Shades Marathon Training

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27/08/2014 at 16:23

Mamafox - I'm sure that you'll be fine. Please let me know how La Rochelle goes as i've had my eye on that one....

On Saturday I ran my fastest two miles at that section as a friend running the half paced me in. We finished with 5min km's and i was gasping for breathe at the finish!

I've had the same criticism about running Boyska. 'He's a dog ffs.... and even better - a husky. He's born to run and we run at the coolest parts of the day normally on trail or soft ground. I cannot understand it.

Big G - I have regular check ups at the cardiologist every few years and last time i was there he showed me a picture of my heart 10 years ago, 5 years ago and now. He said that he doesnt want to see me anymore because my heart is stronger and more healthier. He wished all of his cardiac patients took as much interest in keeping fit and eating right as i did.

27/08/2014 at 21:30

No one has ever challenged me about running. If they did, my response would be short and not very sweet. Life is too short to have to deal with people like that. 

I had a heart scan 3 years ago. The guy told me that I was in the top 1% of people that he sees and that my heart was in 100% good shape. Happy with that.

Mowzer - Amazing running, I honestly don't know how you do it!

Emmy - are you at Kent Coastal on Sunday week?

27/08/2014 at 22:03

Sorry to hear about your friend Big G. It does indeed put things into perspective.

Not run yet but really feeling I am close. May do a very short 3 miles to see how things are tomorrow.

As I won't be running Chester now, is there anyone on this thread that still hasn't signed up and wants to? There are no refunds and I am unable to defer but apparently I can transfer my entry to another runner. If anyone is interested then please PM me.

27/08/2014 at 23:05

Mowzer, you continue to amaze and inspire in equal doses. Hope you are recovering OK.

Big G, really sorry to hear about your club friend, that's so awful and unfair. We had a lady from our club die fairly suddenly last year. She was topping many club races with her age grade percentage up until about a month before she died. We now have an annual 5k club race in her memory.

I had a bit of a scare this week with my health. Went to doctors yesterday and she found a lump in my breast. Ended up having to have a mammogram and ultrasound at the hospital tonight. Luckily all OK but I was such a wimp throughout, shaking like a leaf and almost fainting during the mammogram. Kind of puts my achilles worries into perspective though. I'm going to order a new pair of shoes tomorrow to celebrate! For once OH agrees that this is a good idea

28/08/2014 at 07:18
SK, I'm glad you had good news after your scan. Enjoy your shoes
28/08/2014 at 07:25

(((SK))) - that must have been very frightening for you (and OH), thank goodness you are OK.   I am impressed that your celebrations will involve a new pair of running shoes.

mamafox - I still ate sparingly during the race but was much better this time, I included some sweets with more fat in them as this seems to steady my stomach, most successful were the  Cadbury's fudge, although they're only 16g of carbs each I found them really easy to eat.  I also had some ordinary vanilla fudge and that went down well.  I bought some dried fruit, pears, peaches and apple as they are high carbs but I forgot to take them with me!   As an experiment I took a small piece of cheese as I know that can settle the acid and good if you wants something savoury, I bought the processed stuff that kids love as it was conveniently wrapped, it was disgusting tasted like plastic but it did the trick so next time I will take a piece of ordinary cheddar!

You'll be fine on 2 marathons in one month!

Emmy - be careful getting friends to run you in, disqualifications for pacing are not uncommon

That's brilliant news about your heart, you are a great example of the benefits of exercise

Moore - wow, top 1% that's brilliant.

Lee - such a shame you have to forgo your race but there will be another one and that sub 4.   Sorry won't get to meet you this time.

5 mile run today, toe joint still sore but probably a pain level of 3 compared to a 5 of yesterday.  Really warm and humid

28/08/2014 at 08:24

Big G - I've decided not to do the Ladies 10k on the 14th, I think this niggle I have in my toe joint will be sore again after my 50 miler on the 6th and not enough time to recover for a short speedy race.   I'm probably not in PB shape for a 10k either at the moment. 

28/08/2014 at 10:29

Moore - I wont be there. I'm next running a double 13-14 Sept.

((SK)) - well done for getting checked out. My mum was diagnosed in January with breast cancer so i know the importance of regular check ups.

Shades - You're right. I wasnt expecting them to run with me (as they were on the grass). I've tried cheddar before but i struggle with keeping it cool enough.

28/08/2014 at 11:30

Shades, no problems about the Ladies 10K.  Hopefully we'll catch up soon

I hadn't really thought about pacing people in before.  However, didn't Paula get into a bit of strife about that (getting paced by men), although she hadn't broken any rule that was there at the time as far as I'm aware, and she obviously ran the marathons herself!

I still think Paula is among the best athletes that's ever lived.  The fact that her record still stands where as the men's record gets chipped away at fairly regularly is testament to that I think.  When you read up about this though the question arises as to why aren't the Kenyan women (for example) now the world record holders?  Even the answer to that is complicated as there are social/discrimination issues in parts of Africa that restrict women from running, which people think has a bearing on it, whereas the men are unrestricted to an extent.  The book "Running with the Kenyans" touches a bit on this, as male runners are respected/encouraged (regardless of if they're earning any money or not) whereas the women runners aren't as much.

Regardless of all that, what Paula achieved is amazing I think.

Day off for me today and tomorrow  I got a 20-mile ride in this morning.  It was bad weather but I quite enjoyed it

Edited: 28/08/2014 at 11:32
28/08/2014 at 12:50
SK that sounded very scary. A relief for you. I went through something similar with my daughter earlier in the summer. The hospital was lovely and quick to reassure her. She felt life was starting again
Big G so sorry about your club mate.
Mowser I was gripped by your race reports. You are AMAZING!
Lots of other good running. Sorry I am not commenting on all.
I had some nice runs at my parents in Dorset. Along the river in Wareham then back along the walls. My hubby and I then had a lovely weekend in Amsterdam to celebrate his 50th birthday and our 20th wedding anniversary. We had a brilliant weekend, I love Amsterdam
Back to trying to fit my runs in around work and still having my children off school. Keeping my runs ticking over for the GNR in 10 days...
28/08/2014 at 13:14

Emmy - I hope your Mum is doing well.

Yes, I may have to put up with the cheddar getting a bit warm but at least the flavour will be better than the sweaty processed stuff I ate last week.

Big G - there are still EA rules enforced re pacing, and the Duchy disqualified a female runner who was paced round by a man a few years ago, she finished in 1st or 2nd place.   Although there are pacers in many races now, they rarely pace the whole event (for the elite) and for us lesser mortals there are pacers to the finish line should we choose to use them.   I think a true PB is one you run on your own at your pace.

I too agree Paula is an outstanding runner and I don't think we'll have such a good runner again.

I don't think the women have had the incentive to beat/reach Paula's record, whereas with the men they are chipping a few seconds here and there at their world record, the women would need to improve by nearly 2 minutes, which is a lot at their pace.  

Lily - glad your daughter was OK after her scare.

Gosh only 10 days to GNR!

28/08/2014 at 14:34

SK - That must have been a rollercoaster of emotions yesterday, I am so relieved for you that all is well. You are right, everything else pales into insignificance after something like this. Look after yourself (()) (And as Big G says.. enjoy those shoes )

Emmy - Well impressed with you coming out with 5min/km at the end of a trail marathon! How many marathons are you up to now? Are you still going for time goals or mainly focusing on getting the figures up? I know you love your running and from your accounts of your races it is obvious you are enjoying them too - I was just wondering what your objectives are.

I remember you mentioned your mum was ill. I hope things aren't too difficult for her.

Big G - That was an interesting link about world record/ world best. Minefield. Looking at Paula's figures like that makes me realise just what an amazing runner she is.

Lily - What are you going for at GNR?

Shades - Good news that you have found a nutrition plan that seems to be working. That 50 mile race is going to be a real test of that.

Having an unscheduled day off today. Bit of a twinge on the side of my knee. Have been clocking up a fair bit of mileage and yesterday had an extreme tempo session due to being followed by poxy horseflies (I am not joking!) Annoying but probably right thing to do

28/08/2014 at 14:54

Hi Mamafox,

I'm focusing in 2014 on doing marathons ive never done. So September includes a fancy dress one and a beer marathon! I do want to get to 100 but also want to enjoy the journey.

I hope that your knee gets better with some rest. I hate horse flies too

28/08/2014 at 15:20

A beer marathon?! Ha! - and a fancy dress one.... dare I ask?..

28/08/2014 at 16:06

((slowkoala)) - so glad your news was good - a great relief . Enjoy the shoes.

lily - sounds like a very nice weekend

28/08/2014 at 16:25
Thanks for all your virtual hugs and nice messages. Lily, I can understand how your daughter felt like she was starting again, it really makes your appreciate things and people more (well at least for today!) I feel very lucky and have a renewed respect for everyone I know who has been through cancer. Not ordered the shoes yet as can't decide between some racing adidas adizero adios 2s in bright pink and silver (already have in red and don't really need another pair yet) or some new Saucony's which I need. Hmmm.

Emmy, hope your mum is doing OK at the moment. Is she still having treatment? Your racing plans sound really fun - how many marathons have you done to date?

Mamafox, really hope your knee feels better soon. Hopefully you have nipped it in the bud early.

Shades, could you try freezing the cheese pieces so they don't melt too much when you are racing? Hope the toe feels better soon.

Big G, Paula will always my biggest hero in the running world (aside from Shades if course). It's such a shame that she never got an Olympic gold as her marathon record will won day be taken from her, although it is of course testament to her that it has survived so long. I read her book a couple of years ago and was really inspired. A couple I know were in the same year as her at Lougborough uni and say you could set your clock by her presence on the track on set days and times - even back then she was known for her dedication and discipline as much as for her talent.

Lee - really sorry to hear that you won't be doing Chester in October. Hope your achilles starts to improve soon.
28/08/2014 at 17:17

Slowkoala - she's finished radiation but in recovery. Its rather frustrating as she's quite stubborn and wont accept help (cant see where i get that from ). I've done 64 marathons so far. I'd go for the saucony

Mamafox - it's one in Holland that does a "theme" every year. This year its "once upon a time in the west" so cowboys. I'm trying to find a good outfit!

Shades - this may sound a little silly but have you got a mini cool bag? that could keep stuff cold whilst you're running.

Lily - welcome back and great to hear you had a good time

29/08/2014 at 07:15

mamafox - hope you didn't get bitten, horseflies are evil beasts

SK - have fun deciding which shoes to have

I can't freeze the cheese as I'm away from home, but I can buy cheddar in mini sealed portions so will buy one of the stronger ones, less likely to melt I think.

Emmy - I could only use a cool bag if I was doing a race with laps.

Congrats on your 64 marathons, any tentative plans when/where for your 100th?

BTW BM was so happy with all his Facebook messages at Longford, he kept checking his phone! 

6 miles for me today, pain in foot down to a 2 and the swelling is reducing.

29/08/2014 at 08:05
Morning all...
Emmy - 64 marathons wow . Just shows I'm still a novice at 4. Chester will be my 5th.
Shades - glad the foot is feeling better, must be a relief with your next race just days away.

Yesterday I headed out for a run and decided to bring my 10 yr old with me but on his bike so he could keep up.. Well I spent most of the run telling him to watch out for other people and to hurry up..extremely frustrating. At one point I got into a very comfortable section and decided to completely open the taps. I was running at 5:26/mile and I looked back and my son was wayyyyy back so I had to ease off otherwise I would of lost him grrr. In the end we did 10 miles and at least he did get back to the car. Think I'll take him out more till he gets fitter..
When do we get our race pack for Chester?
29/08/2014 at 08:53

Shades - Cathedral city do little packed cheeses. I've seen a colleague bring them over. They're roughly 10-20g per pack and lovely to snack on.

No idea about 100 so far. I was hoping it to be one of traviss's but i need to work out my calendar for next year. if everything goes to plan (touch wood) i'll be at 81 by the end of the year.

Iain - that's amazing pacing per mile. Its lovely to run with your son - did he enjoy it? Perhaps keep him to the shorter stuff until his fitness improves. I know my sister used to take one of her son's out for 4-5 miles on his bike but had to bribe him with an ice cream at the finish!

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