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cougie    pirate
14/06/2011 at 13:11

LOL - only one way to find out eh ?

cougie    pirate
13/09/2011 at 14:38
Just putting the Nokia Scotland Coast to Coast in for comparison.
105 miles or so - 14,810 feet of climbing. Er - thats 4514 meters ?

So er 42.99 m per mile. A lot of it on foot....

Scottish coast to coast 42.99m per mile
Aqueduct thingy - 27.9m per mile
Chiltern 100 Biggy 24.5m

Ironman Wales - 21.4m

Cheshire Cat - 20.9 m
Bike Radar - 17.4m
IMFR - 16.0m

IM Regensberg 13.39m


IMCH- 11.25m

Outlaw 11.07m

Challenge Vichy (2013 race ?) 9.6m

IMDE - 8.69 m
Dustboy    pirate
15/09/2011 at 00:23

Was looking at Smiffy's Tootles Loop the other day.

About 33M per mile - ish.

But apparently he's looking at summat with some lumps in now.

27/10/2011 at 21:34

Saw this Tour du Mont Blanc Cyclo

Supposed to be 205 miles and 8,000 metres climbing - well according to someone else - 39 metres per mile !

Anyone know the route at all ?

Dustboy    pirate
27/10/2011 at 21:57
Beginners guide we did the other week was 25.2M per mile but only 35 miles. Still, tough course.
27/10/2011 at 22:21

Get yourselves to the Alpes in early July next year and have a crack at La Marmotte. 5000m of climbing over 110 miles. 45.45 metres per mile of climbing. Takes in Col du Glandon, Telegraphe and the massive Galibier and the sting in the tale of finishing up the Alpe d'Huez.

Not very fit last year and had it entered. Managed 100 miles and had to pack at the base of L'Alpe d'Huez as I was outside the time limit ( and just about totally knackered! ). It is a beast of a day out but great fun. Did the route in 2005 just as a day out with my brother and bro in law. Awesome place to be.

http://www.gastrobiking.com/cyclosportive/marmotte-route.html

Edit; not suggesting go with this company just the route details. Gastrobiking is just the site I got to for the route.

Edited: 27/10/2011 at 22:23
27/10/2011 at 23:15
Did it this year Chilli - it is indeed a great event - probably end up doing it again in 2012 as most of my club seem to want to go back and have another go.
28/10/2011 at 10:30
pops - I know that TMB route - not ridden it but driven various parts of it at times when we had a gaff in Chamonix.

I could well believe the distance and climbing is right. it's a clockwise route by the looks of it but I don't think it would make much difference which way round you go in terms of difficulty. the climbs aren't oversteep - not HC category for sure - just long and the long one up the Col de Petit St Bernard will be a leg tester. it's on main roads by the looks of the towns they go through which also means the climbs won't be too steep although as with all Alpine roads, there will be the odd steeper sections.

it's a long long day in the saddle

it's one of the the many ways of doing a trip around Mt Blanc - there's an MTB version as well as the famous running version, UltraTrail du Mt Blanc.
cougie    pirate
07/01/2013 at 16:02

Updating for the Fred Whitton challenge details.

Scottish coast to coast 42.99m per mile

Fred Whitton 30.89m per mile
Aqueduct thingy - 27.9m per mile
Chiltern 100 Biggy 24.5m

Ironman Wales - 21.4m

Cheshire Cat - 20.9 m
Bike Radar - 17.4m 
IMFR - 16.0m

IM Regensberg 13.39m


IMCH- 11.25m

Outlaw 11.07m

Challenge Vichy (2013 race ?) 9.6m

IMDE - 8.69 m

M.r Zuvai    pirate
07/01/2013 at 16:07

anybody know where Henley sits in this list?

i suppose untill the bike course is finalised no one will!

seren nos    pirate
07/01/2013 at 16:12

i thought outlaw was flat.............

 

i keep on missing out on the wesh dragon ride in south wales..........128 miles aqnd 3350m of climbing.....that works out at 26:17m per mile but the week after my half IM and 4 weeks before outlaw

 

M.r Zuvai    pirate
07/01/2013 at 16:15

it is! you will hardly notice oxton hill - described here often as a pimple -this is apt

the first half of the course is gently rolling - which is nice because you're not in the same position all the time!

TheEngineer    pirate
07/01/2013 at 18:14

I like this! This tells me IMCH is only a bit worse than Outlaw. 

cougie    pirate
07/01/2013 at 18:50
Outlaw was very flat I thought. You could do it on the big ring.
IMCH isn't too bad but I think that data may be for the old route ?
08/01/2013 at 12:59

Added in Etape Cymru, which I found MILES harder than IM Wales, but appears initially to be comparable. So I checked the maths and I wonder where some of the data is coming from. I believe IM Wales has 1,220 metres of "up", so just 10.9m/mile. Likewise, I think last year's Outlaw had 496m of up, which makes just 4.3m/mile. If I'm right, perhaps the variance can be explained by the well known Iron-Ego Inflation Coefficient?

That said, I might be talking right out of my starfish as oft times before, so I won't change the numbers below.

Scottish coast to coast 42.99m per mile
Fred Whitton 30.89m
Aqueduct thingy - 27.9m
Chiltern 100 Biggy - 24.5m
Etape Cymru - 21.7m
Ironman Wales - 21.4m
Cheshire Cat - 20.9 m
Bike Radar - 17.4m
IMFR - 16.0m
IM Regensberg 13.39m
IMCH- 11.25m
Outlaw 11.07m
Challenge Vichy (2013 race ?) 9.6m
IMDE - 8.69 m

cougie    pirate
08/01/2013 at 13:16

STIL - by all means change the figures if you've found newer stuff - they do change the courses.  I've just found a bikely track for the outlaw that gives it as 944 meters for the route -  so that would give it as 8.4m - still the flattest we have - which ties in with my thoughts ?

 

I've found a track for IMWales - http://www.bikemap.net/route/1614402#lat=51.715050122735&lng=-4.8861050000001&zoom=11&maptype=ts_terrain that gives it as 15.6 m/mile.  I dont think it could be 10.9 - but I've not ridden that one to compare. 15.6 sounds plausible to me ?

 

Scottish coast to coast 42.99m per mile
Fred Whitton 30.89m 
Aqueduct thingy - 27.9m 
Chiltern 100 Biggy - 24.5m
Etape Cymru - 21.7m
Ironman Wales - 21.4m or is it 10.9m or 15.6m ??
Cheshire Cat - 20.9 m 
Bike Radar - 17.4m 
IMFR - 16.0m
IM Regensberg 13.39m
IMCH- 11.25m
Outlaw 11.07m
Challenge Vichy (2013 race ?) 9.6m
IMDE - 8.69 m

Outlaw 2012 8.4m


08/01/2013 at 14:02

Odd. Your IMW routes from "bikemap" suggest 5,700ft, but all of the ones logged at Mapmyride say 4,000ft for the same route, which I make 1,200m. I don't know which one is right...... if either ! But I've ridden the route twice and it's not an especially hard bike ride if you don't have to run 26 miles afterwards. Certainly nothing like Etape Cymru.

Similar with the Outlaw. Mapmyride has this year's elevation as 488 metres (671 the year before). Bikely has it at 944. Erm.... don't know, mate! Anyway - hill brick at Burton Marshes beckons .

 

Edited: 08/01/2013 at 14:05
Dustboy    pirate
08/01/2013 at 14:19

My Garmin shows Outlaw as 2457 elevation for 2012. Assuming that's feet(LOL), thats er,  744.5M? It wasn't a tough bike from an upsy downsy point of view. BTW exactly which bit WAS Oxton Bank?

08/01/2013 at 14:42

It was that bit when you thought, ah, finally a bump, then about 3 minutes later thought "was that IT?" About 13/ to a half the way round from memory?

Really wasnt anything to comment on from memory.

Just looking, I had 1261ft (388m) ascent for Outlaw and 3252ft (1001m) for Regensburg! Both 111 miles

cougie    pirate
08/01/2013 at 15:47
So I think we can agree that a lot of these figures aren't that accurate !

We are all over the place ! Outlaw was very flat though. Flatter than any IM I've done I think.
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