Cr@p Swimmers R Us

Swimming Support Thread

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Blisters    pirate
23/03/2013 at 20:35

Fantastic news all round then guys!

Jamie, please check that seat, you left behind a wet patch and some scales.

05/04/2013 at 14:47

For a bit of variety in the drills I bought some Speedo swim fins, anything to beat the boredom of following the blue line up & down up & down.

I understand they are good for building endurance, strength & burn more calories but not much good for technique.

So I wont be over using them but any drill suggestions with fins for a self confessed Mr Droopy Legs?

Bionic Ironwolf    pirate
05/04/2013 at 19:35

Hold a kickboard in front of you so that you isolate your legs, then just go up and down the pool using your legs only.

Blisters    pirate
10/04/2013 at 12:55

Bugger bugger bugger

I'm currently enduring a total ban on swimming, due to getting a very nasty ear infection. I've just completed a week's course of double dose antibiotics, ear drops and ibuprofen, but am still banned for at least another week.

I'm not sure which was worse: the alcohol ban, not being allowed to snack between meals, or missing out on swimming.

I've had about 2 weeks without training now.

10/04/2013 at 14:52

You really have got to let ear infections clear up good & proper before getting back in the water, sorry to hear you're suffering.


I tried out the fins today, I can see why they are recommended for endurance building!  50 metres with them felt like 500!

Blisters    pirate
10/04/2013 at 17:56

That's interesting about the fins.
I found that I simply went twice as fast in the fins for no extra effort. Maybe I don't use my legs much.

What I did find to be an effort was when I used my scuba diving fins in the same way. Sure I went 4 times as fast, but that DID make me ache!

10/04/2013 at 19:09

Fins do make you faster if your kick technique is good.  If you have the sort of technique where you go backwards then you will just be trying to go backwards faster.

When used properly fins will increase your speed but also work your muscles more so your ankles and hips will get tired.  If they are making your knees ache then you are using poor form.  You should be kicking from the hips not the knees

10/04/2013 at 20:04
I was going faster for sure, my quads were burning after 50 metres so judging from SuperCaz comments I'm not kicking quite from the hips, knees no problem, didn't really feel anything in the ankles, I'll try them again tomorrow.
11/04/2013 at 18:50

Swam 1500 m last night - the pool had taken up the 25m barrier so it was in a 50 metre pool!   My kick drills were interesting!  My technique is getting better and my swim "fitness" is improving.  I know when Im getting a bit tired I notice my legs starting to kick from the knee and getting out of rhythm  Might have to find me some fins!  Do you wear them just when you are doing your kick drills or when you are doing freestyle?

11/04/2013 at 19:22

You can wear then when doing full stroke but its fairly pointless as your arms won't be pulling any water if you are travelling at any speed.  I used to use them with my hands out in front, rather than with a kickboard as the increased speed also makes it easier to work on your streamlining and positioning in the water.  You can work on your rotation too.

Quads are joined to the hips, so you might use your quads a bit when using fins.  To be honest I haven't used them for 20 years so I'm struggling to remember how it felt.

12/04/2013 at 08:42
Blisters, I think there are some paddles that can help with technique. These ones are supposed to be better than most as they are more 'flexable' on your hands. So, if your technique is wrong, then when you use these it exaggerates the issue. Conversly, if it's right it feels right!
Sorry, can't do the linky thing on ipad!
12/04/2013 at 11:28


The two hour-long laned sessions I can make at my local pool are both at the end of their working day - 9-10pm on Thursdays and 5-6pm on Saturdays. So despite these being 60mins long, you have to leave the pool early in order to shower/change before being booted out!

So last night had my best swim - aiming for 3k per hour on race day and managed 2.8k continuous fc before having to leave after about 56mins to squeeze in shower & change in time to race out at 10pm! Know I am on target for my swim pace, but would love to get the full 3k done in 60mins as a confidence boost!

Can't wait for open water season to start...


12/04/2013 at 12:52

After an absence from this thread for well over a year, I am pleased to report I am back swimming.

Taking it very easy to start with but was immediately moved up a lane after only 4 lengths last night.  That was quite a confidence boost for me, especially as I could hold my own against the two guys in the lane with me

I am not training for anything specific at the mo as I find that is detrimental to my progress.  I am just swimming for the fun of it and will enter something when my head is in the right place.

Blisters - I have paid my membership to Lake 32.  Will I be seeing you there at all?.  I am hoping to bring Jr Schmunks (aged 13) with me as he is doing Tri Club


WildWill    pirate
12/04/2013 at 12:56
Schmunkee - The List Fairy wrote (see)

After an absence from this thread for well over a year, I am pleased to report I am back swimming. 

About time 

Edited: 12/04/2013 at 12:56
12/04/2013 at 14:14

DF, I hope to be able to get in the sea on Sunday.  The water is a balmy 8 degrees now so I hope to be able to stay in for longer than 20min for a change.

And Schmunks is the best list fairy ever.

If there is anyone who can make it over to the Nene then I would be happy to accommpany them on a river swim at some point.  I plan to be in there a lot myself over the next 3 months

Iron Pingu    pirate
12/04/2013 at 14:23

Caz what position do you have your head in when you're swimming, I've been told conflicting things.

I used to swim with my head slightly up so I can see where I'm going (as I was told) but have now read that swimming looking down brings your legs up and puts your body in a better position.

12/04/2013 at 14:52

I was originally taught that the water line should be roughly where your swim cap sits across your forehead and for 30 years I swam like that.

A couple of years ago I was told to look more towards the bottom of the pool so I have started doing that.  It does feel easier on the neck and I can feel how it brings the feet up.  It also feels more streamlined to me.

I think that the first method is good when you are in a pool and need to be aware of where other swimmers are or the end of the lane.  I tend to swim into the back of slow breaststokers when my head is fully down because of the restricted line of sight.  But the second method is technically a better way of swimming.

To be honest, I think people place too much emphasis on the 'perfect' technique.  The perfect technique is the one that suits you and will vary from person to person.  If you know that your feet sink then try looking towards the bottom of the pool and see how it feels.  If you're not sure whether your feet sink then try it both ways and see which feels better.  Go with the method that feels comfortable, easiest and more natural.

12/04/2013 at 15:10

You might be right DF, but I am unable to determine that when I'm in the water as I can't see myself swimming.  I can only go on how it feels.

Iron Pingu    pirate
12/04/2013 at 15:12

Cheers Caz, that's kind of what I was thinking.  It does bring you feet up when you're lookking down and feels a bit easier, I'll keep doing that

12/04/2013 at 18:40

DF, firstly I seem to suffer from too much buoyancy and my feet naturally sit very high in the water, and secondly I don't use my legs.

In the sea it is common for my legs to be partially out of the water all the time.  If I wear a wetsuit then it provides so much extra buoyancy that I struggle to get my head out of the water to breathe.

What I meant was that the effect is subtle for me, so it is very hard to tell the difference other than on how the water glides over my body.

Anyhow, just come back from a terrible swim.  One of those days where everything goes wrong and it doesn't flow.

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