Weight & Performance

Lardarse wrote (see)

Pug, you don't look heavy, far from it. If, as far as this thread goes, your considered to be heavily built, then theres some serious body dismorphia going here! I would say you look normal, do you really wan't to look like a stick?

Have to agree there, and I think this is the problem with running, it encourages some very unhealthy approaches to weight.

I'm two and a half stones heavier than when I did my PB's, and I look and feel much better for it.

I wonder if some people would be willing to cut their willy and nutsack off if it was guaranteed to shave that all important 1% off their marathon time and get them a PB? 

Just been reading back ... Pug - are you really eating just 1000 calories a day and training for a marathon?

That does not sound like a good idea.

You must feel absolutely shattered all the time. 

You get used to it, yesterday and today infact was my first two "big days"... 2600 calroies each day, then again, yesterday was a 45 mile bike ride of nearly 3 hours, so...

Pug

oh yeah, forgot to say, now I've had a blow out, back to the grindstone

Having 2 wheetabix for breakie 250 cals, 2 vit tablets, 2 glucosamine, 2 cod liver oil tablets, then for dinner a large tin of soup... 250 cals then chicken or something for tea... the planis working as follows:

Any day I don't train, then 1000 calories maximum intake.

Any day I do train, I can't be more 1500 calories for the day...  i.e. if I do 10 mile run, eg burn off say 1200 cals, plus the 2000 for living, that's 3200 cals.. so I'll eat around 1500 cals... usually trying to be around 1500 calories down per day. It's not exact, but it's working... down from 88.6kg 21st December to 80.2kg on Saturday and only actually been dieting since 20th January! 20th January I was 13st 5lbs...

I know thjat by doing this I risk becoming injured, but beings as I'm always pulling my back out anyway I figure it can't be any worse. Don't worry, I'll stop when I'm 11st 7lbs... until then... I'll keep pushing. 

Pug

Don't want steady weight loss though, want fast weight loss I'm not one for hanging around to be honest, the better and faster the weight loss, job done for London/Edinburgh...

Pug

Jusy having a look back in again.

Had a bit of a disasterous couple of weeks diet wise !

However now back on track.

Starving at the moment,but...

Official weigh in today revealed 79.2kg...

Date Kilos
01/01/08 87
19/01/08 85.6
20/01/08 85
31/01/08 82
01/02/08 81.8
02/02/08 81.5
03/02/08 81.1
04/02/08 80.5
05/02/08 80.2
09/02/08 80.2
16/02/08 79.2

Pug

6ft 1"

Pug

What's with the tears?

 I'm 5'9.5" ... and 70kg.. and i'm not exactly on the large side. I can't understand how you can think you're heavy for your height. 

Still no running now for 10 days... but done some bike work and this left leg now is 85% back to normal, so i think running will commence in ernst this week... flippin' calfs hey, who needs then hahaha... at some point I'll be able to get this lean mean body hahaha out the door and see the benefit of the weight loss... however, official weigh in this morning:

Official weigh in today... 77.4kg so... grand total of 23lbs lost since 18th December...

Date Kilos
01/01/08 87
19/01/08 85.6
20/01/08 85
31/01/08 82
01/02/08 81.8
02/02/08 81.5
03/02/08 81.1
04/02/08 80.5
05/02/08 80.2
09/02/08 80.2
16/02/08 79.2
23/02/08 77.4

Pug

Well, it's official, come on... for the first time since University, which is 13 years ago now, I'm the lightest I've ever been and plus, I'm officially sub 12 stone..

18/12/08 87.9kg
01/01/08 87kg
19/01/08 85.6kg
20/01/08 85kg
31/01/08 82kg
01/02/08 81.8kg
02/02/08 81.5kg
03/02/08 81.1kg
04/02/08 80.5kg
05/02/08 80.2kg
09/02/08 80.2kg
16/02/08 79.2kg
23/02/08 77.4kg
01/03/08 78.3kg
08/03/08 77.1kg
15/03/08 75.7kg

So, 11st 12.5lbs this morning... 11.1% fat, 47% muscle and feeling good about myself... now if only I could run and test this new super thin frame and get rid of this tendon injury... but hey ho, can't have everything... so, basically another 5.5lbs to go on the weight loss, then I'll come off this stupid diet me thinks!

The one thing I'm taking form this is will power, it's amazing how much you have to think about everythign you eat to really trim down, it become obsessive. The things at work, people bringing in cakes and sweets everyday from work, it's rediculous with everyone just pigging out on them...

Anyhow, using my above weight loss... I've calculated the following...  from a PB from 18 months ago at a weigh to what if I got into the same shape I could be doing now( bear in mind the 13st 12lbs PB, I was only running 30 mile per weeks, so not exactly killing myself)

13st 12lbs

Actual Half Marathon PB1:24:50,

11st 12.5lbs (PB Predictions based on above and my spreadsheet)

5k Predicted = 16:09, 10k Predicted = 34:09, 10 mile Predicted = 57:07, Half Marathon Predicted = 1:14:56, 20 Mile Predicted = 1:56:47 and Marathon Predicted = 2:36:25

So, the plan is, to get down to 11st 7lbs, then come off the diet. Then, I'll do 12 weeks of training which is all I did for the 1:24:50 (13st 12lbs) PB 18 months ago and I'll see what and how close to these predicted times I do. 

Pug

Hi pug, well done, great weight loss!

You remember you posted a pick of yourself in an event at 12st 10? Any chance of a comparison pic now? I recall you thought you looked heavy at the time.

Btw, playing devils advocate... Do you think that had you been eating more your tendon injury might heal quicker? Or even not have happened in the first instance?

Had the tendon trouble before started hitting the diet to be honest so no don't think it'd have made any difference. As for recovery, who knows, basically I've been out since February 11th anyway, and been eating loads of protein, multi vits and and Glocosomine, so infact I've probably eaten so much better than ever to be honest... I'm doubtful it'd have made any difference, but obviously I'm no nuitritionalist..

As for piccie, well hope to be racing the 12th April, so I'll be sure to show some comparison piccies... I'll actuially show the full set from 15 stone right the way down, all racing pictues just so people can see.

 However this thread isn't really about me... it's about, do we get free performance, and the only way to see that is, see what I can do after 12 weeks of training again... so as soon as this injury clears I'll see if my predictions work!

Pug

Yeah agreed this thread is all about preformance gains, i was just curious, thats all.

Since last november i've been looking after my diet more too, and have lost around 11kg (it fluctuates) and i've certainly seen a performance gain, if not in speed, then certainly in perceived effort. I would need to keep a constant training level, and lose weight in that time frame, in order to get an accurate picture. As it is, i don't know how much is weight related, and how much is due to upping the training?

But i look and feel better, not such a lardarse now!

Well matey, it's deffo a combo of both, but you'll find you'll be beating PB's left right and centre... so what did you weight and what do you weigh now?

Pug