Tuesday 23rd October 2012

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23/10/2012 at 06:21


Todays lyrics:''Welcome to your life.There's no turning back.'

What: An easy run today

Why: Recovery from Fartlek.

Postie: Well done on your race at weekend

RFJ:Good training yesterday.

Still to fully catch up.

Back later.

23/10/2012 at 06:50


NN- that was only my second time under 3.45 but I mostly do triathlon as I have a bad tendency to break if I run as much as I'd like to and if I try any 'quality' sessions so it's mostly Z2 miles and more Z2 miles (I train to HR) and use the turbo for interval and threshold work. Do you run with a club?

Alehouse - are things any more comfortable? No PB for me but thank you RFJ. You are training very sensible. Enjoying the lack of travelling?

Sunday made me realise how much I miss running races and there is a half marathon on at Shakespeare Raceway on the 17th November - not too far to drive and a social course. Not likely to be in any state to PB but it would make me run faster than on my own - lots of recovery time between now and then isn't there?

What:           nothing
Why:            trying to be sensible/specialist dentist
Last hard:    realising I hadn't PBd
Last rest:     22/10

Lyrics - familiar.

23/10/2012 at 06:53

Morning LMH

Right need to get organised.

23/10/2012 at 09:37

Ale - got MRI last year and thers a disc issue which is squeezing the nerve a tad. Dont want to go down op road. Resting now to get better. I've been to GP and an osteopath. I need to get back doing something and swimming it will be when i feel ready.

The opinions are that the cycling may be causing my problem due to a bad position on the bike. Leaves me fairly f**ked for my Tri Plans!!!

I do feel improvement by the day.

I will be back!!  

23/10/2012 at 10:21

Another bright morning here

what: probably just Badminton session this evening
why: no half day today
last hard: Sunday
last rest: Friday
Lyrics: no

LMH - go for it!
Paddy you will be back

23/10/2012 at 10:44

morning all
LmH - go for it, you would have recovered sufficiently, just dont set yourself a time...
NN - good to see you popping in again! Keep us posted with the training though. And yes, think its AF you were recalling!
what - club night, not sure whats on the agenda
why - Tuesday
lyric - possibly

23/10/2012 at 11:53

aww Paddy, that sucks . I wouldn't go down the op route either if there was another way. Fingers crossed you get yourself sorted.

NN: great to see you back

LMH: go for it. You may surprise yourself. Lots of people PB a few weeks after having run a marathon. I think it's down to all that aerobic fitness you gain whilst marathon training and being mentally chilled because the big one is out of the way. I am planning a 10k on Sunday ...  however, weather looks dreadful so I may wimp out in the end.

postie postie wrote (see)

Chick I generaly peak at around 50 to 60 per week which may last for about a month but keeping that focused is quite hard.

Bugger, postie. I had hoped you was gonna say 100 mpw ... (like that girl they interviewed on Marathon Talk last week). It would have given me an excuse coz I'd break down if I tried that . You clearly have loads of talent.

23/10/2012 at 12:13


Paddy: a couple of things...I'd see a second osteopath; when I damaged my neck without realising it when I broke my shoulder I had an injection between the vertebrae which did the trick, i.e. stopped the nerve being compressed (I think!); ...and you will be back! (Just like me!)

Chick: sometimes we have to look beyond mileage...a postman might, for example, be doing a further x miles delivering letters, or on his feet sorting etc; as a teacher quite often I don't sit down at all for up to 8 hours, or perhaps briefly at lunch time; a builder or farm labourer may do lots of physical work (we might call it "cross training"!)...all of these examples may have a positive (or negative) effect on running.  As a student I used to work 12 hour shifts in a shoe warehouse...very physical and too tired to run most of the time: guess what, I got fitter! Running is a very complicated game, isn't it!

Medical update: the patient is not happy today. Just been to see nurse at my docs. Upshot is that I have a bacterial skin infection and would be on antibiotics but for the fact that the pharmacy has run out of ethromycin, of all things. Am being brought some this evening. Happy days!

Lyrics: no!

Yesterday's were Joe Cocker's version of A Little Help from My Friends (The Beatles version seems to have one word different in the first line!)

23/10/2012 at 12:25


Alehouse - I never knew that  

LMH like has been said Go for it


What: a run don't know know how far
Why its what i do
Last Hard 13th Oct
Lyrics not today

23/10/2012 at 12:36

ale: oh man, you clearly had enough ailments! Fair point on phyical work contributing to extra mileage. As a translator I sit on my behind all day and don't get about much. My peak mileage weeks are around 70-75. Anymore and I either end up injured or ill (tried it twice ). I do like lots of miles though  

23/10/2012 at 12:39

can't edit that typo

23/10/2012 at 12:43

Chick: I seem to get ill resting on my bed!

23/10/2012 at 12:54

afternoon all

welcome back NN!

Agree lmh,. go for it

did a nice solitary run last night, easy 5 miles, music in my ears, on the roads.  Just so nice

what: dont know

why: had a funny head since flashing eyes last night so most sensible would be  nothing

last hard: last night

last easy: sunday

have a good day all

23/10/2012 at 14:59

Sorry to hear that Alehouse.

Wabo - hope the head is now better.

Chickadeee - I couldn't even dream of doing the mileage that you do. Did manage a few weeks around the 45 - 50 mark this time round but it was all easy miles.

Just in the short gap between work and dentist - joy - but have managed to get an appointment with smt for tomorrow morning which is pain I'm more wiling to tolerate!

23/10/2012 at 15:26


Than ks for welcomes back

Oh yes AF that was him I met him briefly at the Duchy 20 a few years ago he was in the top 5 or so.

LMH  I am lucky and enjoy and can handle high mileage , the schedule I will follow peaks at 70 miles .

I realise  for me how important a structured plan is, I havent done a marathon this year as my last experience at VLM 2011 wasnt nice !! I missed quite a bit of training in the January and threw myself back into high mileage after a chest infection ignoring warnings to reassess my target of 3.30 and completely fell apart after 15 miles and gradually saw my time slipping away..ended up just over 4 hours and hating every step of the way. I do belong to a club but find due to my shifts ( the hint is in my forum name ) hard to get there oe than a couple times a month max. I tend to do most of mu running late afternoon after sleepin off my shift and before going back for the next like today.

As for the extra time on feet adding to mileage , its is fairly quiet on my ward so I do spend alot of time sat down over night, and although I will happily run for miles, if I go shopping and cant park right outside the shop I want to go in and have to walk I get really annoyed .

Not sure if the overall lack of sleep affects mu running/racing or not as it is all I have known for over 20 years 

What : 8 miles in 72 mins

Why :  Just ticking over really

Last hard : Sunday 21st

Last rest : Saturday 20th

23/10/2012 at 16:05


Did 4.43 miles in the end

NN 6 years for me and i find myself nodding my head at everything you say. Sometimes i find i race better when a bit tired  but this is usually 10km max probably be a different kettle of fish for longer races

I detest shopping i just want  to get what i want and get out or at least sit down and have a bite to eat and/or a drink

I sleep first after a shift then run tried it once and felt my legs were going to snap


23/10/2012 at 17:11

Evening all.

What: a lot of driving
Why: my route to work was very busy so clocked up 120 miles round trip today!
Last hard: my car seat!

Hello NN

Go go for it LMH

Ale sorry to hear there are more troubles. You really deserve to get better right now!

Have a good one all

23/10/2012 at 18:32

Evening all, no idea with the lyrics today.

LMH as everyone else has said, reckon you should go for it, sure you'll be fine and no doubt carrying across your marahon fitness.

Ale, hope you're feeling better soon

Emzap, know the feeling with the long journeys... been working locally recently, but did years of a 3 hour drive just to get to work

Hi NN! I'm fairly new, well only just stopped lurking!

Today my What is gonna be mostly chilling after a hectic day at work will make up for my laziness tomorrow...

23/10/2012 at 19:50


What only work
Why will be in recovery til after half term.
Lyrics No

On the work thing, I have never included it as training but Gobi always thought that I should. I remember reading on Marigolds blog that he thought that his recovery post race improved after he started working as a postman so I reckon theres something in it. These days I probably only walk about 4 to 5 miles on delivary but in the past I used to walk 7.2 miles perd ay often 6 days a week. I think my next challenge will be to sustain an even pace especially through the last 20% so I will need to do one or two more longer runs on weekdays to build up stamina. Maybe I ought to start reading up on these things, PD for the christmas stocking!

23/10/2012 at 22:08

Yes if on feet, I know when out on track for a day walking on ballast I would struggle with that session at night....

But bizarely after a night shift if I raced, I tended to race well....

5.25m tonight to HR so nice and easy

Lyrics - feel I should know them..... knew the beatles version from yesterday not the J Cocker one...

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