Talkback: Win the ultimate spring marathon experience

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09/12/2010 at 17:25
You'd do great with coaching Jane! And yes on retrospect I think RW were just naughty about the groups really.
09/12/2010 at 17:28
I wondered about the groupings.  My group was 4.30 or slower.  But there is no sub 4.30 catagory.    It all seemed a bit arbitrary. 
kittenkat    pirate
09/12/2010 at 17:36
jane326 wrote (see)
Yes - I got a ballot place for London so either way i'm running a marathon in April Would rather professional coaching but failing that ill still try for sub 3hrs 15 mins im really interested in trying an ultra - whats the furthest you've run?

52.4 miles, but that was straight after swimming 4.8 and cycling 224. I was pleased with my run though.

kittenkat    pirate
09/12/2010 at 17:38
knight rider wrote (see)
kittenkat wrote (see)

I wish there was a bit more info about running history and pb's in the info about the 16.

I'm with someone on another thread that, on the scarce info we have, it looks like only one of the sub 3 is being realistic.

I'm going to wait and do what I always do, vote at the 11th hour.

I agree with you on this one KK
If we are talking PB's, here we go:

3 miles: 18.08
5 miles: 30.36
10k: 39.34
half marathon: 1.25.26

I think a list of more PB's on the voting list would help to make up some peoples mind for the voting process. My half PB is not translated to my marathon PB - something I really want to address!

Vote Knight Rider for the sub 3.15 category!

Yes, I have the same problem re translating half to full speed, if we can all come to the magical formula between us I'll buy a round.. or 3!
09/12/2010 at 17:39
OMG are you serious? I must talk to you about this
i want to try triathlons and have noticed a few on this site have experience inc B&B
Will email you direct...
kittenkat    pirate
09/12/2010 at 17:45

Ok, no worries, running has a dark side.. It's called swimming, the bike is ok

There are lots of people here who have done tri, and a lot of help given to anyone who needs it.

09/12/2010 at 17:55
Blisters and beer wrote (see)
kittenkat wrote (see)

I've just noticed that one of the hopeful sub 3 has a pb of 3.27.... How even with the wind up your arse is that going to happen??

Unless there's something significant that we don't know, like he can run a 1.15 half.


I thought that might be a bit unrealistic too. It's a shame they haven't provided other PB times. TBH I think there's only really 1 candidate in the sub3 time band that has a realistic chance of making it. The difference between 7+ and sub7 minute miles is large, to say the least.

That'd be me then...

Now, I know that I'm probably going to be the subject of much derision, but the sub-3:00 estimate is perfectly sound as it's the target that I have set myself. The Asics Pro Team obviously think that I'm capable of achieving it otherwise they'd never have let me get to this stage of the competition.

The estimate is based on the rate of improvement that I've made over the past 20 months and the amount of training logged per month. In the space of 20 months I have reduced my 10K PB from 54:15 to 39:51, my Half Marathon PB from 2:05:56 to 1:27:40, and my Marathon PB down from 4:58:09 to 3:27:15. Huge chunks of time, I'm sure that you'll agree; so why should I not be able to continue along this same vein?

Now, I'm no fool, I know that it's a big ask for me to knock another 28 minutes off my Marathon PB, but I'm 100% dedicated to the task & I will break the 3 hour barrier this year, either at Paris or in another race, of that I'm certain. It's not a matter of whether I can do it, but when I will do it.

Mentally I am ready, and I am prepared to follow the training plans to the letter and train harder than I ever thought possible in order to achieve my goal... If I win this competition, the pleasure for others will be to be able to read my blogs & follow me on a voyage of self-discovery. And at the end of that voyage you'll be able to look up from your computer screen & say "Well I'll be damned... He did it!"

09/12/2010 at 18:02
Sue C  I was tempted to reply in the same vein until I saw your post. Bloomin' cheek.
09/12/2010 at 18:04

Hi all - just caught up on the aternoons posts - AL & Soup re the time categories / group categories at bootcamp, i too am puzzled as to why 3:45 isn't just considered sub 4 rather than there being "no sub 3:45" group - random and uber irritating for you I imagine AL? Soup we were in the same group and i too assumed that our finalists category would be sub 4:30 so am also confused that my category is sub 4:15 - i'd put down target time of 4:18 but wanted some guidance as to whether this was an appropriate target time whether i could target slightly faster - i'm hoping the three minutes shaved off won't be my nemisis if by any miracle i make the 6!

 Soup - i've got three faces from bootcamp floating round my head and i don't know which one is you - but it was lovely meeting all three - one of which was you!!

(Running Rox - Sub 4:15)

09/12/2010 at 18:08

OK, some numbers for  you

5K = 26.58
10K = 53.59
10 miles -= 1.31.30
Half mara = 2.02.06 (20 sec to cross the line btw)
20 miles = 3.15.40

09/12/2010 at 18:13
williambloke wrote (see)

 If I win this competition, the pleasure for others will be to be able to read my blogs & follow me on a voyage of self-discovery. And at the end of that voyage you'll be able to look up from your computer screen & say "Well I'll be damned... He did it!"

Congratulations on your progress, but I'd be a bit wary of posting in that vein, it may not go down too well.  Comes across as slightly arrogant, but that's only MHO, of course.

09/12/2010 at 18:17
williambloke wrote (see)

The estimate is based on the rate of improvement that I've made over the past 20 months and the amount of training logged per month. In the space of 20 months I have reduced my 10K PB from 54:15 to 39:51, my Half Marathon PB from 2:05:56 to 1:27:40, and my Marathon PB down from 4:58:09 to 3:27:15. Huge chunks of time, I'm sure that you'll agree; so why should I not be able to continue along this same vein?

Because, by that reckoning, you'll have the marathon world record in 5 years! In all seriousness, it would be amazing if you could do it. What sort of mileage do you run now? And may I ask why your 1st marathon was so much slower in comparison to your PB? Have you run a marathon in between the 4:58 and the 3:27?

09/12/2010 at 18:22

Evening all,

AL - I'm gutted you're not here with us. Was much fun on Saturday - the three laydeez in the "quick" group, trying to keep our lunch down on that session at about 2pm! Have you got anything in the running, no pun intended?! Anyway, I hear you're an ironwoman - am pondering IM France next year, so please let me know any top tips/thoughts/regrets?!??

Jane326 - congrats!!! As predicted, fell asleep in the theatre on Saturday night! Hope you had a good one.

Oooh - I really would like the coaching! Also, just read the article on traithlete's world website about how cake is ever more appealing in the darker days... So true! Need that nutritionist sitting on my shoulder saying "put the cake down"!

Now off to a work shindig - will be more like "put the glass down"!!

09/12/2010 at 18:25
Kryptonite! Hurrah - you're in! i knew you would be
well done you!
cheers and speak soon
kittenkat    pirate
09/12/2010 at 18:29
williambloke wrote (see)
Blisters and beer wrote (see)
kittenkat wrote (see)

I've just noticed that one of the hopeful sub 3 has a pb of 3.27.... How even with the wind up your arse is that going to happen??

Unless there's something significant that we don't know, like he can run a 1.15 half.


I thought that might be a bit unrealistic too. It's a shame they haven't provided other PB times. TBH I think there's only really 1 candidate in the sub3 time band that has a realistic chance of making it. The difference between 7+ and sub7 minute miles is large, to say the least.

The estimate is based on the rate of improvement that I've made over the past 20 months and the amount of training logged per month. In the space of 20 months I have reduced my 10K PB from 54:15 to 39:51, my Half Marathon PB from 2:05:56 to 1:27:40, and my Marathon PB down from 4:58:09 to 3:27:15. Huge chunks of time, I'm sure that you'll agree; so why should I not be able to continue along this same vein?


How long have you been running and (more pertinently) have you been entering races?
kittenkat    pirate
09/12/2010 at 18:32
Blisters and beer wrote (see)
williambloke wrote (see)

The estimate is based on the rate of improvement that I've made over the past 20 months and the amount of training logged per month. In the space of 20 months I have reduced my 10K PB from 54:15 to 39:51, my Half Marathon PB from 2:05:56 to 1:27:40, and my Marathon PB down from 4:58:09 to 3:27:15. Huge chunks of time, I'm sure that you'll agree; so why should I not be able to continue along this same vein?

Because, by that reckoning, you'll have the marathon world record in 5 years! In all seriousness, it would be amazing if you could do it. What sort of mileage do you run now? And may I ask why your 1st marathon was so much slower in comparison to your PB? Have you run a marathon in between the 4:58 and the 3:27?

Yes by that formula I predicted that I would be running with the elite women at London in 2012

But I'm thinking that he's very new to actually racing, which could make sense kinda....

As we all drop big times in the toddler stage... then hit a wall.

I'm all for any underdog achieving, but if it's pie in the sky then no....

09/12/2010 at 19:27

blimey, lots to catch up on in 24 hours

going back a few pages here - wiolQn - red round bubble on Xmas tree, thank you for the best wishes!

yes i am surprised that the pbs from the application forms were not included within each finalist's profile.  i guess RW thought that the stats don't tell the whole story.

my stats, should you like them -

5k, 20.05 (brueton parkrun, 2010); 10k, 44.37 (frampton 2009); half, 1.38.58 (tewkesbury 2009); full, 4.14.08 (stratford 2010)

other than stratford, i've done one previous marathon (london, 2007).  i've been running for 5 years now, i try and do about 4 halfs a year but i like to try and mix it up and since the summer i've been working on my 5k.  i'm so close to sub 20.00 - it will be a very special day when i make 19 something!!  i would like to think that this will help me when i get back to the marathon training.  my stratford run this year just didn't go well for me (the greenway....say no more) and i'm keen to get that one out of my system and get the elusive 3 down in my stats book! 

good luck to everyone, esp bexie and alex in the sub 4.00 category.

M...eldy    pirate
09/12/2010 at 19:34
Have we actually seen all 18 shortlisted on the forums yet?
09/12/2010 at 19:41

Don't think so.

Anyhow, I don't have to look any further, I'm voting for Charlie.

Edited: 09/12/2010 at 19:42
M...eldy    pirate
09/12/2010 at 19:42
Hmmmmm  
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