Fink for Outlaw 2012

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M...eldy    pirate
21/10/2011 at 10:40
I would start with the beginner one and move up if you are coping with the training and recovery, its much easier on the mind than starting with the Competitive and having to drop down
Golden Boots    pirate
21/10/2011 at 11:32
Just wondering - when is 30 weeks away from the Outlaw? Just wondering that is all
Doner Kebab    pirate
21/10/2011 at 11:35
5 Dec
M...eldy    pirate
21/10/2011 at 11:38
Etched on most peoples calendars!!
21/10/2011 at 12:34

Whichever programme people start on, it'll feel pretty easy at first.  It won't feel like IM training.  If you're a runner the runs will be easy; if you're a biker the bikes will be piffling.  But you'll be getting used to doing two workouts on some days, and getting into a rhythm and before long you'll be well into it and it'll be getting more challenging.

Orca - sub 6 - GO FOR IT!!!

Doner Kebab    pirate
21/10/2011 at 14:08
AH - re your last post - do you think there would be any point in me dropping training to such a relatively low level in the first few weeks considering I alrdy train 12 + hours a week and do 2 or 3 workouts a day . My thinkingg is just keep doing what I am until the fink program calls for more . I am thinking of the competitive plan because I feel that the intermediate is only s little more than I'm doing now
21/10/2011 at 14:50
THE BOOK has arrived in the post today so I shall be having a little read this evening and see what this Fink is all about.  I have a pal entered into this too and keep on at him about turbo through the winter.....he is now looking for a turbo and think he got a shock at the price on Wiggle, bless him.  Sooooo, if anyone has an old magnetic turbo they fancy selling off, please let me know.   I am determined that this pal will train properly this time and not pass out at the finish like he did at the Vit, spoilt my drinking time.
21/10/2011 at 16:59
Doner Kebab wrote (see)
AH - re your last post - do you think there would be any point in me dropping training to such a relatively low level in the first few weeks considering I alrdy train 12 + hours a week and do 2 or 3 workouts a day .

DK - it depends if your really looking to follow the programme or just fit it into your current schedule....Fink sells it as training for people on a time budget...if your able to train three times a day then this is not you....there are loads of programmes out there maybe they wouls suit you better?

I work awful shifts so i have to take my training where i can get it. So i use the book as a guide...but my main aim is to cover the three long sessions and everything else is a bonus for me

Running Postie    pirate
21/10/2011 at 18:17

to put the record straight, I have watched the 'life of brian,' but was trying desperately to delude myself into thinking I am still 21! pleeese don't spoil an old farts dream

Doner there is no-way..nada...never, will you see me attempt Rutland marathon again, not after last year. It was bl**dy freezing, my feet were ice for the first 13 miles and when they did thaw out, I wish they hadn't.

I could be tempted to run Worksop half with you and push you round to get you a PB. Send me PM if your interested. 

Saffers wrote (see)

THE BOOK has arrived in the post today so I shall be having a little read this evening and see what this Fink is all about.

where's my book gone? time to chase Amazon
Doner Kebab    pirate
21/10/2011 at 23:22

thanks FF - the only reason i took on Finks plan really is because its tried and tested, like you say im not really time poor but another way of looking at it is if i can make the most of my time, I can fit in even more training     as with you, i want to get in all the key sessions, but i need some sort of guide for building my fitness. i need to train smarter and cut the junk workouts.

Postie - ill send you a pm tommorow - and look on the bright side - its warmer this year atm, might be doing rutland in shorts              but i doubt it

22/10/2011 at 08:43
If you are feeling fresh and capable, just continue ticking over with your current week until fink catches up. It's stupid throwing fitness away/ letting it degrade if you have the time and inclination to maintain it. I think that's ESP true of biking/ swimming.

However, if your current schedule/ volume is really tough then drop back to fink levels so you don't get bored / CBA by april/may. That's when you should be really hitting the volume, not in January

I just had a 4 weeks off, then my program for the last 2 weeks was about 15-18hrs, all about getting my training bike/ run commuting going again, but also throwing big bikes in straight away at the weekend- ie maintaining the fitness I had over the summer....
Running Postie    pirate
22/10/2011 at 19:10
wohoo Fink is in da house
bburn plO.dder    pirate
22/10/2011 at 21:43
Fink rocks!!!!!
22/10/2011 at 23:01
Bburn - realised before the roses tickets went on sale that it was same weekend as outlaw, absolutely gutted, but committed to outlaw.

Saffers what do you think of THE BOOK? Took me two reads to get my head around it!
bburn plO.dder    pirate
22/10/2011 at 23:12
I know TJ1004, I think because it was June, it didn't register with me that it was the same weekend!
bburn plO.dder    pirate
22/10/2011 at 23:13
I've managed to loose my picture!
23/10/2011 at 08:26

I thought Fink was all a bit OTT....

but it has a plan, and for the first timer, thats pretty damn important.

As an alternative you can use 'going long' as a basis,  or beginner triathlete have somebasic plans, or you can pay a little money for something a bit better.

Joe friel has another book out with a bit more detail/plans as well.

The important thing about any of them is they make you get out there!

23/10/2011 at 10:21
DK - FF makes a good point about finding other plans that might suit you better. My thought was that you could look at all the diff sessions you do (three a day etc) and have a think about the purpose of each work out is. With any prog - marathon or IM or anything - every single work out should have a purpose. It's not helpful necessarily to just go out 'for a run' in the middle of the day becau you've an hour to spare. You need to know that it's a recovery run or a threshold run to boost speed endurance or a long slow run to build running economy etc. Sounds like you may have some junk miles in there that aren't necessarily doing anything or giving you any real training benefit.

Also, when you're IM training, that lunchtime slot might be really important as a rest period so you have enough juice in the tank for whatever you've got to do that night. Rest and recovery are really important 'sessions'.

So it sounds like you need to train smarter. You might end up doing fewer hours at first, but if you're putting structured quality in, less is more sometimes.

But as OC says, if you're fitter that the programme is on the bike, say, I think you could make your long bikes longer than the prog says - as long as you still leave room for gradual increases in volume. And if you've already got a good base fitness, you might get to the stage where you can do 100 miles easily, in which case, again, instead of banging out 100 miles every weekend, you could do that once a month, knock it right back to 50 the following week, then do a couple of weeks where you're doing good quality 70 or 80 milers. Friel's Going Long has lots of interesting ways to work hard on a long bike ride that will keep you from getting bored!
Edited: 23/10/2011 at 10:22
23/10/2011 at 10:30
Blimey, I do go on a bit.

For me, using Fink as a base guide to structure and volume, I actually ended up working out what i wanted my long run, long bike and long swim to be that week, and whether or not I wanted to put in a tough-ish brick too and put those all in with enough rest between. Then slotted other sessions in around that skeleton, primarily making sure I had max poss rest between 'leg sessions'. I'm an alright swimmer so swim sessions aren't knackering and provided a good way to get in some quality between big leg days giving legs a time to recover.
23/10/2011 at 16:25
hennie - you should be a mentor....
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