Cr@p Swimmers R Us

Swimming Support Thread

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IronNina    pirate
06/04/2009 at 21:54
Well, I finally managed the distance, yippee!! Painfully slowly but I don't care: 3.8k in 1 hour 56 mins including stops for drinks, adjusting goggles, letting the fast ones past etc.
Sooo, within the cut-off for IMCH and that's after a rather painful duathlon yesterday. Well worth a couple of finest Belgian chocs me thinks
WildWill    pirate
07/04/2009 at 07:26
Well done Nina
TR
07/04/2009 at 07:51

still struggling along with my swimming, must say I'm most impressed with some of the improvements here.

Someone told me last week to stop fighting the water, so I've tried to get back to basics a bit. I'd never paid much attention to the catch and pull - cos I didnt really understand what I should be doing. So I did a bit of youtube viewing.

Instead of sweeping an arm down towrads the bottom of teh pool. I'm now trying to catch and pull properly. The same fella that told me to stop fighting the water said my right arm is now good, but the left is still a problem - cos its my breathing side.

Hoepfully that will come together, but my elbow and the pull is all a bit sunken due to breathing.

Any top tips ?

Bi-lateral breathing isnt going to happen.

WildWill    pirate
07/04/2009 at 08:47
TR

Slow things down ... dont try and swim faster ...aim to swim slow and with good technique ... I am not a fast swimmer - just a quick slow swimmer

Do Drills - work on the basics -.... improve your technique

Get to the pool as often as you can ... aim for at least 3 times per week for 30-60mins

As part of the drills do breathing drills - breath on the 2 then 3 then 4 ...5 ... 6... 7 ...6..5..4..3.2 that sort of thing and iam to do the even breathing on your week side
WildWill    pirate
07/04/2009 at 13:50
a short but worthwhile session today for me

I did 4 x 400m :1.30:RI

I managed to stay in the low 7:20s for each rep with the best being 7:21

Edited: 07/04/2009 at 13:50
07/04/2009 at 14:04
Crap Swimmers R Us?
WildWill    pirate
07/04/2009 at 15:33
The thread has been going some time ....

and some of us stick about to offer support ... and hope
Bionic Ironwolf    pirate
07/04/2009 at 15:41

yes that's right. And some of us are still not that good!

But I have learned a whole lot about what not to do, so can give some tips now and again.

 

07/04/2009 at 17:57

What times did you start from Will to get down to 7.20 for 400m, and over what period?

I've been doing tri for a year and have managed to get down from 50ish secs per 25m to 40ish secs per 25m (on long swims). For a one-off 25m I can do 30secs. I think I've got to the point where any gains on swim times will lead to disproportionate losses on bike/run. I've accepted I'm a crap swimmer but seek to make my stroke as non-inefficient(?) and low-energy use as possible.

07/04/2009 at 19:42

Those Youtube swim tutorials are brilliant, because you can see the swimmer from under the water - where else can you see a swimmer's technique from underneath -

Did 40 lengths front crawl this afternoon.  Slow and steady mostly, with a few fast and furious in between, when I started to feel sleepy.  Don't know about others, but I could feel myself dozing off today... not a good combination - deep water and snoozing.      

TR
07/04/2009 at 20:37
thanks will, I agree it works best when I try and swim slowly and correctly. But I'm not fast at the best of times.
Bionic Ironwolf    pirate
07/04/2009 at 21:45

tonight's tri club swim session:

200m warmup
200m w/pull bouy, high arms
5 x (25m sprint/25m easy), 5 x (25m easy/25m sprint)
200m w/pull bouy, breathing alternate 2nd and 3rd strokes
2 x 200m fast
400m w/pull bouy, alternating backstroke arms & crawl arms every 50m
2 x 200m fast
400m alternating fingertips drill/zippers every 50m
200m cool down

hard work! but  I've learned to love it.

 

WildWill    pirate
08/04/2009 at 13:48
1-mile TT for me today ... 31:21

A 40 sec improvement from 2wks ago

Very pleased with that
TR
09/04/2009 at 18:58

A bit or perserverance has got the catch and pull going a bit better.

I usually do 15 x 100 with 30 ish sec rest - the idea being that I do 60 decent lengths that way. I did em (average 1:57) off 10 sec rest today with far less effort expended too. Nice and controlled.

Bionic Ironwolf    pirate
14/04/2009 at 21:26

tonight's tri club training:

800m easy warmup (200 crawl/100 breast/200 crawl/100back/200 crawl)

6 x 100m with 1 sprint in each 50m

3 x 400m (1st with pull bouy, breathing every 2nd and 3rd stroke)
                  (2nd fast)
                  (3rd alternating zipper and fingertip drills every 100m)

800m cool down.

WildWill    pirate
17/04/2009 at 13:16
short drill session today of

Drill session
400m W/U
2 x (
100m Catch Up
100m 1-armed
100m Finger tip drag
100m fist drill
)
300m Breathing drills
300m Warm down

Bionic Ironwolf    pirate
17/04/2009 at 21:03

club training tonight:

800m easy warmup

400m technique drills with pull bouy - 100m pull only, 100m open hand/fist, 100m fist/open hand, 100m pull only.

4 x 300m (100m breathing every 3rd and 4th stroke/100m fast/100m with only 4 breaths every 50m)

2x 200m fast

400m warm down.

TR
17/04/2009 at 22:24

still trying to perservere with better technique

swam a 1500 in 30:40 and a 1k in 20:20 this week. took a few lap times and found that it still works better the more I concentrate on technique and slowing it all down. Was far less exhausted too.

reckon I'd be quicker in a longer pool cos my turns are slow.

17/04/2009 at 23:09

hi,

I keep get cramp in the bottom  of my feet after swimming between 20 to 30 lengths on an 33 metre pool.  Any advice on prevention this?

 cheers

IronNina    pirate
18/04/2009 at 10:13
JDM, I used to get this and put it down to dehydration / loss of salt so I always take water with a Nuun tablet in to the pool now and haven't had a problem since.

Doing the swimathon today: 5k in aid of Marie Curie Cancer charity. This will be the longest distance I'll have swum - wibble, wibble! I shall be a shrivelled soggy lump by the end of it but will so enjoy the pizza afterwards

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