Fink for Outlaw 2012

All training together! :-)

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IronCat5    pirate
19/10/2011 at 22:25


It coincides nicely with the usual family weekend away. We're staying in Hastings or thereabouts.

19/10/2011 at 22:27
brill thanks i will have a look at that.
Trogs    pirate
19/10/2011 at 23:55
Artful Hen  wrote (see)

ST - You probably weren't, but don't be lured into thinking  you can get away with not doing too much - as tempting, and reassuring as it might be to hear that someone did really well on not much training. 

Cautionary tale:-

My first IM was NZ which happens in early March so required training through the winter. 

  • I come from a running background so am happy to run in any weather - except icy/snow. 
  • I like swimming so having to do all my swimming in the pool, while boring as hell, was not a problem. 
  • The bike is my weakest discipline.  I am a fair weather cylclist and absolutely hate cycling when it's cold and/or wet.  I am also inherently lazy and lack the disclipline to spend more than 1hr on the turbo.

So, I swam and ran regulary and happily.  If it was dry and not too cold I pedalled, mostly 30-50 miles. I managed about two 1hr turbo sessions.  I never rode more than 70 miles and only did that once (the Hell of the Ashdown sportive - it snowed!)

Result - Swim was great. On the bike,I was fine up to about 65 miles then suffered big time, not helped by allowing my nutriton plan to go out of the window. Only two things kept me going: one was thinking of the virtual support from friends, pirate and otherwise, who would be tracking my progress online; the other was the knowledge that, as long as I made it inside the bike cutoff, I could complete the run leg within the 6.5hrs remaining to the 17hr cutoff.  I finished with 25mins to spare, too mentally and physically tired to really enjoy the achievement.

My second ironman was Challenge Roth (July) with a more challenging bike course. In training I did about the same amount of swimming, quite a lot less running and, along with fairly regular 30-40mile rides, completed four 75-80 mile sprortives.   My swim quicker, bike approx 45mins faster and significantly more comfortable and run was about the same. With less time wasted in transition, I knocked an hour off my finish time and was able to enjoy the experience much more.

Moral: concentrate on your weakest disclipline and don't skimp on the long sessions on the bike - unless you enjoy pain and suffering .

20/10/2011 at 06:56

So many pearls of wisdom here already. Thanks Trogs.

I'm starting to wonder how anyone does the IM distance without all of this help and advice. We are very fortunate to have Pirates on our side. Pirates rock!

Bedders..    pirate
20/10/2011 at 08:51

Interesting thread.

Just a word for all those who are doing this as their second IM - I found number 2 much harder than the first as I had lost that fear factor and thought having done it, then it would be OK on slightly less training. Nope, t'was harder and was a real wake up call. So for Outlaw I am upping the training........will go with Fink intermediate as long as I can then if needs be drop down. But whichever plan I do I will try and stick to Fink's Intermediate cycling plan.       

20/10/2011 at 08:55
You won't need to drop down, Bedders.
M...eldy    pirate
20/10/2011 at 09:13
Marshman is likely for me ... mother lives in Hastings so I have no reason not to!!

Bala could be well placed as well Phil dependant on where you are in the world, May time may be ideal but I would say as long as it is not less than 4 weeks out then you should be ok
bburn plO.dder    pirate
20/10/2011 at 09:35

Marshman sounds ideal, but is a very long way from home for me.

When are they likely to publish the date for Bala, and does it sell out quickly - thinking about funds! I have already spent a fortune recently on a new bike and Outlaw entry!! Not sure I can get away with much more before Christmas.

Ohh, Bala looks hilly

M...eldy    pirate
20/10/2011 at 10:48
Bala is hilly but its a beautiful course

They will all sell out quite quickly and get quicker each year but as far as I can remember Bala wont open til after Christmas
20/10/2011 at 10:59
O.rangeCannon... wrote (see)

gordo tips - all good reading......

gordos golden rules

4 pillars

basic ironman week

gordo tips index

Other essential listening for newbies......imtalk

Great stuff here, OC.  Love Gordo.
20/10/2011 at 11:50
Bala is open for entries   
M...eldy    pirate
20/10/2011 at 11:52
I stand corrected !
Razor51    pirate
20/10/2011 at 17:30
OC....thanks for the links mate.....makes sense...
20/10/2011 at 17:47

Been thinking of my goals for the Outlaw next year, this year was my first iron distance so although great fun was a massive eye opener. I think my targets will be

Swim 75 mins (87 in 2011)

Bike 6hrs (6.27 in 2011)

Run 4hrs (4.43 in 2011)

So with T1&2 included should bring me in around 11.30-11.45 taking roughly an hour off this years time of 12.50.

Need a better start in the swim, not mess around in T1, sort my bike position out and i'm considering turning every 2hr+ bike into a brick with at least a 15 min run.

75.6.4 is easy to remember for me too.

Oh and beat Gladys

20/10/2011 at 18:30
I've got to have a look at the plans that Gladys sent me as I don't know whether to use the "just finish" or intermediate one. I did the Vitruvian this year in 6:44 on the back of almost no training - 4 open water swim sessions, longest ride of about 40km aside from one 100km sportive back in March and longest run of 10 miles after a HM in May.

I realise I'll DNF without sticking to a proper training plan, and hopefully doing that will help me lose some weight which will help as well.

Apart from finishing in one piece as my goal I don't know what times I should be aiming for.
M...eldy    pirate
20/10/2011 at 18:41
I think everybodys goal should be to beat Gladys

Keeeeeeeeeeep Mincing 
bburn plO.dder    pirate
20/10/2011 at 18:42
Finish in one piece, 16.59.59 will do for me!! That's my only goal
20/10/2011 at 18:46
Simple goal for me - just bloody finish inside cut off with a smile;)
20/10/2011 at 18:52
Same as just finish would be my goal and then find Cake for post outlaw gunniess and rum
Orca    pirate
20/10/2011 at 18:57

Hi Folks, Unfortunately I can't make Outlaw next year as I'm doing IM Austria which is the same day. However I'm also planning on following Fink so can I join too please, pretty please

IM Austria will be Number 3 for me with IM Switzerland in 2009 and a 2 hour improvement at IM Regensburg earlier this year. Right, I'm off to read back from the beginning to see what I missed.

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