Shades Marathon Training

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22/04/2013 at 08:36
Thx Emmy. Hope the knee is better soon. How did you get to the race in the end?
22/04/2013 at 08:38
Thanks Bootsie I got your text before the race and it put a massive grin on my face I wanted to relly but it was hard to get a signal at the start.
22/04/2013 at 08:40
Khanivore wrote (see)
Thx Emmy. Hope the knee is better soon. How did you get to the race in the end?

Thanks. Well done again - I loved the VLM last year. I ended up with a tram - a bit of a long diversion but it seemed to work fine and I was there on time.

22/04/2013 at 08:45
Can I have my legs back please? and I can hardly walk today.

My calfs cramped up during the race yesterday, but all the aches pulls and pains I'd had during training were nowhere to be seen, which was great.

It hurt like hell, but was definitely worth it
22/04/2013 at 08:46

Well done everyone

On the way home from Wales we got all your results up from VLM website. We were so proud of you all. You had perfect weather, unlike us!

Khani - You will get that sub 4 no problem.
Emmy - sorry to hear about your knee. Well done in Antwerp

Recovery runs/walks everyone chop chop!!

22/04/2013 at 08:55

well done emmy and well done rattler! my jealousy has no bounds right now!!

still no running here but am ever hopeful.  Physio again tomorrow and dont think he is getting it completely right with the diagnosis.  Did two longer walks this weekend and pain kicked off again so swam this morning.. I am going to try a jog later just to see what happens... i nearly need to bring on the injury to figure out what it really is!

maybe a trip to the podiatrist is in order?!

22/04/2013 at 09:40
Well done to everyone who raced this weekend.

VR and Shades, sounds like you had tough conditions in Wales so well done for digging in.

Emmy, hope you knee feels better later. Is that an old injury?

Khanivore, Rattler and Sofaboy - you all have great race photos (I have a day off today so have stalked you!) I want to run it all again and remember to smile this time! I even look miserable at the end but i just felt like I was going to have a good cry.

Bootsie, what treatment is your physio providing? Is he giving you lots of exercises to do at home too?

When is the best time for a recovery run? Today feels a tad soon for me, but I did manage the school 'run'.
22/04/2013 at 09:40

Well done everyone fantastic running,  great times for your first mara.  Sub 4 will not be a problem next time out

Shades you need a big pat on the back for all the time you give to helping everyone

Hope the knee gets sorted fast Emmy


22/04/2013 at 09:48

slowK he isn't! I haven't reacted well to the exercises.. seem to be flaring up back spasms which are much worse.. the whole thing is causing quite bad sciatica so he has asked me to stop all exercises and limit any training i am doing.. so took 5 days off horse riding and swimmign then went back to them this weekend and it just seemed to be the walking that flared up pain in my calf and up into my hip.. really wierd.. the whole thing just isn't right!

I am trying not to stress about it because everytime I have had an injury it has got better but i really dont have a clear diagnosis or treatment plan which is starting to wind me up a bit! He just keeps saying its the nerve stuff with the central sensitization.. to me that really isnt' clear enoguh

22/04/2013 at 09:56

Well done all the VLMers!  It was great watching it on TV and I was tracking you all and a few club mates via the VLM website.  Also, the BBC red button had a facility where you could watch the finish line and I saw a few people I knew complete their marathons

Congratulations all on some great running!  

22/04/2013 at 09:57
One of the most inspiring moments for me was watching double amputee Richard whitehead run past us and getting a cheers mate as i cheered him on.
22/04/2013 at 10:00

I meant to say that I got a text from a friend last night.  One of his friends got to the VLM registration 10-mins late on Saturday and wasn't allowed to pick up her number, and so couldn't run.  All that preparation and training and then to get to the registration late is unbelievable really!

22/04/2013 at 10:06

Big_G thats terrible.. very bad form from VLM.. I'm all for planning and sticking to rules etc but you are right.. thats alot of training for something really silly


Iain .. he is amazing isn't he! It makes you reevaluate!

22/04/2013 at 10:13
Bootsie, I really sympathise, it must be so frustrating. How long have you had the physio for? I'm no expert but I know from my knee injury that it took longer than I'd hoped to get better (about 3 months for me). I never really got a proper diagnosis as such but did at least have an exercise plan that I could feel working. But I did have strict instructions to rest completely from running for the whole 3 months. Has it got to the stage where a second opinion might help, even if only to reassure you? Have they considered acupuncture, ultrasound or massage?
22/04/2013 at 10:25

I've been seeing him on and off for about 2 years.  I am keen to get a second opinion which was why I was thinking about seeing a podiatrist, she gave me orthotics about a year ago, maybe more.  Might be worth seeing another physio maybe. 

Like you, I wouldn't mind as much if i had a clear plan and new it would be 3 months all in but not having that makes it hard and I dont know if i am actually making things worse by some of the things i'm doing

22/04/2013 at 10:52

so, it all went quite well in the end.

after a slight delay i met up with KV and Rattler in pen 5, we had a bit of a chat with the 3:56 pacers and had a bit of slightly nervy banter. the silence for Boston was impecably observed and you could really feel the community spirit amongst the runners. as someone has already said, if you want to break the human spirit, marathon runners are not the group to try it with.

the start was fine. previous reports of slow first miles were not repeated and we got a good, clean getaway. although about 500 yards down the road, KV had to stop for a wee.

Rattler and I continued, keeping the 3:56 pacers about 10 seconds in front of us. KV rejoined us and all was going well until about mile 6, when we started to slowly drop back from the pacers. at the time it felt as though it was purely due to traffic , but with hindsight i think it was inevitable.

we lost Rattler just after that, although i'm not sure if he dropped behind or we did.

our plan had been to stick to 9:00 pace, with the extra 4 minutes in reserve for when it got hard at the end. but KV and I found that we were slowly dropping time after the first few miles. not a lot, a few seconds here and there. but they started to add up.

going through half way i knew it was going to be tough as i felt it a lot more in my legs than i had at silverstone. it was pretty warm and i was drinking quite a bit of water. this meant that i couldn't have as much fuel without starting to feel a bit sick.

i started to drop back from KV around mile 16 and didn't pick him up again until about mile 21 after he'd had to make an emergency loo stop.

i was going well until about mile 23. up until that point i'd still had hope of making a sub 4, just. but going through the tunnel at the start of embankment my legs started to cramp up and my feet really started to hurt. everything kind of compressed down until i was just totally focussed on moving forwards. apparently i passed almost within touching distance of about 20 of my friends outside the walkabout at temple, all hollering at me and i didn't even notice them.

i checked my run tracker as i turned into parliment square and noticed that it had me at just over 26 miles at 3:58. i decided that i was going to get at least one time under 4 hours and somehow found a bit more pace from somewhere. i almost stopped and cried when i pressed the pause button at 26.2 miles and 3:59.34.

that little extra burst had pretty much finished me off and although i didn't stop "running" at any point, i think on the approach to Buck palace i was going not much faster than walking pace. but it's true what they say about turning that last bend and seeing the finish. i picked up the pace a bit and went over doing a passable impression of a jog.

i stopped to pick up my medal and have my tag removed and suddenly found that i was pretty much totally unable to walk. that shuffle to pick up my stuff and then go meet Mrs Sofa were 10 of the longest minutes of my entire life. thankfully i had a really big surport crowd waiting for me at the Chandos with a pint.

a day later, i'm not actually sure how i feel. i'm stoked to have done it, although i don't think it's really sunk in yet. i'm not quite sure where to go from here. i've found that i enjoy running, but not the long ones, post christmas. but a lot of that could be down to the really cold, windy winter we've had. also Mrs Sofa is a teacher and has a lot of marking and lesson prep to do at weekends. that combined with a toddler to look after makes going for 3-4 hour runs REALLY disruptive.

so i may do another marathon at some point. but not in the immediate future. sorry KV, i'll be with you at Brighton in spirit. and if you do London next year, i'll be hollering at you.

i did really enjoy my ear

22/04/2013 at 10:55


i did really enjoy my early training though. doing speed work, building up HR thresholds and all that. and it would be foolish to have got to this level of fitness and just let it all go by spending too much time on the sofa. so i think i might do a few local 5 and 10km races. i've got PBs of 21 and just over 45 mins, so going sub 20 and sub 45 looks like a good couple of hard but attainable targets.

i'd like to thank everyone who's been really helpful and friendly on here. especially the lady shades herself. it has been a pleasure and an honour to be a small part of such a great little community, and i'm going to stop before i well up totally.


p.s -KingKenny, yes, that sounds like me in the white compression socks.




22/04/2013 at 11:02

sofaboy well done!!

22/04/2013 at 12:52

After getting only 2 hours sleep before the Brighton HM, was pleased to manage 6 hours sleep on Sat night (although did swap beds twice, felt like Goldilocks!). My parents gave me a lift to the start and amazingly were able to park on the heath. My dad has marshalled at the green start for years & his mate said I could start from there, despite having a blue number. This was all fine, but I did keep another top over my number until 5 mins before the start to avoid disapproving glares from other runners. Also meant I didn't want to risk leaving the green area to meet the other Shadies, in case I didn't get let back in. Saw lots of celebs like Katherine Jenkins, Iwan Thomas and Harry from McFly (the only eye candy) but was too nervous to take pics & wanted to save my phone battery. Think I was wise to refuse the offer to start in pen 1 when I saw the 3;15 pacer in pen 2 so made sure I was behind him! Felt v emotional during 30s silence for Boston and proud to be a runner. The start didn't feel real but felt easy and the first mile seemed short (probably as it's downhill, which Shades had told us). Went a tad fast in miles 2-4 as felt easyish but kept hearing Shades' warning in my ears so tried to reign this in. Felt quite teary eyed (glad I was wearing Shades) going past the Cutty Sark as I've seen this so many times on TV. Did the first 10k in 48:58. Feel very proud to think that I ran this time as a PB in the BUPA 10K less than a year ago. Next 10K was 49:02. Felt so pleased when it got to halfway. The strong sun made me very nervous as my last LSR on Easter day was sub zero temperatures and I never usually drink water on runs. Realised I would need to hyrate so tried to grab a bottle every 3 miles or so and just take a sip or even just to swill (and spit!) Took a gel every 5 miles although none after 20 miles as they made me feel sick. Saw my OH at 15 miles and felt quite strong. But when he saw me again at 18 miles he could tell that I looked weaker. Third 10k was 48;07 but fifth was 50:49. Felt quite exciting getting past mile 22 as that is the furthest I have ever run. By mile 24 I was starting to calculate whether I could walk the final 2 miles and still get a GFA time but managed to keep going. By mile 25, my Garmin was telling me my average pace was 7:59 so I just battled on to try and stop it going over 8. At the finishing line the clock showed 3:30 and a few seconds, but I knew it had taken me a minute or so to pass the start line, so I trusted my Garmin and gave it all I had. Finished in 3:29:18 and felt very tearful. I look so miserable in my finishing photo, probably because I was holding in the tears! Annoyingly, I had left my overnight bag in the baggage truck and it felt so heavy carrying it to the meet and greet area where I saw my family. I had a good lie down and a drink but had no appetite. My OH put me and two of my kids to get one of those bike taxis to Pizza Express on Victoria Street where we met some friends. Legs felt OK but when I got home I discovered two yukky blood blisters on each foot (one was HUGE and my son was almost sick).

Highlights for me:

1. The whole training journey and all the advise from Jedi Shades and everyone on this thread.

2. Hearing the London Marathon music at the start - it always makes me cry but felt much more poignant as a runner this year.

3. Seeing Iain with the Shadies banner and seeing members of my running club at the water station in Canary Wharf (although they all missed me!)

4. Seeing my OH at mile 15

5. Seeing David Weir again, but this time spectating at around mile 20.

6. Beating Harry, the drummer from McFly by 2 mins!

Will I do it again? I'm not sure today. I should get a GFA place but would only do it

Edited: 22/04/2013 at 12:55
22/04/2013 at 12:58

...if I could have a proper bash at getting a PB (Do you have a Level 3 plan, Shades?!)

I do feel like I need another goal so would love to shave some time off my 10K PB...just need to let those blisters heals first...

PS - Khani, saw 2 runners on the route with your Rolf charity vest on and couldn't hear any comments from the crowds!


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