Considering the switch to tri

but I have a concern...

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TheEngineer    pirate
19/08/2009 at 10:57

Yeah, you're right on that one, it's a bit clearer. Forgive my complete idiocy when it comes to this kind of stuff, I wouldn't say I'm slow on the uptake, but you guys have a bit of a headstart!

 How far do people train in the pool? I mean, if I can do 2km without much problem...  I appreciate open water must be harder, but how much so?

19/08/2009 at 11:04
open water I find much easier as it happens for 2 reasons - extra buoyancy from the wetsuit which improves my body position in the water and no walls to slow you down so you can swim continuously. plus I hate pools as the chlorine gets to me for a good 24hrs after a swim so I rarely use one!

luckily I live 400m from the sea so in season I use that when I can - was in last evening for 25mins......
cougie    pirate
19/08/2009 at 11:10
I've never gone more than an hour in the pool - and have no problem swimming 90 mins outside. If you can do the extra time in the pool its probably a good idea, but I just get so bored.

OW is quicker for me than a pool. Wetty makes me swim a bit faster.
TheEngineer    pirate
19/08/2009 at 11:39

Well that's rather encouraging news! Am I right in saying the open water season is drawing to a close now? Might have to put off the wetsuit buying until next year...

I've found the IM 09 Virgins thread. Is there one for 2010 yet?

Cheerful Dave    pirate
19/08/2009 at 11:40

The amount of time to spend in the pool depends on how quickly you lose the will to live, frankly

Getting some OW time is worthwhile because it's probably the only chance you get to train in a wetsuit without children laughing at you, and because swimming straight without the benefit of the line at the bottom of a pool is harder than it sounds.  And because some of us (me included) found the first OW experience a little unnerving.  Panic attacks are not unheard of, even amongst experienced pool swimmers.

TheEngineer    pirate
19/08/2009 at 11:44
I have (very briefly) been in open water before, did a couple of mornings one November as part of a lifeguard course. Haven't swam more than 150m in one go though, and we are talking a long time ago. As long as there's a moderately attractive lifeguard to hand me a towel, I'll be fine.
19/08/2009 at 12:19
SE - open water swimming will go well into October (depending on access as some lakes will close for swimming) as the water temp doesn't start dropping much until the start of October - by the end the sea will be around 14/15C so still swimmable if chilly
TheEngineer    pirate
19/08/2009 at 12:29

Thanks fb. I must say I'm overwhelmed by the patience of people on here. I thought the internet was full of nasty people and the kind of people who comment on Youtube videos...

I might get a wetsuit now, and look into getting a decent bike for Christmas...

19/08/2009 at 12:38
oh - we can do nasty as well........
TheEngineer    pirate
19/08/2009 at 12:51
There's a time and a place for that though
PSC    pirate
19/08/2009 at 12:58

OW has it's own challenges.  There is no line to follow so many of us zig zag (you've got to practice sighting, ie looking where you are going).  The cold is also something that you need to get used to - not that it is cold at the moment, but certainly colder than a pool.  Access to open water can be a problem too - FB and I are both close to the sea, others may have to use lakes and these have issues as may be shared with other water sports so only available early morning etc.  To use the lakes near us you need a permit - to prove you can swim!  LOL.  Also if you are going into OW, it is advisable to have another person with you incase you get into dificulty.

Now stop asking questions and get out and train!

TheEngineer    pirate
19/08/2009 at 13:14
Oh I want to get out and train. I'm chained to my desk until 4:30. Then I have to go for a meal with my boss. He's pretty understanding though - he's an ultrarunner and orienteering obsessive. Besides, I finish placement in a week... then the madness will reach full scale.
PSC    pirate
19/08/2009 at 18:12
Cancel you gym membership that will save you loads. Join you local masters swim group as it is likely to be cheaper and will have coaches there. Then use Gods gym. Outdoors.

Goodluck with it.
PSC    pirate
19/08/2009 at 18:18
Hey, how did that happen. I posted that on the last page. Ignore above. Already said. Move on.....
Farnie    pirate
20/08/2009 at 08:25
SlowEngineer wrote (see)
  Besides, I finish placement in a week... then the madness will reach full scale.

Crumbs does that mean you are about to start final year???

God help you, its all still a blur to me

TheEngineer    pirate
20/08/2009 at 09:36
Farnie wrote (see)

Crumbs does that mean you are about to start final year???

God help you, its all still a blur to me


Not exactly, I'm on an integrated Masters, so I have two years left. That is, unless I seriously screw up this year, and leave with a Bachelors! How I intend to hold down the degree, the tri, and the not-found-as-yet-but-probably-vital part time job... I don't know. 

 You only live once....

TheEngineer    pirate
21/08/2009 at 13:50

So after a couple of swims thrown in with my runs I'm feeling a little buoyed by confidence. I might actually be able to make this stick. The next step is a bike. Now I haven't biked in a while with the exception of stationary bikes, and my confidence is not the highest of all time. Last time I rode on the road, I nearly got hit by a cement mixer! Also, I've never really got the hang of gear selection, and think I might be making life difficult for me in that respect too.

 Does anybody have any tips for a terrible cyclist? (bearing in mind I haven't splashed out on a bike yet)

Thank you.

21/08/2009 at 14:09
SE - I think many of us around here have various tales of tell of "near misses" plus a few who've had the "full on" argument with a vehicle (me included - got knocked off by a car back in June).

there's no getting away from it, if you want to do tri you have to road ride (OK - there are a few off-road tris but not that many) and that means improving your confidence.

start slowly and build up - find somewhere with little traffic (not always easy) where you can improve handling skills and gear selection (modern bar mounted gears are actually very easy to use). perhaps try and link up with a bike/tri club and go out on some group rides - that will probably help.

your confidence will improve but you literally have to get out and ride!
TheEngineer    pirate
21/08/2009 at 16:05
fb - I am willing to get out on the road. The last bike I rode had a shifter mounted on the frame, and was about 35 years old. I figure something a bit newer and easier to ride might help greatly. As regards gears, I know I have a decent amount of oomph in my legs from stationary bike power readings etc, but when it comes to picking the appropriate gear, I end up feeliong like I've got no steam...
Rc.    pirate
21/08/2009 at 18:02

Open water cold! Lol when I was diving we would be in the water at 6am at Stoneycove get the first dive in all year round. THere was nothing worse than at 10mts when you couldnt equalise and you had to pull the sides of your hood open to let some water in.

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