etc, you just get on with it.

bootsie - sorry to hear that, but at least it's bruised & not broken so you'll mend soon enough...enjoy the rest.

 

26/02/2013 at 11:59
Emmy - sorry you had a bad run over in Malta. It's quite stressful having a strict cut off like that. Well done for toughing it out! Lets hope you can put it behind you and focus on the next one. Is there a running club near you that offer speed work etc?

Bootsie - what are you like? Hope it heals soon.

Big G. That's lovely for him to do that. Hope it's a good read!
26/02/2013 at 12:18

Big G - wow! Brilliant to have a personal touch like that! I enjoyed his article in RW last month, let us know what the book is like.

KK - indoor bouldering sounds fun! thank you for clearing that up for me

Emmy - that sounds like a complete nightmare.. Well done you for finishing!!

 

 

 

 

26/02/2013 at 12:25
Valley Runner wrote (see)
Emmy - sorry you had a bad run over in Malta. It's quite stressful having a strict cut off like that. Well done for toughing it out! Lets hope you can put it behind you and focus on the next one. Is there a running club near you that offer speed work etc?

The cut off was more of an incentive for me rather than pressure. I was thinking: Keep at xx pace and keep rocking along. When I went the wrong way and 5hrs flew out the window - I got more annoyed.

The only club local to me at home are a bunch of egotistical bar stewards who don't like anyone who cant run a sub 1.40 half marathon.... I'm trying to find a club near work and hopefully that'll be better.

KingKenny wrote (see)

Thanks shades, think I'll leave the Physio for now and just start doing some gentle calf raises etc for now and see how I react to that.

Well done Emmy, you finished & many would have given up. Does it count as an ultra as you did a little extra ? 

mamafox - Indoor bouldering is just like indoor climbing but you don't have any ropes/harnesses but don't go as high, you just fall onto big soft mats. Good fun & a good workout. Quite like the no faffing around with ropes/belaying etc, you just get on with it

I think so... i wonder if they'll accept my garmin reading!

Stretching is great - i find that calf raises are really effective for me.

Mamafox - I agree about indoor boldering. It's a lot of fun

26/02/2013 at 13:18

bootsie - that is bad news, did he say what's caused it?  You haven't been doing high mileage.

Emmy - well done, you had an absolute nightmare but still turned out a good performance and very frustrating to have gone off route too.   But in marathon running these things happen and they've happened to most of us at some time.

Right back to your training.    What date is Paris and do you have any more races before then?

You've done a lot (race wise) lately and that will have a negative effect on your marathon speed.   Firstly you need to recover from Malta, mentally and physically and put it behind you. 

Have you any niggles?   Have you done a recovery run yet to see how your legs are?

If you can reply to all that I'll write you a little training plan if you like...what about FF, don't want to tread on anyone's toes here

26/02/2013 at 13:19

Big G - nice one.  

26/02/2013 at 13:23

Big G - wow! that's really kind of him!

Emmy - well done on finishing, it sounded a bit of a shambles. The main thing is that that you're okay. You look good in the photo anyway! If you don't manage 4.30 in Paris, you'll do it in Berlin . They'd run out of medals? that's shocking really, they should always have some spares.

26/02/2013 at 13:23

Hi Shades,

I've not heard anything from FF. I was planning to send him a message to ask what's going on as I feel that I need some more support in the next few weeks.

Paris is: Sunday 7th April.
Races coming up: 3rd March (this sunday) 10 mile race (Brugge-Oostende).
Another possible race - 16th March - 12km 'city' run (not yet subscribed).

Niggles - just one in my foot. The guy in the store thinks its where I've tightened my shoes too much. Its a little tender but OK and it didnt hurt on Sunday. My hamstrings are still tight but with stretching it's helping. After Malta- my quads are a little tender (yep... it's definitely the quads this time).

I've done a recovery run of 4 miles this morning but my garmin packed up so I dont know average pace/time. I think it was around 45 minutes.

26/02/2013 at 13:24
bootsie wrote (see)

brilliant news shades!! go Emmy

well bad news from physio.. he says I have a bruised 5th metatarsal and if i run on sunday there is a 20% chance I will get a stress fracture

How on earth can you get a bruise on your metatarsal?

26/02/2013 at 13:29
marathon molly wrote (see)

Big G - wow! that's really kind of him!

Emmy - well done on finishing, it sounded a bit of a shambles. The main thing is that that you're okay. You look good in the photo anyway! If you don't manage 4.30 in Paris, you'll do it in Berlin . They'd run out of medals? that's shocking really, they should always have some spares.

I agree. They needed to plan better. I'm hoping that it'll improve in future years. I'm hoping that the break will do me good and i'll come back stronger.

How did you get on at the weekend, Molly? Did you feel OK on your run?

26/02/2013 at 13:32

Emmy - I'll try and put something together for you when I get home from work tonight.   OK for you to do your 10 miler on Sunday and if you want to enter the 12k go ahead, I can work round both of them.

Ice your foot, if you can.   It should ease in a day or so.

Back to work now

26/02/2013 at 13:44

Thanks Shades :0) It's much appreciated. I'll ice my foot later tonight and see if that helps.

Good luck at work... I have 4 hours of meetings and i'm going to hate every hour of it.

26/02/2013 at 14:12

Hi Shades, he said it was just a build up.  Bascially even though the orthotics help realign my foot they dont cure it completely and my feet are badly structured.  so the half marathon on sunday started it and then the two runs mid week just compounded the bruising on the bone

26/02/2013 at 16:19
Emmy, I really felt for you in your race report. Do you get asthma a lot when running? Must be quite scary and must have taken a lot of guts to keep going. The lack of medals is inexcusable as surely they would have known how many to order from the number of race entries? How frustrating as well to have to run over distance, I don't think I would have carried on to the end. But going forwards I'm sure you learn more from races with problems than from ones which all run smoothly.

Bootsie, sorry you've had to join the injury bench. So frustrating when our hearts and minds want to keep going but our bodies need to rest. Do you enjoy cycling and swimming? Hopefully the combination of cross training plus rest will make your come back even stronger

Early work start for me so no run yet. Knees feeling a little sore from long run on Sunday so will probably just to easy 5 miles tonight.
26/02/2013 at 16:25

Hi Slowkoala,

I've had asthma since I was a wee one so I know how to 'control' it and since i've been running it's not affected me as much. I do get wheezy around my allergies and I know that around certain triggers (e.g. cats, dust) - i'll struggle with breathing. This breathing was something like i've only felt once or twice. It felt like no matter how much air I was breathing - it was not enough for me. I tried controlled breathing techniques but I walked for around a mile by myself to put myself back in check - take my inhalers and keep moving. It's funny - but today - I don't feel any chest tightness like I sometimes do.

I dont want to appear negative about the race because there were a lot of positives but for me - that race was another hard one.... who knew marathons were so hard?

26/02/2013 at 16:31
Emmy, hats off to all of you lot who do multiple marathons. Not sure I'm ready to join you yet! I think 10 miles is my favourite distance still.

Big G, impressed with your signed book. What a lovely man he sounds. I can imagine Shades writing a book in years to come on running - you must have enough experience of different races and must have a lot of stories to tell
26/02/2013 at 17:27

Emmy - my 18 miler wasn't too bad, it's given me a mental boost that I can finish a marathon in 3 weeks' time.

Running home from work this evening and then 2 days of rest as I'm doing a course in Milan (and I've just checked the hotel website and they don't have a "dreadmill", I can't work out if I'm relieved or not

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