Cr@p Swimmers R Us

Swimming Support Thread

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25/04/2013 at 09:36

Blisters you shouldn't need much nutrition for a swim of an hour (similar rules apply as for a run).  Make sure you eat something an hour or so before getting in the water and it should be enough to see you through.  You might need water though as you still sweat in the heated water of a pool and most people don't realise that they are getting dehydrated.  You shouldn't need electrolytes unless you are one of those people who tends to sweat buckets or suffer from cramps.

25/04/2013 at 10:10

Aww, I didn't know you cared DF3

I do miss running and I have a lot of other things going on in my life which are making things very challenging for me at the moment and leaving me in an unstable state (hence some of the rather random posts recently).

But the swimming is generally going well when the shoulder injury isn't too bad.  I'm a slow to average swimmer by the standards of the people I swim with but I can keep going for hours and keep being told that I have good technique so I am happy to come on here and share what little knowledge I have.

25/04/2013 at 10:36

1625m last night in 1 hr - slower than last week (now that I have thought about it!) apparently time of day matters  need more pool time!

Blisters    pirate
25/04/2013 at 23:06

B Cup, time in the pool matters, but so does a weekly session with a trainer/coach. They only need to tell me one thing at a time, so I can focus on that for the session, but it comes together. A little bit of power, and 90% focus on drag reduction. Using my legs reduces drag more than adds power, because it lifts the body.

My nutrition/hydration issues were partly due to only getting a very light lunch, some hours before the swim, and drinking a bit of pool water. That always dehydrates. All good lessons. Remember that I've got to get out of this 3.8k swim feeling ready for a full day's biking. I just feel so chuffed that I have proven to myself that the swim bit is physically possible.

27/04/2013 at 16:47

So the sub-60 1.5k still eludes me.  Swimathon done today in 1:01:56 but not bad considering it was the longest swim (both in time and distance) that I have done for almost 2 years and I only got back in training 2 weeks ago

Blisters    pirate
27/04/2013 at 21:46

Practice Schmunks, and soon we'll be braving the great outdoors.

(I just bought some 3mm neoprene socks, hopefully they are the right sort of thing)

28/04/2013 at 10:47

In my opinion socks don't do anything to keep your feet warm, however they do delay the exposure of your feet to the cold water when you initially get in and some people prefer that.

I find the only use for socks is to protect your feet when getting in and out of the water if the ground is rough.  Some of my swims involve climbing up banks and walking around the locks and then it is nice to have something to protect from the thistles and stones

28/04/2013 at 13:02
Blisters wrote (see)

Practice Schmunks, and soon we'll be braving the great outdoors


Lake 32 is in double figures. Allegedly

Blisters    pirate
28/04/2013 at 21:16

What, 6.1 degrees?

Over 10 unlikely unless they sampled from "duck landing", "kettle poured out here", and "I've just peed in the lake". Of course there's the alternative approach: take 3 samples and nip back to the nice warm portacabin before testing them.

29/04/2013 at 20:19

The Nene is in double figures too... just

01/05/2013 at 21:12

1.5 in 50 mins (70 lengths in hr total) wasn't really feeling it tonight - was trying to see if I could do it in 40 but it didn't really happen.  Did notice my splits got faster after I started rocking in the water and reaching further

03/05/2013 at 15:17

Managing a full length FC, I do however feel completely out of breath with a high heart rate no matter how slow I go.

Blisters    pirate
06/05/2013 at 14:13

Hi Graeme, I've only been swimming for 13 months, and when I started I was exactly the same. A little tutoring and regular practice are all that's needed. I think that the tutoring is vital to be able to identify and prioritise the areas for improvement. After 4 or 6 weeks something will click.

I still have to keep remembering that water is 8 times more viscous than air, and the biggest improvements come from reducing drag rather than increasing power. Breathing more air than water also helps. That's probably the first priority. I am still only comfortable at breathing every 2nd arm stroke.

07/05/2013 at 12:50

Blisters, I've been having lessons since last last year, I couldn't swim at all before then. Something seems to have clicked recently in that I've gone from a few strokes to a full length so I am sure that the rest will come, I just feel exhausted after a length.

07/05/2013 at 13:48

That's really good going there GraemeK - just think last year you couldn't swim at all - now you can - I would be uber proud of myself if I was you.  Swimming fitness is different to running or cycling - or at least that is what I have found.  Once I got my breathing sorted and realising that going slower actually meant I swam faster (contradiction I know but it's true) my swimming improved markedly.  

Could you try the drills where you do 1 stroke, 1 breath, 2 strokes, 1 breath, 3 strokes 1 breath etc up to 7 if you can manage it? Or get a flutter board and go up and down the lane superman styles just practicing the breathing part until you get confident?

07/05/2013 at 17:19

The river was 16 degrees last night.  Time to ditch the pools guys, in favour of open water.

07/05/2013 at 19:49

Slowing my legs right down and breathing out slowly, full lengths breathing every four strokes. Easy.

Blisters    pirate
07/05/2013 at 23:35

I hear you Caz. I'm just a bit nervous about jumping into a river when nobody knows where I am or when I'm supposed to be home.

Oh, and if you've ever seen the state of the River Severn you would not want to go in it. Chocolate coloured, tidal, goes like a train, and has full trees floating down it. That's on a good day. On a bad day it gets angry.

I fancy the Avon, and there are lakes around.

PSC    pirate
08/05/2013 at 05:52

It is too cold for OW at the mo.  You can practice OW skills now though, particularly sighting. Every other stroke look up and forward. 

Edited: 08/05/2013 at 05:53
Blisters    pirate
09/05/2013 at 17:30

Despite what PSC and several of our club members have said, I decided that it was time to explore the outside world.

Following a recommendation I went to the Bristol Open Water place. The water is 5 foot deep, but milky looking from the natural clay in suspension. The swim course is 650m unless you follow my wake trail.

Today, it was blowing a hoolie, the temp was probably 12 degrees. With a gimp hat I was lovely and warm, but a bit constricted. So, I tried out with just a Pirate swim cap. Ice cream head for 150m. Interestingly, by the end of the second lap I was actually getting warmth and life back into my finger tips. Bizarre. Oh, and the waves were somewhat interesting...

Fun though, AND NO CHLORINE.

As for sighting, yes, that is an area that needs some practice. I was beginning to realise that one stroke of breast every so often could be seamlessly sneaked into the stroke pattern by just leaving the leading arm stuck out there until the other one comes along.

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