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17/01/2007 at 21:44
sharkie

Some time your leg want to fly and some time they want to plod.

Daz

So you want to do a marathon.
17/01/2007 at 21:46
Daz,
If I wasn't a soft southern Serpie - like what I am these days - I would probably be an ard as nails Sale Harrier, as I am a Manc born an bred. Unfortunately my singular lack of talent means I don't think they'd have me. So ... lucky escape.

4 5k races in June and July sounds fab though. I would do them like a shot. Whether I would run like shot is another matter.

Ho hum I must stop being facetious.
17/01/2007 at 22:04
Tracey
They say that being able to run at lots of different paces is one of the things that marks out a good runner. So, as long as you can do something between fly and plod you're getting there! I was impressed by your club run. Was it hard work or did it just happen?

Kaz
What was your session tonight?

Garlic report
Whole cloves, as many as you like, roughly chopped seasonal veg vast quantities to taste, good slosh of olive oil, roughly quartered (or smaller) lemons 10 mins from end, herbs own preference. Roast the lot. No-one else will want many, if any, whole cloves of garlic so I get the lions share. Double yum. Dead healthy. No salt required
17/01/2007 at 22:08
sharkie

My club run just sort of happened.

But now I have a tight ITB. It was a very painful massage today. It is a bit tender so no running for a couple of days.

Ceal, is going to help me with my stretches at Serpies next week. Are you coming up to London that day?
17/01/2007 at 22:10
400 metres @ 6mph, 800 metres @ 8mph x 4
17/01/2007 at 22:16
Kaz

Well done.

17/01/2007 at 22:22
Kazz
On track, grass, tarmac or treadie? I assume treadie as you are giving mph rather than times. Do you just reduce the speed for the recoveries?

Tracey
Yeah, I have gone down to Hastings today for a week but will be back in London next Wednesday. Originally I wasn't going to run any last Fridays till March but I decided to make a special trip because of Hippo. However I now have to come back to London that week anyway so I can sit in a dentist's chair with my gob open but no talking for an hour. Oh joy.
17/01/2007 at 22:26
Treadie, Sharkie. Have to change it manually between reps - love to have a treadie that could be set to all sorts of wonderful sessions.
17/01/2007 at 22:31
sharkie

How will you manage a whole hour without talking?

That is great new about Serpies. Hope your OH is happy about it thou.
17/01/2007 at 22:33
LOL Tracey to the above posting:-)))
17/01/2007 at 22:34
Apparently if garlic is to do one good it has to be eaten raw!!!!
17/01/2007 at 22:45
Tracey.
I will help you with your stretches too and give you a bit of Pilates! It is the one thing I am good at.

Right. Me and Running. MEmemememememememe.
Didn't feel any ill effects from upping the pace a bit yesterday in the way that I did. So I'm encouraged by that. But I will keep it easy tomorrow - I know I need to keep the heart rate down to make the endurance gains - speed/endurance is my weak point. Perhaps it is for most peeps? Perhaps that's a daft thing to say because that's what distance running is all about after all..

Durrr.....

Ok. Tonight was the 4 miler along the sea front. In ten short days I had forgotten just how strong the wind is on the promenade. Cor! Didn't time it on purpose, but I did do the strides again although not for a whole mile as running against the wind was tough. Picked up the pace - probably too much - on the way back, but legs feel fine. I need to be cautious tomorrow. I did note that Chouette said one can feel the effects of pushing the pace too much a day or two later rather than immediately. Err- I should look back and check this really...

Anyway I will wear my HRM tomorrer.

Heart rate 65% or 70% for most runs? Or does it depend?



17/01/2007 at 22:51
Last words (for now!) about GARLIC.

I'm afraid I do eat at least two raw cloves a day! I tend to have a washing up bowl full of salad twice a day, and I garlic press a clove or two of the raw stuff into it.

You DO have to press it - even I can't bite into whole cloves.

it is a good job that - according to my dentist - I have excellent dental hygiene.

Apart from the one dodgy molar. Sigh. Perhaps the bone has been ambushed by rogue garlic?
17/01/2007 at 22:54
sharkie
you are so healthy
17/01/2007 at 22:59
Hipps!
Hiya. How are you? Although I hardly dare ask. I was just about to chase around the forum to glean a bit of info...

I have to be a bit healthy now as I had such a misspent youth.
18/01/2007 at 00:58
Tracey G - Don't YOU start!
If you all start ganging up on me to do a marathon, I will vacate this thread until the middle of June at the earliest...
<harrumphs>
18/01/2007 at 07:29
Daz - no need to harrumph. 8-)
sharkie said it right at the start: no mention of the m-word...

sharkie - I'll be interested to see what your average HR is. For a start, you could just run easy and observe, then take it from there. Or try keeping it below 70%WHR and see how challenging that is.

Chunks of lemon in the roasted veg is a great idea. I LOVE lemons and as you say, there's seldom any competition for them.
Not keen on raw garlic but I keep trying to add a teensy bit to my lunchtime salad. Half a clove is my max - easy to crush with the tip of a knife.

I have noted that the TV food programme ceal mentioned is tonight at 9pm, which is 10pm here - will I manage to stay awake? BBC2, I think.
18/01/2007 at 07:32
Daz
You are safe here. The idea is that this is an m... free thread. There is plenty of that long energy sapping stuff elsewhere. No no no no no no no - it's not energy sapping, it's probably a delightful skip through the daisies, but please - not here.

So Tracey: NOT HERE!
18/01/2007 at 08:10
Chouette
Crossed posts re That Distance.

The problem with the HRM is that I don't know my actual max. Andy tried to get it at the gym but we had problems getting a reading. Using various formula plus his actual knowledge of me, he eventually arrived at 135 for,I think, my 70%. Anyway he wote a couple of programmes for either the treadie or outside. To my shame I have never done them - although of course I do do intervals and I do try to raise my heart rate at times.

They both have spikes at 154. So the 30 min prog has 12 mins @ 135 then (2 @ 155 4@ 135) X 3 then 2 mins walk at 110. The 60 min prog has 4 and 6 minute intervals. He printed it all out for me but there's no mention of the percentages - just what he wanted me to do.

But he did say I should do most of my running around the 135 mark. So I assume that's the magical 70%. Also it might be relevant that Andy is convinced I am a sprinter and doesn't like me doing lots of long runs. He realises it would be daft for me to really train like a sprinter though. I have to be able to run distance else I will be Jenny No Mates!

Maths isn't my strong point but I will try and work out what that 155 is. 80%? My resting heart rate is 42.

It will be tricky taking readings today as we seem to have gale force winds here on the coast. Another 'exciting' run beckons....
18/01/2007 at 08:12
Morning all.

sharkie

How naughty was you in your youth?

My knee is stiff this morning. I was warned that it would be tender.

Daz

When is your next 5k race?
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