Shades Marathon Training

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21/06/2013 at 08:26
SHADES wrote (see)

I have no training plans for sports days, but you have to be ruthless and give it your all


I love your advice Shades!

SHADES wrote (see)

Emmy - good luck for tonight's marathon

Thank you! I'm working from home to try and avoid any 'stress' from driving etc. It's been raining a lot today so trying to work out what to wear :/

21/06/2013 at 08:56

Yes, good luck Emmy! 

Morning Shadies

21/06/2013 at 08:57

Good luck Emmy

21/06/2013 at 10:07

Good luck Emmy

Final prep for Torbay Half for me.  My sister-in-law (the person who I have a wager with on this event) is staying with us for the weekend.  I think I'll "accidentally" put the radiator on in her room and lock the windows so she doesn't get any sleep whilst staying here

I feel fine, but I got some cramp in my left calf and it feels a bit tender.  I've got a slow run after work today and I'm hopeful it'll fine, and I'll be doing some stretches too.

Conditions look okay, although the forecast does predict strong winds which won't be great as some of the course is exposed to the wind.

It must be serious as I'm missing my favourite beer festival of the whole year which is taking place this weekend.....

Time-wise, my course record is 1:55 from 2007 (which was my first ever event) and last year I struggled around in just over 2hrs.  I will be disappointed if I don't beat those times.  I don't think I'll PB, although I think I may need to if I want to beat the SiL....

21/06/2013 at 12:52

Big G good luck with the race!

I just listened to a podcast that scared the heck out of me. It was a talk by a pro ironman triathlete who is a trained doctor. She was talking about how bad endurance sports, including marathon, are for your heart and based on recent research is reconsidering her future in Ironman. I have only listened to half of the podast so far but it is very worrying.

21/06/2013 at 13:14

Emmy - choose your kit according to 'feels like temp', ignore whether it will rain or not

Big G - hope that calf is OK

You'd better feed your SIL a great big fry up at every meal too.

Khanivore - don't listen to any more.  It's only one article but it is a well known fact that running marathons etc over a long period of time enlarges the heart and runners are not immune from heart problems, especially if they run when they are ill or carrying a virus.   But runners are still healthier than non exercisers and  stats show will live longer.

21/06/2013 at 14:56

Shades, I hear you. However, her opinion is balanced in my opinion. The arguments I hear by endurance athletes generally don't make sense to me. Endurance athletes say that they would have died of a heart attack from being fat if they didn't do the sports they do so their odds are better doing what they are doing now. It's almost as if there is no middle ground.

The podcaster said that the heart condition a person who takes no exercise is likely to have is different to the one that an endurance athlete is more likley to have. There is a middle ground where you are likely to have neither. This makes sense to me.

Will I stop training for a marathon? No. Just like most smokers who know that smoking is bad for them carry on. However, like those smokers, I feel like at least I am making an informed choice. It is my belief that most people new to endurance sports (like me) are uninformed on this subject.

Here is the podcast for anyone interested in listening:

21/06/2013 at 17:01

Good luck Emmy!!!

21/06/2013 at 23:07

Khani, my dad is almost 70 and ran from his mid 30s to early 60s. He did a few marathons but mainly raced shorter distances (but raced most weeks and usually ran twice a day). He does have a minor heart condiion, something to do with irregular rhythm. Think he may have had regardless of whether he had been a runner. When it was first diagnosed he wasnt advised to stop running at all as they said it was good to stay fit. But his cardiologist has noticed that when he stopped running and took up cycling, his heart now isnt so large.

22/06/2013 at 00:29

it won't stop me running. I want to be the kind of inspiration to my twins that your dad was to you so that they can live active healthy lives.

22/06/2013 at 06:20

Khanivore - if it was that dangerous we would all be getting dire warnings from all about running marathons and ultras and we're not.  What your kebabs and pasties do to your arteries is likely to be far more damaging to your heart than running!

If you read an article on how dangerous it is to cross a road, no matter how cautious you were, you would never cross a road again.


Booked my flight to Florence this morning

Emmy - how did you get on?


22/06/2013 at 06:26

Shades good point

my back is starting to feel better. I got out of bed without having to roll on to my tummy and crawl my way out today! Tempted to go on a bike ride as its non impact (hopefully). If I do it this will be my first ride in many months!

22/06/2013 at 06:57

Khanivore - good news your back is healing, but don't do too much too soon

22/06/2013 at 07:02

Shades I was just thinking that. I think riding my bike today would be a bad idea. I'll let it hegentlemen more days.

22/06/2013 at 07:07

Is that your predictive text or a word I've never heard of ?  LOL

22/06/2013 at 07:16

Haha predictive text Meant to say I will let it heal a few more days lol!

22/06/2013 at 07:49

Good luck to Emmy, Big G and everyone else racing this weekend.

Big G, reckon you should hide your SIL's running shoes

Sending off little one to Beaver camp in the rain and going to see the Killers tonight at Wembley. Can't wait!

22/06/2013 at 08:16

Killers!!! So jealous Enjoy

22/06/2013 at 09:36
SHADES wrote (see)

Emmy - choose your kit according to 'feels like temp', ignore whether it will rain or not

I think I did OK. I wore a long sleeve top under my t-shirt and it seemed to work a treat after midnight struck. No rain but lots of wind.

SHADES wrote (see)

Booked my flight to Florence this morning

Emmy - how did you get on?


Night marathon completed last night and I'm still recovering. The wind was so violent (it was all open land) and it just felt like a constant headwind. I need to review the results but I really tried to keep within the pace. Am worried that i failed miserably  At Mile 20 I walked a little with a german guy that was struggling. He was in his mid 70's and said he was 'tired'. I really felt around Mile 23 that I was letting you down Shades because I couldn't keep up that constant pace. I know it was a mental 'beating' but I really felt bad.

Am really aching this morning and perhaps worse for me is that i had a really tough race mentally - so much so that i'm still a little 'bruised' mentally. I just got to a point and thought: be over already. I had a little mental tantrum and then carried on. On the second loop I chicked at least a dozen guys

Shades - I'm still trying to work on hubby to get to Florence this year - it's not looking likely as his friends are organising something that weekend

22/06/2013 at 09:45

This is the breakdown:

Only 9 miles were inside the 10second barrier.

7miles were faster but 10 were slower. Must. Try. Harder.


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