Full Ironman in UK next year? - Triathlon

Pantman

02/09/2003 at 14:38

With the reports of rampant, blatant and widespread drafting at IMUK last weekend, do you think that the possibility of the Full IM next year has diminished? They are VERY precise about standards, you know...

Dr Nic Twinks

02/09/2003 at 15:15

Jonathon...it's all your fault...

;-)

Pantman

02/09/2003 at 15:18

Personally I want to do a full Uk IM in 2005, so it would suit me fine! It'd be nice to do the 1st one!

Daz

02/09/2003 at 15:33

I quite like doing a touch of draftign every now and then. But wouldnt want to risk getting dq'd so I wouldnt do it in a big, well organised race.

If they have motorbikes then definite no-no.

Looking forward to seeing pantman get down to business. London a-g next year first mate ;o)

WildWill..... pirate

pirate

02/09/2003 at 15:40

The race i did at the weekend had motorbike draft busters and they were BTA officals at that

cougie

pirate

02/09/2003 at 15:53

Ya cheat Daz ! But you say you are happy to do so when you won't get caught ? Hmmm.

I wouldn't be happy with that if I knew I'd had an unfair advantage. I've never drafted in any Time Trial or Duathlon I've done.

Jose.

02/09/2003 at 16:02

i can try the half next year, but couldn't do the full, so i hope they keep it for one year more, amd then change to full.

RichardM

02/09/2003 at 16:07

I'm with you Cougie on the drafting issue.

In terms of whether it will go full next year or not, I think the bigger problem was the start delay. Obviously it was unavoidable, but delaying the start by an hour and a half is not really an option in the full event when the cut off time even with a 7am start is 11pm.

One of the reasons they moved it from Llanberis was to try and get better weather and sods law it was a foggy morning on what was otherwise perfect conditions.

Bionic Ironwolf pirate

pirate

02/09/2003 at 16:10

Here in Germany they use motorbike marshals at almost every race, even sprints, and the rules are strictly enforced. First drafting offence is a yellow card, 2nd is a red (just like in football) and you're DQ. It's not a problem for me - I'm not fast enough to draft! Oy!

Daz

02/09/2003 at 16:13

coug,
i dont draft in races that state you are not allowed to ie 99.9% of them. only time ive drafted is with mate when training, in corp games 2002 when it was allowed, and in races where you are so bunched up you have no choice but to stay on your side of the road behind someone else....unless you want to drop back 50m!

ive never done in an event and never been cautioned ....so there!

rich will back me up as we were around each other for a couple of miles. right rich?

Daz

02/09/2003 at 16:14

other reason they moved was because the locals in llanberis were not happy with the road closures. miserable buggers!

cougie

pirate

02/09/2003 at 16:16

Hmmm - not quite what you wrote before...

But ho hum. You should try two up Time trials. They usually start the season off. That's quite good fun, and works even if one of you is a bit fitter than the other.

Daz

02/09/2003 at 16:19

i admit i love drafting, but like you say, id feel guilty at the end of the day if i was one of a few that did it and didnt get caught. i like a fair comp..

firemonkey

02/09/2003 at 16:39

Hi Daz, nothing to do with this thread but you've got mail.

Daz

02/09/2003 at 16:49

gotcha

02/09/2003 at 17:43

If anyone's not yet fed up with my clueless questioning: can someone tell me how you can AVOID drafting if you're in a huge group?

fat buddha

02/09/2003 at 17:54

when I marshalled at the London Tri I had some good chats with one of the motorbike drafting marshalls. his view was quite clear - there is no way you can stop drafting when you have big groups. what he was more concerned with was collusion between one or more riders to ride in a bunch and help each other out. so he would be keep a beady eye on groups of riders over a stretch of road and if he felt they were not colluding, would do nothing. he did penalise a couple of guys he said were deliberately helping each other.

Mitchie Moo

03/09/2003 at 11:20

Unfortunately on Sunday with the mass swim start it was impossible not to draft especially in the groups around 2:30-2:40. The motorbikes ended up being part of the pelotons, they would have to seriously think about this for next year or avoid the mass start.

cougie

pirate

03/09/2003 at 11:45

What exactly is the drafting regulation ? Daz mentioned summat like 50 metres behind ?? I can't see much advantage if you are a bike length behind.

Mitchie Moo

03/09/2003 at 12:09

Its 10metres behind or to the side of the rider in front, if you wnat to overtake you have to do so within a time frame of 30secs.