Cr@p Swimmers R Us

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26/09/2013 at 20:23

Bi - that's brilliant. I really appreciate you taking the time to write them up. I'd love it ifyou could post each session. The only triclub here trains at lunchtimes so i can't join them and i'll be on my own all winter


26/09/2013 at 20:24

Goji - thanks for the goggle tips


Blisters    pirate
26/09/2013 at 22:55

A lot of those sessions/drills sound familiar B-I. However, I don't believe that I can manage any back stroke. Certainly not a whole length without fear of damaging something or drowning.

The 2345432 stroke breathing was one of the key sessions for me to get the hang of alternate side breathing. I've still not got a natural rhythm though.

Bionic Ironwolf    pirate
27/09/2013 at 06:35

OK Molly, I'll start regular posting again. I've kept copies of all the sessions for the past couple of years, comes in handy if OH and I can't decide what to swim on a Sunday morning.

Blisters - that's what I said about butterfly until Kathrin taught me how to do it properly! Most of us have a "natural" side we breathe on, I still almost always breathe to my left. My OH does breathe on 3.

27/09/2013 at 07:59

Bionic - I too would love to read all your training sessions so please post away.

Agree with blisters a few of the drills you have posted we also do in training especially the catch-up and focusing on the 'catch' and glide. Would be good to compare notes as I have been told now that the season is over we will be focusing on technique.

Funnily the bi-lateral breathing came really easily to me, but struggle with alternate breathing - so another area I need to practice lots on!

Re: goggles, I too have tried a few pairs at the moment I am using Zoggs predator, they do leak a bit but I am not convinced any pair would be totally leak proof and mist free. I also run a bit of spit into my goggles to reduce the misting up seems to work few a bit.

Haven't swum all week as sooo tired at the moment with work and other training. But have 'hardcore' swim session tomorrow and will be aiming to go swimming 3 times again next week. 


Bionic Ironwolf    pirate
27/09/2013 at 11:48

Lisa - happy to do so. The coached sessions are always Tuesday, Thursdays and Sundays we just do our own thing.

27/09/2013 at 13:13

Do I graduate ?

managed 3.8km swim this morning .......

3.8km ( with 50m more for missed counts ) and completed in 1hr39. thats me able to make it through the easy part and out onto the bike inside cutoff. lots to do then.

but chuffed actuallly.

27/09/2013 at 13:24

3.8km!!!!! what are you doing on here! you're supposed to be cr@p!!

Well done, you should be chuffed with yourself 

Blisters    pirate
27/09/2013 at 14:20

Well done Sgt Lard, it's a big confidence booster isn't it? Obviously there's the graduation to open water to do yet. Not that it's hard, it's just different. Well done on the time, that will easily get quicker. Don't forget that transition is still against the clock.
I came out of the water at Henley in 1:43, plumb last in my age group (32nd), but overtook 4 in transition despite needing a toilet break.

27/09/2013 at 14:42

huge confidence builder. and can only get better.

busy tomorrow with daughter off to uni . no doubt lots of tears before bedtime.

then sunday is free........

01/10/2013 at 14:01

Hi everyone, can i join in?

I'm think i'm actually starting to develop a phobia about front crawl. I have shockingly bad technique that leaves me exhausted after a couple of lengths.

I find myself panicking mid length and gulping water which is a bit of a shock as i always considered myself a decent swimmer (breast stroke). Then i feel like a complete plank and make a sharp exit for the changing rooms.

I've only managed to get in the pool the last couple of visits by telling myself "no crawl"


01/10/2013 at 15:28

ghostess - I know the feeling. I could breast stroke for ages then when i tried crawl I drank half of the pool. I sorted it out by having individual lessons. Not cheap but a great investment, I probably wouldn't have learnt otherwise. Please have another try and you CAN do it I promise.

01/10/2013 at 17:42

Ghostess - I too was like this the first few times I attempted front crawl. I then joined a tri club that were able to offer me lots of pointers and give me quite a lot of one-to-one time. 6-8 weeks down the line I can now keep up with the rest of the club, unless they are doing fly stroke which frankly is never going to happen 

I have had an ephiphany - I feel like I can now swim like 'proper' like!! Now just need to build on endurance now, am hoping with all the drills that I do that this will just come with time?

Bionic Ironwolf    pirate
01/10/2013 at 21:35

Tuesday tri club session:

400m warm-up

4 x 100m dolphin kick/freestyle/back/breast

600m closed fist, alternate sides, breathe on opposite side to fist

4 x 100m  1st one breathing every 2 strokes then 3, then 4 & 5, then 5

200m, 1st 50 alternate fist/open hand, 2nd 50 fast, repeat

4 x 100m fast/slow/slow/fast

800m - count strokes for 50m, reduce by 15 next 50, Repeat

400m cool-down




Bionic Ironwolf    pirate
01/10/2013 at 21:36

How did Berlin go, Molly?

02/10/2013 at 09:18

BI - thanks for that. That'll be copied and pasted straightaway for safe keeps.

Berlin went ok, found it very congested (more than Paris & London) and because it's a potential PB course there was lots of pushing and shoving going on and wasn't as "friendly" as other maras. They ran out of medals for those finishing after 5h30 which I think it's pretty bad. Going under the Brandenburg gate made it all worthwhile though, it was fantastic and I had a good chuckle when I saw people sprinting there only to find out the finish line was 300 yards further down! Finished in 3.58.37 with even splits from start to finish so very happy with that. 

Bouncing Barlist    pirate
02/10/2013 at 10:12


Developing front crawl technique can be very frustrating but keep working at it.  Live Lisa123's ephiphany, you will have a similar experience.  Many people find that technique develops in sudden steps as certain things gel together. 

Are you swimming ok before the panic sets in, what sets it off, are you getting into oxygen debt?  If the latter, SLOW down, try to kick as little as possible, develop a flutter kick (practice kicking with a kick board). 

A few years ago I went back to basics, a new coach changes many parts of my stroke and I was going backwards for a few months, swimming was hard work and I just didnt feel like I was making progress, in the end and after lots of perseverance things started to come together.  A lot of swimming later, regular swim fit sessions (similar to tri club / masters) and I made improvements.

I can really recommend some one to one lessons or getting some personal attention at tri club.  Dont dispair, things will come together, dont put pressure on yourself to think youve got to swim 100m, 200m, take it one length at a time and focus on key aspects of your stroke, do different drills and really focus on the drill each length.

Bionic Ironwolf    pirate
02/10/2013 at 10:21

Molly, I think Berlin is now too big, others have also said it was too crowded. Each of my 5 runs there were super fun. Actually, your bit about the Brandenburg Gate made me chuckle because that's exactly what my OH did, sprinted too soon and missed his target time by 20 seconds! In his defense though, that was the first time the race had been run that way round, all previous marathons had finished on the Ku'damm.

02/10/2013 at 19:51

Ghostess just to add - have a look at the swim smooth website, loads of tips on there and you can have a look at the animated 'Mr Smooth', I gained lots of tips on there.I have also just purchased the Swim Smooth book to read as well so will report back once I have read some more.


03/10/2013 at 17:50

Thanks for the encouraging words everyone.

Yes Barlist I think I'm trying to go too quick, for some reason I'm thinking if I slow down I'll sink - though I never do when I snorkel stock still for hours 

I'm going to start Chester Tri's technique swim sessions a week on Saturday (off to Cardiff for the half this weekend). Chester's a bit of a trek on a Saturday evening but needs must. 

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