I spent last year trying to get my HM pb to under 1:30 with training totally on roads, and a mix of speed work / steady runs-1100 miles in total.
Got a 1:34 in August then increased millage and speed and got injured.
I am trying a new approach this year-I found I really like trial running, I live close to the peak district and there are great trials to run on here.My most enjoyable sessions at the moment is a dark night / head torch and my dog with flassy collar-we do 9 miles big hills but at a slower pace compared to road running-but it feels bloody hard!! especially with the mud.
What impact do you experianced runners think this will have on my pb's.
Previously I was to anal about my training would not take our dogs as time putting leads / off on would mess up my average pace, would not run off road as opening field gates / climbing stiles would do the same!! My injury at the end of last year was quite bad and lasted many weeks-was worried for a while I would not be able to run again- so this got me to reconsider what I was doing.I now love running again but most of the time opt for a off road run.
My aims for this year were
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Have just got in from a 9 mile run around ringinglow/whirlow all trail apart from a few hundred yards from my front door to Bingham Park-fab run-what was I doing all last year with just road running!!!
Walked at stanage at the weekend-very muddy maybe a bit to heavy for a novice fell runner like me to try with head torch-but its starting to freezing now which will firm it up so maybe tomorrow..
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5k under 20mins currently 20:3010K under 42 mins currently 42:55and the HM as I said above.I also want to move upto a full marathon would like under 3:30So the point of this rambling post is what is likely to happen to my times as I spend more time off the road-these runs feel every bit the effort of a quality road session with HR in zone 4-5.Shall I give up the idea of reducing my pb's and just enjoy the running or will these off raod runs help my pb's?
think I have just worked out the problem with my original post.
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Oh yes - ended up with several posts in the Hadd thread like yours same reason, I figured it out in the end.
I'm not quite in your league of times (you've a couple of minutes on me; 3 at 5K and 10K, and 12 min at HM) - anecdotally I found running offroad/trails much better for me regarding injury (notwithstanding the risk of twisted ankle from going over on a stone), perhaps less repetitive strain as different muscles in use on the different terrain and gained a lot of leg strength due to effectively hill training on each trail run (hilly area where I live).
I train mostly offroad because I like it and enjoy it more. Hills come with territory. I'd say give it a go, but chuck in 25% of roadwork and speed to sharpen up - you need to get used to turning your legs over fast for longer periods. You should probably race a bit too where you're not so bothered about the result to work on your speed. Hope this helps.
It's all running but from a purely training benefit I think if you want to race on the road then 90% of your running should be on the road or at least fairly easy off road tracks just as you wouldn't see fell runners expecting to do well off a diet of road training.
I think the same with hill reps to an extent - people think they are good because they are hard - but running with a backpack is hard it doesn't necessarily make it good training for a road 5k or whatever. Not saying there aren't some benefits but it's the icing on the cake rather than being key sessions.
I think you'd be better off with most of the running on trails. You legs and feet are constantly at slightly different angles and the strengthening gives a protective effect in the long term, cf flat tarmac, not to mention the reduced jarring and pounding. It can be tricky fitting intervals or threshold work off-road without increasing the risk of tripping too much, so those could do for a bit of road work.
It can be hard to get the effort level right based on pacing, so I switched to HR-based effort a long time ago, so that I could keep to the desired effort for the outing pretty much regardless of climbing or the conditions underfoot. Also, a HR monitor with GPS gives you the option of a breadcrumb trail to retrace your steps should you get a bit too adventurous and start to get lost on trails
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