Cr@p Swimmers R Us

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26/02/2009 at 21:51

Thanks for that write-up, SD. All top tips most appreciated. Yes, I do about 30-something strokes per lengths in a 25 meter pool! However, tonight I managed a flukey couple of lengths of 24 and 23 strokes. I made a huge effort to try and keep my legs more streamlined, and magically, that was the result.

Am thinking I need lessons - have seen an ad online, £45 for a 1-2-1 60 min lesson - and you can pay for lessons one at a time. Might give it a go. Also looked up local tri club, but you have to be able to swim 100 metres continuous front crawl to go to their coached swimming sessions, so maybe lessons are a must?

Nina - we are all looking to emulate you! Please keep reminding us you couldn't swim one length last year!

26/02/2009 at 21:54
Wonder Woman - you are quoted in the latest Runner's World mag - you started a "Hot Thread" apparently! Do you get royalties for having your thread quoted?
TR
26/02/2009 at 22:14
PQ - TI talk about "front quadrant" swiiming - you have to keep the reach going for as long as you can, in a kind of catch up stylie. It helps me.
26/02/2009 at 22:50

Great insight into TI - Thanks for that SD! Will definitly try and get on the next course local to me.

I have the book and DVD and try to do the suggested drills but must be doing something wrong as I get quite breathless after 50 metres. I had half an hour session one to one with a swim coach a few weeks back and she said my body position and kick was looking ok but I didnt have any pull. I then spent 20 minutes trying to learn the 's 'shaped pull which after learning the TI way through the DVD and book didn't suit me at all and I found to be even more exhausting.

I need to get back in the pool again as I hurt my shoulder 3 weeks ago after a swim session and haven't been back since, I now seem to have lost my swimming confidence again and keep putting off going. Any tips will be greatly appreciated

  

Aitch!    pirate
27/02/2009 at 12:38
Well just been down to LA pool and played dodge the people!

Swam 1900m (distance for the Vit). It felt okay but took me just under 1hr 15 mins.... Not so happy about that... I will need to speed up to beat the cut off! Does swimming speed come from practice?? Can I get faster?!
Richard 123    pirate
27/02/2009 at 12:49

If it's any help with motivation last January I couldn't swim a length of FC albeit I coudl BS until the cows come home. 

I struggled and struggled, attended some group lessons run by the blue rinse brigade at the local pool, had one 1:1 session by a tri coach at my local pool, one 1:1 session at an endless pool and just put lots of (frustrating - very frustrating) time and effort in but swam, all FC, IM in July in 1 hr 30. Persevere and it will come - I promise!

Aitch!    pirate
27/02/2009 at 13:04
Thanks Richard! Wow you've come on in leaps and bounds! I try and get to tri club technique swim once a week which is helping as I could barely swim any FC this time last year so I've improved already! I am not one for giving up so will keep getting the hours in down at the pool.

I found myself getting very annoyed at people not doing any swimming in the pool this morning, just stood around chatting!. Also not moving out of the way for me, just looking at me! Although, I was chatting to an old man for a couple of mins in one of my breaks and he's 78 and still swims a mile once a week! He used to run for Derbyshire and said he still runs now and keeps himself in shape. He was one of the people who was actually swimming!!
27/02/2009 at 13:17

Aitch - doing interval sessions helped me improve my speed. I try and do 1 session a week that is split into 50, 100 or 200 intervals.

I think working on technique is great but think people get a bit bogged down with it at times. Learn the basics, do some drills (they bore me so I do them rarely) and get in a swim some intervals. In 18 months doing this I went from 50plus minutes for 1500 to 31 minutes.

When I play golf I don't hit it like Tiger Woods. When I play tennis I don't hit it like Nadal. So why would I expect to have a technqiue like Phelps. Find out what works for you. Good luck.

Aitch!    pirate
27/02/2009 at 13:29
Thanks Max... When you say you do intervals... do you mean you go top speed for 50m, recover, top speed for 100m, recover etc?? The technique session I go do do various different drills and I feel like I've improved from going to them. This session moved to OW in May so I can get OW experience and practice done.
27/02/2009 at 15:17

A typical session would be:

200 warm up

8 x 50 intervals (90-95% effort with 15 second rest)

4 x 100 intervals (90% with 30 seconds rest)

2 x 200 intervals (80% with 30 seconds rest)

4 x 100 intervals again

8 x 50 intervals again

Warm down and then home

27/02/2009 at 21:06

PQ - thanks for tip off, have now seen the 'hot thread' in RW...how exciting, but very sadly not rewarded in same was as star letter (no prize), how disappointing.

I've never had anything published in a national mag before, so even if I fail to learn front crawl at least I have achieved something!!!!

Bionic Ironwolf    pirate
28/02/2009 at 13:40

Back in harness today - today's training:

500m easy warmup

300m medium fast, 30 secs rest

300m with pull bouy, 20 secs rest

3 x 200m medium fast, 20 secs rest

300m with pull bouy, 20 secs rest

2 x 300m medium fast, 20 secs rest

10 x 50m descending (each one faster)

200 very easy cooldown at level 1.

Total 3200m

 

WildWill    pirate
28/02/2009 at 14:51
I havnt done much of late ... so yesterday i did a 1k Time Trial to see how i was ... took me 20:43 so got some work to do before OW season gets here
Bionic Ironwolf    pirate
28/02/2009 at 16:30
wish I was that fast!
IronNina    pirate
28/02/2009 at 21:36
Evening all,
I'm in Glasgow for a 2 day meeting and have just been down to the hotel pool thinking I could do a few lengths.
My oh my. it's like a hot tub! Water was just SO warm and the pool was sort of oblong shaped so I either had to swim diagonally to get the maximum distance in ( about 12m!) or swim around the circumference which obviously meant turning a corner all the time!
Then 2 young chappies came in which made the pool seem too full so I ended up spending just 20 mins there.
Oh well, at least the gym is half decent so I should get a run in on a treadmill before the course starts tomorrow morning. Got back to my room and ordered fresh salmon pasta, yum yum, all in the name of carbo-loading!
sweetfeet...    pirate
02/03/2009 at 22:29

Guys in true Jaws stylee: when would it be 'safe to get back in the water'?

I'm keen to get as much OW training in as it is all new to me. I don't have any swim lakes that I can find locally so will need to cope with the sea.

From what temperature is wet suit swimming OK?

Bionic Ironwolf    pirate
03/03/2009 at 05:56
well at Cologne tri last September the water temp was 16c - bliddy freezing!
WildWill    pirate
03/03/2009 at 07:54
last year was a bad one (temperature wise) for OW swimming and i had a few where the water struggled to get into the low teens
Edited: 03/03/2009 at 07:54
WildWill    pirate
03/03/2009 at 14:03
another visit to pool

did 3 x 400m on the 10 ... managed quite even split of 8:07, 8:11 , 8:07
Bionic Ironwolf    pirate
03/03/2009 at 20:56

well done Will.

Kathrin set pace work for us at swim training tonight:

800m warmup (200m crawl/50m kick on left side/100m crawl/50m kick on right side) x 2.

4 x 100m on 2min 30 secs. (I did 2:26, 2:27, 2:29, 2:32)

400m fast

4 x 100m on 2 mins 15 secs (mine were 2:16, 2:17, 2: 14, 2:14)

400m with pull bouy

4 x 100m on 2 mins 5 secs (too fast for me, especially as | was sick all last week,  nearest was 2:11)

800m easy cooldown, any strokes.

quite pleased with my pacing ability.

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