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18/01/2009 at 10:28

Mmm Little N, I think I'll give the tri club a call.  It doesnt say anything on their web site about doing a minium distance and mentions catering for all levels but think I'd better check.  Some of these swimming instruction sites look intersting though.  I love swimming and would really like to do front crawl as confidently as my breast stroke so think I might go along to one.  I must be doing something wrong because at breast stroke I feel I could go almost on for ever until I get bored but crawl has me puffing and panting with my heart pounding very quickly. 

Thanks everyone.

18/01/2009 at 10:38
I was told to slow down quite frequently by my swim coach in the first week. We did bilateral breathing in the second week and that certainly helped me pace myself better.  Speaking of which, time to actually go and do some practice.
Aitch!    pirate
18/01/2009 at 12:30
Soupy - there were no requirements to join my tri club and the first time I went they just said take it as it comes and breast stroke for a bit if you need to. I had to rest after almost every length at first as I got sooooo tired but I don't rest quite as much now. I find breast really hurts my arms a lot more that fc.

I could feel it in my lower back this morning! Just been for a lovely 7 mile run - nice way to top off the weekend!
18/01/2009 at 14:57

Thanks to you guys -Troglodytes and MW - for the info on Swim coaching in my area. I'll definetly be in contact with whoever's best suitable for me in order to move things foward.

By the way MW did you have one to one coaching  with Glen or was it in a small group?

adbru    pirate
19/01/2009 at 09:24

Hi Guys,

been missing on here recently due to a family bereavement 

 Managed to get some swimming done in the last couple of weeks though, new distance pb of 1 mile !!  (1600m-64x25m) in 48mins. 
Just about as slow as I can go for the cutoff in my Oly distance !!  but now I know I can do the distance I can work on the speed.

Next target will be 2k in an hour, very slow compared to some of you guys but its an improvement from gasping for breath after 80m !!  lol

Adbru

Bionic Ironwolf    pirate
19/01/2009 at 10:11

well done, that's a significant improvement!

 

19/01/2009 at 11:43
Adbru - I'm sure it depends on the race, but Oly distance is usually 1500m - a metric mile - so it's 60 lengths - you can knock another 3 mins off!!
I did London Tri last year as my first, and swam 48 mins - I wasn't quite last, but there weren't many behind me so i know how you feel! I'm just off to the pool now, and have got down to about 40 secs per length (on a long swim) now by doing less strokes and stopping kicking!
19/01/2009 at 13:40
Ultra-Ironwolf wrote (see)

Neil - no, I live, work, train and race in Germany.


In my younger days I used to be based in Germany,  Think I had a few boses who might question the work and training mentality.  (Grolsche 20p per bottle - quick education, still recouperating....). 
Bionic Ironwolf    pirate
19/01/2009 at 14:07
triathlon scene here is great.
19/01/2009 at 16:11
Marina66 wrote (see)
Neil is that the Phoenix club that use Charterhouse Club pool? As there's a Phoenix Tri Club  that use the club I go to on Tuesdays and Sundays.

It most certainly is.  I went there a few weeks ago on a sunday evening, their website said please come along and have a try.  You might have seen me, I was the one at the back they were all waiting for, Bloody killed me!  Excellent group of people, wide range. 

But as put to me afterwards, they have a waiting list.  Seeing how many renew subscriptions before taking on new members.  They don't want too many peolpe turning up at the pool for training, a very sensible idea, one you can understand. 

19/01/2009 at 22:19

message for Ultra-Ironwolf, i saw on another thread you are hoping for a Kona slot. if you dont already read this blog give it a go, a couple who are training for Lanza with the hope of Kona places. updated every sunday night and gives a good insight into Ironman training (at least to the uninitiated like me!)

50 weeks to Kona

19/01/2009 at 23:29
Sorry going right off line here, but what sort of placing are you aiming at to get your place?  My only hope is winning the lottery place.  The dream of swimming there compared with starting at my local pool....... 
Bionic Ironwolf    pirate
20/01/2009 at 06:26

Neil - I've never had a real chance to qualify before, as I'm not that fast but I just moved up into W60 this year. There is only one other woman entered in our age group, and she is 64. Therefore I have at least a 50-50% chance of the qualifying slot - if I win then of course the slot is mine by right, if I'm 2nd and the other woman doesn't want to go the slot rolls down to me. She was the sole W60 last year and declined the Kona slot, so I have hopes. But I am going for the win anyway!

Meglet - thanks for thinking of me but I am not a novice, have done some IMs already. I am in week 14 of my coach's 37 week training plan to get me ready for July.

20/01/2009 at 07:18
Good luck IW!!
20/01/2009 at 08:31
Ultra-Ironwolf wrote (see)

Meglet - thanks for thinking of me but I am not a novice, have done some IMs already. I am in week 14 of my coach's 37 week training plan to get me ready for July.


oh no i didnt think you were, your swim training alone is pretty serious! Sounds like you have a good chance already, and with the right training you will increase your chances even more. having done one before i am sure you realise what it takes, i take my hat off to anyone wh even attempts an ironman (as someone who finds the thought of a marathon on its own very scary!). i have been reading that blog in awe, they went for Kona places last year but missed out. theyre fairly local to me too although i dont know them, just stumbles across the blog by accident.

my second swim lesson tonight, not so nervous this week

20/01/2009 at 08:44

My quest for speed wasn't bringing me enough disappointment and frustration during the evenings and weekends so now I've taken to early morning swims as well.

I had both feet wet by 06.30 and did 2300 metres in 55 minutes. That's an definitely an improvement but not enough of an improvement to beat the feckin traffic warden who slapped a £30 ticket on my car at 07.20. 

Still, I can now look forward to a full day of sniffing, scratching and dribbling on my paperwork, in the knowledge that I've freed up more time this evening to grind out some extra mind numbing  miles on the turbo.

Happy swimming all. 

20/01/2009 at 09:08
Ah poor you Av!  So the question is, can you afford to swim that early in the morning?
Bionic Ironwolf    pirate
20/01/2009 at 11:32

Actually meglet, I'm the only one in the swim group who's doing IM, the others are all Olympic distance athletes. Doing an IM or even a marathon I would say depends very much on mental attitude - I don't have the speed to do well at shorter distances and got got fed up with trailing in at the back of the field. I do have stamina, bags of it, have run 38 marathons and 1 40-mile ultra. To me they are easier than 10kms - which are loooong sprints to me!

And the other thing is.............I really love doing the training for its own sake.

20/01/2009 at 11:50
i think you would have to love it to do that. i find it hard to fit in three short runs a week!
20/01/2009 at 12:33
Ultra-Ironwolf wrote (see)
Neil - I've never had a real chance to qualify before, as I'm not that fast but I just moved up into W60 this year. There is only one other woman entered in our age group, and she is 64. Therefore I have at least a 50-50% chance of the qualifying slot - if I win then of course the slot is mine by right, if I'm 2nd and the other woman doesn't want to go the slot rolls down to me. She was the sole W60 last year and declined the Kona slot,

Thats brialliant, just need the sex change and a couple more years and I'm on my way.  Oh yes and the two of you to decline.   How do the cut of times vary to the other IM's youve done.

Apologies to others, this is off thread again, but we are looking at the other end of the range.

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