Shades Marathon Training

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25/04/2013 at 08:31
Ill have to have a look. I don't remember seeing them last year but I'll check. I'm going to try so a 20 miler today as i still banned to Do a few more long runs cause i still feel i haven't done enough..
25/04/2013 at 08:34

Apologies, I editted a typo in previous message and it lost the course profile.  Here it is again:


25/04/2013 at 08:51
Khanivore wrote (see)

Ermm... I've just entered the Thames Trot 50 in Feb 2014. Oops

Lol and they call me crazy

SHADES wrote (see)

Emmy - I think you should rest....after all how far can you cycle before it doesn't impact on your knee.   You have to cycle 4 times the distance to equate to running, e.g 20 miles on the bike equals a five mile run, not worth it.   And you shouldn't race this weekend until you are injury free.   IMHO you're doing too many marathons too early in your running career.   OK as long as you're prepared for long term injuries and no PB's


Thanks Shades. I appreciate the feedback and response. I'm going to rest and follow the advice. I guess for me the difficult situation is knowing when to test it. I can walk on it fine and have been stretching/massaging it.

How many marathons would you recommend per month/week/quarter?

25/04/2013 at 13:25

Big G - ND is mildly undulating. So shouldn't be a problem. I would treat it as a flat marathon and not worry about the slopes

25/04/2013 at 13:33

Big G - you were lucky you didn't lose your wedding ring!   Good choice to have it adjusted now.

I think you should go out at ND at 9 min/miles and then ease up a bit if you feel you need to.   You should still get a great PB and hoepfully have a pleasant run.

There's a sharp hill too close to the start for my liking, then undulates.  I don't remember anything awful, but I may have just forgotten

Emmy - Everyone is different. I know quite a few that have done a lot of marathons in a very short time from starting their running, a huge % of them have also had long term injuries, sometimes up to 2 years or more out of running due to overuse in the early stages before their bodies have adapted.   Often these runners don't risk too many marathons close together after that but change their priorities to improving their times.

In an ideal world I would expect at least 5 years of a good base mileage of 30 - 50 miles a week (not including race mileage) before considering multiple marathons.   Doing marathons close together should also be built up gradually.


25/04/2013 at 13:41

Shades - I noticed the two hills within the first couple of miles at NDVM, which isn't ideal.  At least they will stop me going off too quickly

25/04/2013 at 13:53

Shades - I'm guess that i'm trying to be sensible and work out what I can do and what is impossible.

I don't want to injure myself and I don't want to stop running so I just want to have a sort of control on it and plan it correctly (I know that it's a control issue).

I love my running and marathons so much that I just want to keep doing it!

25/04/2013 at 15:22

I came across this the other day by a guy who is very quick and posted a 2:47 at VLM.  As this is my "main" thread on RW, I thought I'd post it in case anyone has thoughts etc.

Phenomenal improvement by him and it was good of him to put all that on a thread I think, so hats off to him for that.  Some of his times are eye-watering though and in fact I don't think I would ever get to what he did in his first Half (1:28). 

I thought I'd post it as a matter of interest really in case people have missed it.  Look at how many 20+ milers he did (13) in his run up to VLM!

25/04/2013 at 16:39

Big_G i just read his forum. wow talk about dedication to training and achieving the results...

I was so gutted about my run today. I had the day off and was going to go out and do a long run but i didnt bank on it being so warm. (makes me wish i hadnt complained when it was colder lol) Thankfully there was a petrol ststion along my route to refill my water bottles and try cool down. After stopping a little further down the road cause i started having palpitions due to the heat i decided to only run 10 miles . looks like tomorrow will be cooler so i can go out and finally do my 20 i have been attempting to do for ages..

25/04/2013 at 17:16
Big G, my dad wanted to run London Mara in the 80s and there were no GFA places then. He had to run sub 2:35 at Marlow mara which was his first one after only running for a couple of years, to get a championship place at London! Went on to run 2:25 at London but I never appreciated his times untilI started running!

Bad morning, 13 yo banged head at school and school insisted I take him to doc even though I could see he was fine. After waiting more than an hour, came out of surgery to a parking ticket. Now have loads of work to catch up with.

But good news is that I have a place in the Olympic Park run (5 miles) in July, can't wait kids v jealous so hoping they can do the fun run when registration opens on Monday.
25/04/2013 at 19:13
Does anybody know why sports drinks are not recommended for carb loading?
25/04/2013 at 19:50
Hadn't heard that S32, I has one every day when carbo loading as read in a few places that it's an easy way to get carbs in. I suppose if you have too many though, you don't have room for the slower release carbs??
25/04/2013 at 19:53
Hi all,
I went to the sports doc this evening. I've got a stain in my tensor fascia latae on my knee. Ice and rest and she said cross training is possible just to see how I am.

So I'm glad I have a diagnosis!
25/04/2013 at 20:07

That's great you've got some guidance Emmy. And you can do training - of sorts

25/04/2013 at 20:10

@SofaBoy - get booked in for St Albans, it'll be great!! 

@Khani - you HADD enough advice now (do you see what I did there?)

Get it booked too - c'mon 

25/04/2013 at 20:29
Big g thanks for that link. Amazing.

Fastkoala your dads time was epic!

Rattler lol you sign up for Brighton marathon and I will sign up for St. Albans

I've deferred the Thames Trot 50 to 2015. I think I will focus on getting an epic time at Brighton instead.
25/04/2013 at 20:44

Brighton - How much, link where, what, why, woop woop ???? 

25/04/2013 at 20:58
Khani, think that's a wise decision! Has anyone signed up to Brighton HM for 2014?
25/04/2013 at 21:05
I am signed up for Brighton half and full marathons
25/04/2013 at 21:09
Also-ran posted epic times for his first half and full marathons.... Not sure I can learn anything from the rest of his posts! He is clearly a gifted runner!
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