Fatman to Ironman

Another Ironman journey

6,021 to 6,040 of 10,137 messages
03/10/2012 at 21:12

Personally, i`m not a fan of this whole move to midfoot/forefoot striking. Where you land is totally relevent to the speed you are running. Sub 5 min miles, forefoot. Sub 6, midfoot. Above 7, heel. The moment you `try` and run a certain way, that`s when, imo, the problems start. If you ask a young child to pick something up off the floor, they don`t bend over like us adults do, they use perfect lifting technique and nobody teaches them it. Same when they run, they instinctively use good form.  Most running injuries are caused by over use or poor gait because of muscle imbalances or weeknesses.  Go to any race and peoples arms and legs are all over the place. Most runners do little or no strength work, so just running a certain way just makes the imbalances worse. Sinajestic domminance is when the body finds it easier to let a strong muscle (or group of) do the work a weaker muscle should. For example, your glutes not firing properly because the stronger (relative) hamstrings are doing the work. Resulting in the hamstrings becoming over worked and the glutes staying weak. To avoid injuries you need to have an all round fitness and listen to your body. You normally get warning signs before an injury becomes full blown and stops you training.  If you strength is `balanced`, you have a degree of core strength and you reasonably supple, you should run with ok form and have few injuries. I don`t think `trying` to run a certain way is the answer.


IronCat5    pirate
03/10/2012 at 21:14

I wondered who had the injury baton now Meldy. Glad to pass it on.

When I started running I read that midfoot was the new thing. I started from heel striking then went to forefoot. That was a few weeks on intense calf pain. Then I rocked back to midfoot and the pain started to go away.

Now I'm a committed midfoot striker. Some would say I'm slightly heavy on the footfall (well known in my club for percussive runnning).

I see what you're saying DOM, though we are all different.

Edited: 03/10/2012 at 21:19
Rafiki    pirate
03/10/2012 at 21:15

+ 1 for M..eldy said!! A gradual change is a good idea.

Newtons will encourage to land mid-foot. You may find it hard to consciously change to mid foot in your current shoes, I know I did.

M..eldy - the guys at Runner's Retreat in Marlow are worth talking to - they are both qualified Natural running coaches.

WildWill    pirate
03/10/2012 at 21:43
I'd say don't sweat it

Don't go for a drastic change or you'll just end up injured

Instead include a regular drills session and a regular focus on cadence ...

.. Simples
04/10/2012 at 08:31
From the get go I seem to have used a mid foot strike (something to do with a background in 200m / 400m track running perhaps).

For years I used a mix of standard supportive Nike / Asics shoes although in the past few years I have been using Newtons and am happy with their performance in as much as I feel "faster" wearing them. I've seen a few people from my local club try the forefoot approach only to injury themselves by not taking long enough to adapt to the new method.

As mentioned above, I'm a firm believer in core work, drills etc and once a year I get a gait and muscle balance MOT from a physio to adress anything that may have "slipped" over the previous year.

In this way I hope to make suitable amends via the weights room, power bands, muscle rollers etc etc and therefore reduce the risk of imbalance injuries. Or that's the plan anyway....
04/10/2012 at 08:36
Always form before footwear :0)
seren nos    pirate
04/10/2012 at 08:38

dreaming of magic...........i think the same as you regarding the whole running marlarkey.......After all these years i am just starting tio do something about my weak core

M...eldy    pirate
04/10/2012 at 12:23
Happychap wrote (see)
Always form before footwear :0)

She's a wise old bird that one 

Britrisky    pirate
04/10/2012 at 12:33

On Brighton Marathon two folk were actually running barefoot!! (Mind you, I did see on of them in trainers later on ... )

Nurse Ratched    pirate
04/10/2012 at 14:02
Britrisky wrote (see)

On Brighton Marathon two folk were actually running barefoot!! (Mind you, I did see on of them in trainers later on ... )

Dog poo and broken glass...................luvverly.


Just been out on the bike for an hour, first time in 3 weeks.  Everything feels fine 

04/10/2012 at 17:59
Nice one nursey!
04/10/2012 at 18:23
I saw those two barefoot blokes. One looked less happy at mile 22.
04/10/2012 at 18:37
Evening all. 2.5 mile bike ride, no knee pain, whoop, whoop

On the negative side, couldnt find my cycle helmet, turns out i left it at Barrow after the challenge, grrrr. 2 hr round trip drive to pick that up tomorrow now.
M...eldy    pirate
04/10/2012 at 18:57

HC are you doing Beachy this year?    Anyone else venturing down to conquer the 7 bitches ?? 

Rafiki    pirate
04/10/2012 at 19:35
Nurse Ratched wrote (see)
Britrisky wrote (see)

On Brighton Marathon two folk were actually running barefoot!! (Mind you, I did see on of them in trainers later on ... )

Dog poo and broken glass...................luvverly.


Not in Brighton Nursey...they're rather posh down there! But the bloke I saw at the Great North the other week barefoot....well that's a differnent matter running through Tyneside!

19 mile LSR for me today...one more to do before start to taper!

04/10/2012 at 19:45

Yup, at Beachy again and this year I'm bringing Toucs with me.  He's threatened to stay with me but I'm sure a pitched whine at the start will get rid of him.  Me and them bitches need some lovin' time.

And I'm definitely bringing shoes with me

M...eldy    pirate
04/10/2012 at 19:50

Ohh thats good .. you might need shoes more than Toucs  

IronCat5    pirate
04/10/2012 at 20:37

I had my fill of Bitches last year. A great day out with some fantastic scoff. Taking the kids to Eurodisney instead this year!

04/10/2012 at 21:14
Hill reps for me tonight at running club..ouch!
05/10/2012 at 08:19
So, what's everyone's plans for the weekend then?
I'm doing 10 mile run tomorrow then 60 mile cycle on Sunday.
So that's me done!
Previously bookmarked threads are now visible in "Followed Threads". You can also manage notifications on these threads from the "Forum Settings" section of your profile settings page to prevent being sent an email when a reply is made.
Forum Jump  

RW Forums