Weight & Performance

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12/02/2008 at 13:34

Just been reading back ... Pug - are you really eating just 1000 calories a day and training for a marathon?

That does not sound like a good idea.

You must feel absolutely shattered all the time. 

12/02/2008 at 13:40
1,000 calories a day?! Good GOD man...
12/02/2008 at 21:22

You get used to it, yesterday and today infact was my first two "big days"... 2600 calroies each day, then again, yesterday was a 45 mile bike ride of nearly 3 hours, so...


12/02/2008 at 21:27

oh yeah, forgot to say, now I've had a blow out, back to the grindstone

Having 2 wheetabix for breakie 250 cals, 2 vit tablets, 2 glucosamine, 2 cod liver oil tablets, then for dinner a large tin of soup... 250 cals then chicken or something for tea... the planis working as follows:

Any day I don't train, then 1000 calories maximum intake.

Any day I do train, I can't be more 1500 calories for the day...  i.e. if I do 10 mile run, eg burn off say 1200 cals, plus the 2000 for living, that's 3200 cals.. so I'll eat around 1500 cals... usually trying to be around 1500 calories down per day. It's not exact, but it's working... down from 88.6kg 21st December to 80.2kg on Saturday and only actually been dieting since 20th January! 20th January I was 13st 5lbs...

I know thjat by doing this I risk becoming injured, but beings as I'm always pulling my back out anyway I figure it can't be any worse. Don't worry, I'll stop when I'm 11st 7lbs... until then... I'll keep pushing. 


13/02/2008 at 08:08
Would it not be better to just tweak your macros, but not drop calories? You could still achieve steady weight-loss, but without being on such a low-calorie diet...
13/02/2008 at 12:03

Don't want steady weight loss though, want fast weight loss I'm not one for hanging around to be honest, the better and faster the weight loss, job done for London/Edinburgh...


15/02/2008 at 10:19

Jusy having a look back in again.

Had a bit of a disasterous couple of weeks diet wise !

However now back on track.

Starving at the moment,but...

16/02/2008 at 10:07
I've been on hols from work this last week and have done heaps of training (not quite added it up yet but will be over 60 miles by tomorrow i think) so i've not even tried to diet. Back to work Monday when the alcohol mid-week wil have to stop and the chocs no more! o dear!
16/02/2008 at 18:31

Official weigh in today revealed 79.2kg...

Date Kilos
01/01/08 87
19/01/08 85.6
20/01/08 85
31/01/08 82
01/02/08 81.8
02/02/08 81.5
03/02/08 81.1
04/02/08 80.5
05/02/08 80.2
09/02/08 80.2
16/02/08 79.2


Edited: 16/02/2008 at 18:41
17/02/2008 at 10:36
How tall are you fella?
17/02/2008 at 14:50

6ft 1"


18/02/2008 at 09:03

What's with the tears?

 I'm 5'9.5" ... and 70kg.. and i'm not exactly on the large side. I can't understand how you can think you're heavy for your height. 

23/02/2008 at 08:42

Still no running now for 10 days... but done some bike work and this left leg now is 85% back to normal, so i think running will commence in ernst this week... flippin' calfs hey, who needs then hahaha... at some point I'll be able to get this lean mean body hahaha out the door and see the benefit of the weight loss... however, official weigh in this morning:

Official weigh in today... 77.4kg so... grand total of 23lbs lost since 18th December...

Date Kilos
01/01/08 87
19/01/08 85.6
20/01/08 85
31/01/08 82
01/02/08 81.8
02/02/08 81.5
03/02/08 81.1
04/02/08 80.5
05/02/08 80.2
09/02/08 80.2
16/02/08 79.2
23/02/08 77.4


Edited: 23/02/2008 at 08:43
15/03/2008 at 08:05

Well, it's official, come on... for the first time since University, which is 13 years ago now, I'm the lightest I've ever been and plus, I'm officially sub 12 stone..

18/12/08 87.9kg
01/01/08 8

So, 11st 12.5lbs this morning... 11.1% fat, 47% muscle and feeling good about myself... now if only I could run and test this new super thin frame and get rid of this tendon injury... but hey ho, can't have everything... so, basically another 5.5lbs to go on the weight loss, then I'll come off this stupid diet me thinks!

The one thing I'm taking form this is will power, it's amazing how much you have to think about everythign you eat to really trim down, it become obsessive. The things at work, people bringing in cakes and sweets everyday from work, it's rediculous with everyone just pigging out on them...

Anyhow, using my above weight loss... I've calculated the following...  from a PB from 18 months ago at a weigh to what if I got into the same shape I could be doing now( bear in mind the 13st 12lbs PB, I was only running 30 mile per weeks, so not exactly killing myself)

13st 12lbs

Actual Half Marathon PB1:24:50,

11st 12.5lbs (PB Predictions based on above and my spreadsheet)

5k Predicted = 16:09, 10k Predicted = 34:09, 10 mile Predicted = 57:07, Half Marathon Predicted = 1:14:56, 20 Mile Predicted = 1:56:47 and Marathon Predicted = 2:36:25

So, the plan is, to get down to 11st 7lbs, then come off the diet. Then, I'll do 12 weeks of training which is all I did for the 1:24:50 (13st 12lbs) PB 18 months ago and I'll see what and how close to these predicted times I do. 


15/03/2008 at 12:00

Hi pug, well done, great weight loss!

You remember you posted a pick of yourself in an event at 12st 10? Any chance of a comparison pic now? I recall you thought you looked heavy at the time.

Btw, playing devils advocate... Do you think that had you been eating more your tendon injury might heal quicker? Or even not have happened in the first instance?

15/03/2008 at 12:30

Had the tendon trouble before started hitting the diet to be honest so no don't think it'd have made any difference. As for recovery, who knows, basically I've been out since February 11th anyway, and been eating loads of protein, multi vits and and Glocosomine, so infact I've probably eaten so much better than ever to be honest... I'm doubtful it'd have made any difference, but obviously I'm no nuitritionalist..

As for piccie, well hope to be racing the 12th April, so I'll be sure to show some comparison piccies... I'll actuially show the full set from 15 stone right the way down, all racing pictues just so people can see.

 However this thread isn't really about me... it's about, do we get free performance, and the only way to see that is, see what I can do after 12 weeks of training again... so as soon as this injury clears I'll see if my predictions work!


15/03/2008 at 13:02

Yeah agreed this thread is all about preformance gains, i was just curious, thats all.

Since last november i've been looking after my diet more too, and have lost around 11kg (it fluctuates) and i've certainly seen a performance gain, if not in speed, then certainly in perceived effort. I would need to keep a constant training level, and lose weight in that time frame, in order to get an accurate picture. As it is, i don't know how much is weight related, and how much is due to upping the training?

But i look and feel better, not such a lardarse now!

15/03/2008 at 20:00

Well matey, it's deffo a combo of both, but you'll find you'll be beating PB's left right and centre... so what did you weight and what do you weigh now?


15/03/2008 at 20:14

I weighed  85.9kg - 13st 7 - wed  14/11/07

sun  9/03/08  74.3kg - 11st 9lb ...but that was after a 22miler

I'm not as tall as you (5' 10") and dont have your running pedigree, but yeah i hope to beat my marathon time this year.

First one, Dublin, was in 2006, 4hrs 17 @ 14.5st, second 4hrs 37 @ 13.5st (but i was injured before the race, and really thought i wouldn't make 5miles, went out for a suvival time).

So going with the first time and weight, to present weight + 1.5years training i'm hoping for 3.45ish? Did a 20mile race three weeks ago, 2hrs 45...completely fcuked!

16/03/2008 at 10:18

Lardarse All I can say is WOW, you're weight loss is as impressive as mine and sounds like you've done it through hardwork and diet rather than doing daft stuff like me... well done mate, that's a fantastic weight loss, and can't wait to see what benefits it adds to your speed, of which they'll be many... it also shows what we're all capable off and it's simply mind over matter.

When others are eating at work, all the sweets people bring in... it's very very hard to just walk past and not just have "the one"... 

I take it you downloaded my spreadsheet from in the earlier posts? I worked out a couple of years ago what ou should/shouldnt be doing timewise when you've lost the weight and found all my PB's dropped to there or there abouts... it's a matter of logic, if you're lighter then you'll run quicker all thing being equal...

I know I'm doing Edinburgh Marathon in May but probably won't be in any physical shape for that to be used, however got a few things lined up for June etc, so assuming I can start training again 1st April, lets see what we can both do matey!


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