Fatman to Ironman

Another Ironman journey

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Nurse Ratched    pirate
22/02/2013 at 09:55

Rather nippy here, but instead of driving the 25 mile round trip to the chemist to pick up my prescription, I'm going to bike it.

Some good swimming going on folks

iron fraggle    pirate
22/02/2013 at 10:02

brave Nursey!

M...eldy    pirate
22/02/2013 at 10:26

25 miles is good ... just as your toes start to go numb its time to come back again !

I dont have another long one planned until middle of next week so hopefully spring will have arrived by then

FoC
22/02/2013 at 10:37

Interesting chat this morning in the pool with a lady who only swims with a pull bouy.  She argued that since she competes in wet suited open water events, the bouy mimics the body position she normally gets with the suit on.  She also mentioned a kick, for her at least, wasn't something she really bothered with.

An interesting viewpoint and one I've seen on at least one other thread here.  For me this type of approach is counter intuative.  I would rather work on the mechanics of the whole stroke and achieve a suitable position in the water with or without a suit.  Goodness knows what would happen to this lady should the water be deemed to warm for suits?

That said, each to thier own. 

M...eldy    pirate
22/02/2013 at 10:47

Donkey ... Seren is exactly the same, not for the want of nagging thats for sure !!

Rafiki    pirate
22/02/2013 at 11:21

I'm with Seren - a lot easier. The following (badly written) article did it for me .. pull bouys

Nurse Ratched    pirate
22/02/2013 at 12:13

It's trying to snow 

FoC
22/02/2013 at 12:28

Rafiki - thaanks for the link.  I'm still to be convinced although I follow the logic

The "what if" issue of not being able to use a suit come race day is too much of a deal breaker for me.

22/02/2013 at 12:42

All this swimming talk..... I'm reading Chrissie Wellington's book. She said she does a 10km session - 100 x 100m intervals - WTF??

M...eldy    pirate
22/02/2013 at 12:54

I have just seen a tweet by Jodie Swallow who has done 10 x 600 and I thought that was extreme enough
I guess thats why they are at the top of their game and we are nowhere near them

The Silent Assassin    pirate
22/02/2013 at 13:15

Is the training thread for this year then?

 

If so I have just written my training plan and like all good training plans it starts with a rest day, just as well, knackered I am after all that writing

 

WildWill    pirate
22/02/2013 at 13:19

ive done a couple of 10k's open water 

but the longest ive done in a pool is 7.5k (as WU, 7x1k, WD)

 

But then i'm a fan of long swims rather than short intervals

Edited: 22/02/2013 at 13:20
FoC
22/02/2013 at 13:33

Gift from my OH.  A new book by the Finks.  Some weekend reading

http://s4.runnersworld.co.uk/members/images/436672/gallery/fink_0.jpg?width=350

Edited: 22/02/2013 at 13:36
M...eldy    pirate
22/02/2013 at 13:47
The Silent Assassin wrote (see)

Is the training thread for this year then?

 

If so I have just written my training plan and like all good training plans it starts with a rest day, just as well, knackered I am after all that writing

 

Welcome aboard SA !

22/02/2013 at 14:04

interesting about the pull buoy - I am loads faster with one, but that just points out to me how bad my leg position and kick are. Being a bit of a perfectionist I would like to swim well with and without a wetsuit so I will persevere, but might have one swim ever so often just with a pull-buoy for fun!

that book looks good ID - might treat myself!

22/02/2013 at 14:17
ID, is that Melds on the front cover?
M...eldy    pirate
22/02/2013 at 14:20

Only in my dreams Sossige ....









no broomstick .. before you say it  

22/02/2013 at 14:22
I dont bother with kicking too much when i'm swimming. Probably explains some of my slowness. I have enough trouble coordinating two arms let alone two legs as well.

Going to concentrate on this billateral breathng for now. Apparently this will really help with my rotation & keeping me more symetrical. Once ive nailed that, can look at using the spare limbs more
22/02/2013 at 14:23
Thanks for spoiling the fantasy
22/02/2013 at 14:23

Speaking of kick....

I've been getting lessons over the past couple of months. I've never had any official swim training but grew up around the Great Lakes (in the USA) so never had an issue with being in danger of drowning or whatever.  I was advised by other Ironpeople to "save your legs" and minimize the kick as you'll want your legs on the bike and in the run.  My coach brought up a very interstesting point.  In the couple weeks leading up to IMKY, my home event, the pros will often stop by our swim center to train.  She says you never see them just dragging their legs along.  They all have a good kick.  

So if the pros think it's important to kick, why not the rest of us?  Not that you want to have a 100 mph kick for 90 minutes but you do want to help propel yourself along and keep a good flat body position.  As I was once told: head down, ass up.  It's much harder to swim if you're dragging your legs.

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