Fatman to Ironman

Another Ironman journey

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iron fraggle    pirate
22/04/2013 at 21:33

^ nice !

Nurse Ratched    pirate
23/04/2013 at 08:26

Glad to hear you're on the mend Fraggle.

Our lovely local GB age grouper was in the pool with me yesterday, and she got me to practise drafting her (she did have to slow down a fair bit!).  I was surprised just how much difference I could feel.  She also swam over the top of me a couple of times to give me an idea how that feels. Interesting enough in the controlled environment of the pool, must be a shocker in OW.  I did explain that there would be nobody behind me to swim over me at Outlaw!

Nurse Ratched    pirate
23/04/2013 at 08:27

Oh, and Will - you're mental

Edited: 23/04/2013 at 08:27
M...eldy    pirate
23/04/2013 at 09:33

^^   what she said !

Fraggle ... sounds like an ideal come back ride to me, please wear plenty of padding tho, we know what you are like 

I shall have a quick run after work before a little social coffee drinking  

Rafiki    pirate
23/04/2013 at 09:39

Well I ignored all advice (I am a bloke after all ) and went back to my old, minimalist running shoes this morning and had the most enjoyable run I've had for months. Even think I might be able to finish the IM run now!

But here's a question for you - who has right of way on a pavement (sidewalk for you IY). I was running on the right hand pavement, with the traffic coming towards me. As I approached a petrol station (gas station IY), a man in a Jag started to head for the exit, which meant crossing the piece of pavement I had probably just entered. Now, i looked at him and he was watchnig the traffic coming down the hill, as you would, but I thought any moment he'll look up, see me, slow down and smile. No way, he just kept looking up the road and drove start at the piece of tarmac I was occupying!!. I managed to put a couple of long strides in and he must have missed me by an inch or two - still oblivious to my presence!

Now I would have though as he is a motorise vehicle crossing a pavement, he should give way (there are no white lines anywhere) - which I pointed out to him in a polite, succinct manner!

Two miles later a women pulled out of her drive and did the same thing!!

So who was in the right??

Nurse Ratched    pirate
23/04/2013 at 09:46

As fas as I'm aware Raf, vehicles always have to give way to pedestrians.  Meldy will have the answer.

23/04/2013 at 09:50

Raf I'd say you were right, cars never have a "right" to hit a person.

Also if you're pulling onto a road you have to give way to oncoming traffic whether it's car, horse, bike or person.


Rafiki    pirate
23/04/2013 at 09:54

I expect mistress M.eldy will know - but her judgement may be clouded by the fact she believes anyone would have the right to hit me

M...eldy    pirate
23/04/2013 at 10:01

I would say unless the pavement has marking which clearly state that it has ended (as you get with cycle paths et.c) then the veh is crossing the pavement which makes the person who is on the pavement the one with right of way. The driver of the veh should be taking due care and attention when crossing and joining the flow of traffic .... or put simply, have a bit of common sense !!

M...eldy    pirate
23/04/2013 at 10:03

Damn .... I missed Rafis post !!

23/04/2013 at 12:37

Halfway through IM UK training.  Better get serious!

23/04/2013 at 13:02
Can I officially call myself bilingual now? After reading these forums and Doggie's blog, I'm impressed I understand it all. "I was running near the petrol station on the pavement and a lorry nearly took me out but it hit a bin instead!"
Rafiki    pirate
23/04/2013 at 13:12

Very impressive IY! Next we'll have to work on spelling....colour, programme, .....

Nurse Ratched    pirate
23/04/2013 at 13:19

Just been out for a wee spin.  I was rather pleased at doing the first 12 miles in 40 mins, then I turned to head home and realised just why I had felt I was flying along.  The homeward half took an hour and 15 mins. Jeeeeezus, it's windy.  Having to pedal to get downhill is not a lot of fun.

Rafiki    pirate
23/04/2013 at 13:25

I know the feeling Nursey! One route I do takes in part of the Windsor Olly course - a long straight road. Its a great feeling flying down there at 26, 27 mph until you realise its wind assisted and its going to be one long hard slog back!!

23/04/2013 at 13:32

Good work everyone.  Sooo nice to see the sun once in a while.

Quick question.  As I've mentioned before, I'm planning on tackling the full distance in the summer of '14.  By then I'll be the proud Dad of a 3 and a half year old and, fingers crossed, another very small bundle of joy.

Has anyone any advice or experience of training for the full distance in similar circumstances?  I'm really interested in seeing how people cope with the training, the lack of sleep etc etc.

I'm of the mind that it's doable and that organisation will be key.  I'm also coming around to the view that I'll roll out a minimal training plan as proposed by Matt Fitzgerald et al which seems really interesting and very unlike anything I've done in the past.

Anyway - any advice as ever greatly received. 

iron fraggle    pirate
23/04/2013 at 13:39

Good luck Donkey! my kids are older so I can leave them for a an hour or so while i run or bike, i guess a turbo and dreadmill may have to be the answer ? or babyjogger so you can take one of them with you while you run? 


loving the sunshine today; am going for a run later while No2 son is warming up for diving, and I may have to dig the shorts out of the cupboard (and also apologise to the residents of Reading for the sight of my brilliant blue/white legs  )

Rafiki    pirate
23/04/2013 at 13:42

That's an intereting article ID - some of it makes sense! I like the bit  about the running, espcially as I've been inmjured unti recently so upped the bike to replace runs. I'll find out if it works in a little over 3 weeks!!

23/04/2013 at 15:17
IronDonkey wrote (see)

Has anyone any advice or experience of training for the full distance in similar circumstances?  I'm really interested in seeing how people cope with the training, the lack of sleep etc etc.

ID - I've kept an eye on this thread as doing my first IM distance event this year (9 weeks and counting...) and have a three and a half year old son, and daughter just turned two. Have done three HIM's in last two years whilst working full time as a bit of background to me!

For various reasons, my other half and I took the leap of both leaving work to re-train in other walks of life... has this presented the perfect opportunity to go for the full distance? I am now a stay-at-home dad, and I train in the evenings when Mrs MTH comes home from work as she wants time with the kids. Suits me, and then once a week (in the week) I go for a long bike ride whilst a set of grandparents have the kids for 3/4/5 hours; and train early morning, and late evening at the weekends to leave time for all of us on Sat/Sundays in the day.

What has struck me as under-estimated is the 'extra training' you get pushing the pushchair, carrying kids about, chucking them around etc in addition to your normal training (I follow Fink - but would definately cut this back to 22 or 24 weeks if did this mularky again)

Only my thoughts... and may be a load of rubbish as haven't completed the distance yet!

23/04/2013 at 17:02
Ive stuck to Fink pretty much bang on until a few weeks ago. I had to change the days around & ramp up the running to get ready for VLM though. I havent done the Fink swim drills or running in different zone business.

Difficult to say if i would do the same again until ive completed the IM. Although ive got Slateman in 4 weeks time, will probably be a good test on how my fitness has come on.

Definitely think the first 6 weeks was a bit pointless as i was already doing more than that anyway, so reducing the plan to 24 weeks wouldnt be a biggy, unless you were starting from nothing.

I'm know expert though.

Walking a bit easier today, although stairs are still a bit challenging
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