well done staffies , great job knocking off so much time!
Thanks Peter M
I know what you mean Gamebird. I don't like it when you can see the runners in front coming back the other way. Always seems to go on forever.
GM well done on a good PB
Kev sorry for your disappointment
gamebird- its always hard training in one set of temps to then have something so different on the day…you did well
JC Good result
Iluvstaffies good PB well done
Peter M-tough decisions to run or not..I'm always paranoid of doing lasting damage so any twinge I err on the side of caution. Goodluck
JR- legs haven't been too bad ( nothing like post marathon), managed a few 5 milers and a 3 mile recovery run and a 4 mile interval this week..NO LSR, may try for tomorrow or Tuesday. Didn't want to overdo it, as legs felt ok but in a weakened state so knew they could be susceptible to picking up an injury.
Happy running this week.
Parental duties sorted and I'm fed & watered, so time for a slightly longer report.
I'd been feeling a bit paranoid about transport, as there's no meaningful public transport from where I live to Cambridge on a Sunday morning, so I left a bit early to allow some time for faffing. As it turned out I found a space no worries and then bumbled across town to the race start and met up with my friends Jenny (budding ultra runner) and Alvin (of two week training programme fame.)
Tactical dilemma number 1; toilet tactics. I was aiming for a no-stop strategy in the race but the 2 pints of coffee I had over breakfast were ganging up on my bladder, so I headed straight off to the thunder boxes with the expectation of a swift visit just before the off. Which brings me to tactical dilemma number 2; bag dropoff. I'd have to lose nice warm fleece and face the bitter, er, winds. OK, not so much of a dilemma that one.
Having dropped our bags off, we saw the size of the toilet queue and decided that we might as well wait in them while they started the lineup. The timing worked very well and we made it over to pen 3 in plenty of time. After only 5 mins of waiting, we started to walk and then to gently jog and then the mass started to run down Victoria Avenue. Not having done a race for about 20 years and that was a school cross-country match, pacing and avoiding everyone else was a bit of a challenge but a bit of nimble dodging and it worked out OK. Then the field started to spread a bit and I felt like I could settle in to more of a rhythm; although I never quite got into the zone. The miles then just started to slip by quite quickly and the first lap of the course was over very quickly. The course was very clear; although I've lived near Cambridge for about 20 years, so I was never going to have any issues!
About halfway through the second lap (just after the 10 mile mark) things started to get a bit harder. I got to 10.3 miles OK. Getting to 10.4 miles took a lifetime. Getting to 10.5 took forever and an age! Despite this mile 11 was done in exactly 8 minutes according to my GPS watch. Miles 12 and 13 were quite hard too, but I'd got into such a rhythm I wasn't sure my legs were going to stop when I reached the finish, and they were done at 8:00mm pace too. Turning the final corner I was able to speed up a little and made it over the line before collecting my goody bag and finding somewhere to collapse quietly for 5 minutes.
Really hard work. Really pleased that I did it. Will probably do another. Thank you so much to JR, Kevin70, PeterM, RunningMax and everyone else who gave me good advice and encouraged me. Thank you and good luck to those who have yet to run!
Firstly, Kev - I'm shocked, thought you were going to achieve your goal. Don't lose heart, we all have bad days. Build back up and crack it next time.
Excellent results Gaz, GB, and ILS - glad you all got what you wanted, especially on such an inclement day... Thread prize to Gaz for his race report!
What are all of your plans now?
Peter - glad the foot is improving. Looking fwd to your report next week.
Cbo - seems like a sensible post racing week. What's your target for your next race.
For me, I joined my OH for a run. 3.25m @ 9:18. A good recovery, 6 runs this week.
40 miles planned and a parkrun debut on Saturday. Never raced a 5k so not too sure how to approach it. May set off at 6:30 and see if I can hold onto that. Aiming for 19:59...
Great results from everyone today, congratulations all! I realise some of you are disappointed to miss your goals, but from my 2:08 P.O.V., you're all winners!
I have to say that I was very glad indeed to have had my race in the cold drizzle last weekend, I bailed after 2 miles today as the sunshine was too much for me. My left foot has been playing up since my HM so I'm going to cross-train for a week or so, let everything settle down a bit, do plenty of stretching. Won't hurt to take it steady for a while, even though I'm desperate to maintain my fitness.
JR - your mileage and commitment are impressive!
Enjoyed my 1st HM yesterday (finished in 1:57) but I am trying to work out why my pace slowed down and I couldn't pick it up at the when I reached 8 miles. Up to this point I was close to my 8:24p/mile (1:50) pace. I am guessing it is just that I hadn't done sufficient Long runs in training as up to 4-5 weeks ago I was only running up to 6 mile max. I did build up to 13 miles in a long run 2 weeks prior to race but I am thinking now maybe I was asking too much to get a time of 1:50 ??
My initial thoughts after the race were I hadn't eaten enough prior to race (2 rounds of toast + banana 2 1/2 hours before race) and I should have drank an energy drink shortly before. But do you think this would have made much difference.
did you take any gels during the race? Had you carb loaded up the day before? did you feel hungry at about the 8-10 mile mark?
I'm seeing more and more the value of proper nutrition for the coming race, and in long run training. So perhaps some more fuel and either an energy drink or simple electrolight tablet in water may well have helped some. On top of that, a few more runs up and around or even beyond the 13.1 miles (at an easy pace!) would definitely prepare your body more to it. I think i may well be suffering a similar fate come this sunday , but then i'd love to get a time of 1:57 .
John - congrats on completing your 1st half.
It was probably a combination of the two. More LR's at around the distance would have helped you no-end.
A snack an hour before would've helped too. If it helps I had a gel 5 mins before starting and then one at 5 & 10 miles. Although try in training first as they don't suit everyone. A handful of jelly babies will also do the trick. Think I put down a bit more detail a few pages ago regarding loading or just search it.
Just think next time with some more LR's in the legs you'll PB for sure!
Mungus - Sounds sensible, a week off running won't do any harm at all. Unfortunately I have an all or nothing approach to life... going fine at the moment.
Thanks JR & PM for advice. I have never used gels but I will buy some and test them out on my next LR. My stomach felt very empty from the 8 mile point, so I think more nutrition an hour before and during the race would help next time.
What do you think the length of my next LR should be and how long after the race should I do it ?
Blimey, four days away on Exmoor and I've got so much to catch up on!
It sounds like the sudden temperature change made a big difference to performances. Hydration/nutrition also seems to have played a quite a role.
Anyway, well done to everyone who finished their half-marathon, PB or not, sub-2hrs or not . I totally understand why we get so hung-up on times and goals but really, just all that training and endeavor has value in itself, and we should celebrate having made the effort to get out their and push and try.
Kevin - sorry, its always annoying when someone tells you to look on the bright side. Hope you have some good running experiences soon.
Mungus - Cardiff, eh. Nice and flat. I heard that you need a good plan for getting to the start on time, its really busy.
Peter M - Good luck with the foot.
John - take it easy for a week or two. If your legs feel okay start back with where you were comfortable before the race and then build back up. Have you got any future races planned? Have a look at some training plans and work back from any future races. Try the isotonic gels as they don't need additional water.
4 miles for me @ 8:33 tonight with a few work colleagues. A nice evening for a run, great to start in the light, just looking forward to when it's still light when I finish.
Wonder what club night has install for us tomorrow, hoping it's not hill repeats...
I use TorQ gels (Bourne sports were marketing them as better then SiS ones) and they really do have plenty of flavour to them! going to take two with me for the race, probably take one 3 miles in, and the other at 8ish (which auto correct just turned to fish several times on the trot :P). but a snack before hand,.. hmm,. might take a couple digestive biscuits (chocolate of course ,.. or hob nobs,.. chocolate of course ), i read in another thread i think that their good if you need a little something before heading out for a morning run, and i've done that myself on occasions.
nice and easy run tomorrow, no more then 8km i think.
JR: embrace the hill repeats
Benign: thanks, hope you had a nice holiday (i;m assuming it was a holiday?)
foots still on the mend. The nurofen gel is working a treat. The little lump is still there, but any redness is gone, i think all the swelling is gone, and i think the lump is a bit smaller. don't think it'll effect me for race day at all now.
Peter M - that's good news about the foot. +1 for chocolate hob nobs before a race but I think you're right to reject the fish
Strangely, I can feel the excitement rising about the prospect of another 20 miler this Thursday. It must be like giving birth; your brain just doesn't retain an accurate memory of the worst bits or you'd never go through it again. Think I'll do the 'take train to Bristol, run back' thing - I had to bail out at 14 miles with knee pain last time so it would be good to finish it properly again.
Then I will almost be into my 3 week taper for the Paris marathon. I feel like a fraud about this because I haven't trained that hard (mostly due to injury) so I'm not as fatigued as I should be at this stage. I know that marathons are not really the stuff of this thread but any advice/thoughts on this would be appreciated. Its new ground for me
I am so enjoying the longer hours and hints of Spring. Its great being a runner at this time of year - I feel so super-aware of all these changes
PeterM and benignmurmurring - Chocolate hobnobs sounds like a genius idea! The perfect blend of simple and complex carbs in handy portion sizes.
Took all of Monday off and felt like some exercise today but didn't want to go for a run quite yet, so did a very gentle 30 mins on the bike at the gym of the hotel in Paris that I'm staying in. I'm planning a couple of very light 2 mile jogs over the next few days to see how everything's holding up after Sunday's effort. My left ankle and right thigh were both tender, but are starting to feel much more normal. I'm also starving all of the time at the moment!
In the longer term, I'm not quite sure where I go from here. I've no other races planned and we're moving into summer which is when I do my main sport, which is going to take quite a bit of time this year (running started out as cross-training.) One thing I'd quite like to try is the Borrowdale Fell Race, as I spend at least a few days in the valley every year and have seen the start/finish a few times, know the area and have a decent amount of hillwalking experience; however I think that it's probably well outside my ability range for the next 12 months at least. Maybe I just pick an HM and a full marathon in 2015 and work towards those for now. Thoughts, anyone?
BM - Do you feel an 18 ish next week might be okay? If you're feeling undercooked do you need a traditional 3 wk taper? Can anyone at your club advise. I remember doing 75, 50 & 25% of my max mileage as my taper! perhaps slightly increase the first couple of wks? Looks like another sunny day on Sunday so enjoy!
Peter - easy run go okay today?
Gaz - enjoy your achievement and take it easy this week. From my own experience not keeping up the running over the summer was a pig to get back into But I preferred playing cricket. If you can tick over during the week and then aim towards a oct/nov race it'll help you next year? How about a race at the end of April?
Really enjoyed club tonight - 8.25 in 1:00:50 with 6 x 2mins efforts off 2 min jogged recoveries. Distance was consistent at 4 x 0.35, 1 x 0.34 & 1 x 0.36 with the paces coming out at 5:47 av. Quite surprised with that.
7 miles easy planned for tomorrow & Thursday.
benign: thats the trouble with long runs, if you need to shorten them, you're generally not that close to home :/, bailing out 6 miles from home must have sucked. hope it goes better this time!!!
Gaz: just need another race to aim for. HM in autumn would be good, give you some reason to keep ticking over and increase as summer finishes.
JR: sounds like a very complicated run to me .
Easy run was good, just a simple 8km (did a little bit of exploration along a couple of paths i've been passed, but hadn't figured out where they went). had a brief stop near the end when there was a loose dog in the pavement, and i wanted to make sure the owner knew it was loose (the little old lady did know, "she likes her freedom",.. sigh,. ). I forgot to put more Nurofen gel on this afternoon (just one of the 4 a day missed), and it started to feel a bit rubbish by this evening. So still clearly something wrong with it :/, just have to keep gelling and hope he lumps go away! I've signed up for a local 10km race at the end of this month, will be interesting to see what my time is after all this HM training. I've got the rest of this week off from work now , plenty of rest available before the big day on Sunday .
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