Tuesday 30th August 2011

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30/08/2011 at 00:33

No hell below us.


What: 40 mins or so steady
Why: Aiming to run some pretty quick times soon! You may say I'm a dreamer, but I'm not the only one.
Last hard: some time ago
Last rest: 09

30/08/2011 at 05:55


What:4.25M Easy.

Why: Recovery run then watched athletics

Back later

30/08/2011 at 06:17
Oh and todays lyrics:Yes
30/08/2011 at 07:30

Alehouse looks like you're getting back into it.  I hope this means the pain is abating slightly?

Chicka  Wow good long run.

Start new job today, may mean posting decreases somewhat as not sure if I'll get a chance to come on at work like I used to!

What: Nothing

Why: Rest after yesterday's long run and trying to get into new work routine.

Lyrics: No

New job is an 8 mile round trip cycle, so fitness should improve slightly doing that every day.  Has anyone on here ever run the Medmenham 10?  I'm thinking of doing it this year.

Have a good day all

30/08/2011 at 07:57
What: Just the 10.5 d&d
5 miles lunchtime
2 miles and circuits PM
Why: marathon season
Last hard: Sunday Hilly 10km race
Last rest: Wednesday 27th July
Last Non run day: Sunday 21st August
Lyrics: No
30/08/2011 at 07:58

Hope the new job starts well emzap.

Good news on the feet Alehouse.

Chickadeee - it's quite uncommon to have attacks in the water (well, in a swimming pool anyway) but this is my third now. Off to try and get an appointment at the docs shortly.

Yesterdays lyrics - The Men They Couldn't Hang.

What:            probably nothing.
Why:              in-laws/doctors/recovery
Last hard:    DNFing
Last rest:     29/8

Lyrics - think so.

30/08/2011 at 08:32

Morning, again!

Emzap: hope you have a good day!

Re feet, I think they will always be a problem now, but I am learning what makes them less of a problem, i.e. managing the situation as best I can. 

LMH:  for what its worth I think you should be asking (insisting) the doc to refer you to an asthma specialists.

30/08/2011 at 10:49
Alehouse - All but given the Lyrics!!! - easy

30 mile cycle d&d.

Tempted to try an easy few miles later. Expecting results of my scan today, so its make or break!!

I will report.

30/08/2011 at 10:55
Paddy:  yes, easy lyrics...but most people haven't got them! Hope you get good advice from the scan report.
30/08/2011 at 12:23
Ale - I imagine it wont be too bad.
30/08/2011 at 12:27


Paddy hope all goes well with the Scan reports

LMH Did you get to see the Doc today?

Emzap Good luck i the new job

What: 7½ milecycle/9 mile cycle about 30 mins between d&d 3 mile run later
Why: sorting out pay query
Last Hard: ages
Lyrics: Of course love this song

While i was there managers there got collared for a shift tonnight  ho hum she would have phoned anyway

Gives me 117 almost bike miles for the month no cyclig tomorrow famous last words

Now for food

30/08/2011 at 12:40

Sad news

Local  running legend  Mel Battyhas lost his fight for life. RIP Mel

Mel Batty

Was talking to a lady at work who hubby is a good runnner and was saying its sad that ot many people knew who  he was he was a tremendous athlete and the world feels a little emmptier without him

30/08/2011 at 17:21

Alehouse - it's all steps and protocols these days - there are other steps on the way to the referral - which is, incidentally next if the new measures don't sort the problem. The trouble is that I can run a marathon with no problem and exercise well beyond the current government recommendations so it's not a priority for anyone but me really. I

Night-owl - more overtime? Hopefully you can enjoy spending the money. I saw the doc today and have been for a chest x-ray and now have a short course of oral steroids and an extra inhaler to add to my regime - I'll need to start getting up earlier soon to fit it all in! Also have her blessing to exercise as long as I keep the intensity down for at least a few days and to enter a half IM on the 18th which will hopefully show if the meds are working or not. Won't leave a lot of time for anything else before Henderson so fingers crossed.

30/08/2011 at 18:23

Greetings all,

Legs still a tad tired from Sunday, so opetd for steady miles today as don't want to risk anything...

What - 8.25m
Why - Steady Miles
Last hard - Sun
Last Rest - Fri

Take care

30/08/2011 at 19:06


Busier today

Paddy: Good cycle

emzap: All the best with your new job.

Mel Batty RIP

30/08/2011 at 19:56

Evening all.

Relatives departed, so got out for a run at last!

What: 1 easy, 2@10K, 1 recovery, 2@10K, 1 easy
Why:  Killer Tuesday session
Last hard:  5 days
Last rest:  1 day
Lyrics:  Yes

Managed the K-pace miles almost on target, except the first.

Club tomorrow.

30/08/2011 at 22:53
Evening all,

Emzap - hope the first day was a good one.

Paddy - fingers crossed that it's make.

Alehouse - sounds a little more positive than it did a while ago.

LMH - hope that things look up for you as well. I can sympathise with the problem of wanting help to be in the best shape you can be in. When I was on sticks, I waited for a long long time for an NHS physio appointment. I was told to come back when I needed a wheelchair - they would be able to do something for me then! Needless to say, I did not go back.

Me? three miles, on the deck. I am now mid-atlantic, gently rocking my way to the other side. Why? because it turned out that the easiest and cheapest and safest way of getting the double bass over to its boy in the states was to sail it over. They always kidded me about putting a mast on the thing. Anyway, my tall handsome four-stringed shipmate and I are enjoying the life of luxury. And with luck I will be able to deliver it un-injured to its boy.

Shan't be a regular posting though. Internet on board is blmin expensive!

30/08/2011 at 23:02


Interesting post Stickless! 

What: 40+ mins on firm canal path with 3 mins (2 mins rec) 2 mins (1 mins rec) 1 min all close to max
Why: no pain no gain?
Last hard: whilst not the hardest, 6 mins of this evening was quite close
Last rest: 09

Feet were a little tender until they warmed up (long massage beforehand) and will probably pay the penalty tomorrow, which is a planned easier day, fortunately.

Pammie (get your name changed Night Owl!!): sad to hear about Mel Batty...told a coach at the club tonight who is about the same age as Mel was and remembers him well as one of the toughest competitors about, and I know that Dr. Hill is of the same opinion. Quite a legend, actually.

Lyrics were "Imagine" by J. Lennon.

30/08/2011 at 23:12


<a href="http://www.highgateharriers.org.uk/hh_aa_interviews.php?i=0#108" title="Click to hide interview">Mel Batty (August 2011)</a> After hearing recently(August 24/8/2011) about the tragic accident of Mel Batty, who had his life support machine withdrawn, I realised we were losing one of the 'Greatest Characters' in Athletics. 'A Larger than Life Person' That would easily be substantiated by all those in athletics that knew him.
   Not only was he a successful coach to Eamonn Martin and Adam Hickey but as a 'Gutsy runner' who won the National in 1964-65 and held the World 10 mile track record with 47:26:8 but, those were not the most satisfying performances for him. It was a race that he was 'Officially' second in. The International 'World' cross country Championships of 1965 (Jean Fayolle (France) 36:48, 2 Mel Batty (England) 36:48 and 3 Mohamed Gammoudi (Tunisia) 37:00.--Pathe News of the race showed he appeared to dip on the line a few inches ahead of Fayolle)
   He told me "I would say the most satisfying and gave me the most pleasure was the 'World' International cross country of 1965 when I led most of the way and I ran into the ground 'Great' runners like Michel Bernard, Gaston
Roelants and Mohammed Gammoudi. Although I was judged second I think I won the race. If not it should have been a tie. That race gave me great satisfaction. It was very difficult to say but it was a great race. The record for 10 miles was very satisfying but In that cross-country race, with such World Class opposition I beat them all, as well as all the English guys around that time. All great runners Ron Hill, Basil  Heatley, Bruce Tulloh so that International was probably the most satisfying run. Being a front runner I led most of the way."
 What other races gave him particular satisfaction
" Being considered 'King of the Road' , winning the Rochester '5'  and winning the Hogs Back race three times in a row. Also one year I went up North to run the Waterloo ' 6' in Liverpool and all the Northern runners were at their best--Ron Hill , Mike Turner, and all those--and I beat them all. That gave me a lot of satisfaction."

<a href="http://www.highgateharriers.org.uk/hh_aa_interviews.php?i=0#108" title="Click to hide interview"></a>
Edited: 30/08/2011 at 23:13
30/08/2011 at 23:13

 What were his National memories when he first won.
" I always remember the first one because for the first two miles. I was neck and neck with Ron Hill. I was fast away but Ron was there; then I got away from him after the first lap and just ran away. Winning the National was a magnificent feeling and I will never forget it -- because that's a 'runners race'. That is why we should not devalue the National: because everybody can start on the same line as the Crams and  the Ovetts' of this World and be in the same race. There is a lot of correspondence about trying to cut the fields down but we should make sure we find a particular venue which is suitable to handle the organisation, I.e. the tremendous fields, and keep it there. They should not start to cut the fields down, because everybody should have the opportunity to run the National"
How did Mel get into athletics?
" I was not much good at school but what I did have was endurance. I must have been born with a large heart! We used to have races round the block where I lived, about a mile, and I used to do quite well. I joined Thurrock Harriers when I was 13, through my eldest brother Ken, who was secretary, so that was how I got into athletics really."

Alastair Aitken

Sorry about the heiroglyphics in the first part of the interview!

Edited: 30/08/2011 at 23:15

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