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15/05/2013 at 20:53

Found the Gpx so hubby sorting that for me 

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15/05/2013 at 21:01


Loads of marshals, no chance of getting lost 

16/05/2013 at 07:58

phew, not going to have time to recce the full route (despite living pretty close).

Is anyone going to think badly of me if I can't get up the blooming hill at oxton? I have had 2 attempts so far and failed.

16/05/2013 at 09:33

A good tip for Oxton is to count your pedal revs which takes your mind of the pain of getting up the climb.

From memory, it took 150 revs to get from the signpost at the bottom to where it levels off at the top.  For some reason, knowing the pain is finite really helps me get up there.

And in 2011 we had to do it three times.

But if all else fails, no-one will think badly of you.  You could always pretend you had a mechanical and walk the last bit...not that I've done that before you understand...

16/05/2013 at 09:44

, so I should frown at the bike and fiddle a bit, get to the top and fiddle a bit more, jump back on and pedal nonchalantly? I am going to try to get up it again this sunday, and probably the sunday after too, I'll try the counting tip

16/05/2013 at 09:49

Do you have a triple? If so whack on the lowest of the low and keep moving forward what's the gradient of Oxton?

16/05/2013 at 10:00

Eek walking and triples? I don't have a triple and come from the flat lands of East Anglia. Ah well I shall give it a go at least we only have to do it once.

Thanks for the pointer to the GPS files.

16/05/2013 at 10:10

Oxton Bank is about 12% I think - steepish, but not like a wall.  And it is worth it for the long downhill into Southwell.

16/05/2013 at 10:46
Timmy_G wrote (see)

Oxton Bank is about 12% I think - steepish, but not like a wall.  And it is worth it for the long downhill into Southwell.

I see everyone is wibbling about Oxton again! Some stats for you:


 The "12 %" section is maybe 50 yards long at the most, that's if you can find it!!

16/05/2013 at 10:55

I don't think there's any contour lines that close together in the whole of East Anglia.  

16/05/2013 at 12:21

I'd given up worrying about that hill, now I'm starting to worry all over again. I noticed a hill the other day that said 11% and I'm just about to go out on my bike. Might try it. It was quite hairy coming down it.

Fortunately I can't read the writing on that map even with glasses

I think I'll just stick to worrying about the swimming and whether I'll meet the cut off

16/05/2013 at 12:31

The writing says:

Height as A = 75 m Height at B = 124 m
Distance from A to B approximately X = 650 m
Change in elevation Y = B - A = 124 - 75 = 49 m
Means gradient A to B = 49 / 650 = 0.0754 = 7.54%
Or approximately 1 in 13 in old money! 

The mythical "12%" section is very short, to be honest I have my doubts that it even exists. Oxton Hill is on one of my local loops! Also you only go up it once!

16/05/2013 at 12:41

Little sister - where are you? I live in Southwell - Oxton has become one of my loops - well only done that loop twice but not managed to get up it either time - I am hoping race day adrenaline and bloody-mindedness will get me up it.

it is good to know I am not the only one worrying about everything 

Southern snail, I am a little worried about the swim cutoff too, haven't been in OW yet this year, more worried about the bike cutoff. If I make those 2 cutoffs I only have the run to worry about, and I know I can walk a half marathon in the cutoff time for that so I will be fine once I am off the bike

16/05/2013 at 12:48

I live north of Mansfield, but I occassionally take a loop down through Oxton to Southwell & back! Not this weekend though, got Stilletos on Wheels to occupy me!    It's a women only mountainbike race near Sheffield!

Don't be afraid to use your "Granny gear" on Oxton Hill if you need to, make sure you've changed gear before you start to struggle! Another trick is to focus on a point a little bit up the road and ride to it, then focus on the next point you want to get to, then the next (fence post, trees, signs, etc...). The main thing is to find a tempo you can ride at comfortably!

Edited: 16/05/2013 at 12:52
16/05/2013 at 13:43

Numpty question is 1 in 13 easier or harder than 1 in 10, I think it's easier but want to check.

16/05/2013 at 14:17


1 in 13 you go up 1 foot (or meter, or inch, or mile, etc) for every 13 you travel horizontally
1 in 10 you go up 1 foot for every 10 you travel horizontally!

If a gradient is indicated as "%" then the higher the % is the steeper it will be. If it is shown as "1 in " then the smaller the second value the steeper it is.

16/05/2013 at 14:17

Well bike ride done including 11% bit. Glad I did it for 2 reasons. First the phsycologial bit. It actually wasn't that bad. I realised I'd done worse and I didn't even go into the granny ring (is that the smallest of the 3) and the second reason was that I promised myself before I got there that if I did it I would manage to swim 2 loops on saturday in open water

Mathschick - been open water twice now and it was horrible. 400m completed

In the pool I can do the half distance in about 40mins but panic breaststroke and not being able to breathe makes me doubt it. How long do we get? 1hour?

16/05/2013 at 17:25

Southern Snail, I am going to Thorpe on Sunday, hope to do 1600m, I increase a 400m loop each time I go, so that I feel I am making progress.

I also have decided not to worry about the hill, I know that I walk up 17% and 20% hills so am hoping I could cycle up anything less.

19/05/2013 at 20:28

Im going down to Padstow Cornwall on Friday 24th May and back for the Half Outlaw on 1st June....... its going to be hard to keep the training in full swing

I think Im going to leave my bike at home and just swim and run

Im shitting it really 

My wife thinks it will be a nice relaxing family holiday but I have the Full Outlaw in a few weeks also

19/05/2013 at 20:33

I did the route for the half on Saturday and found it a really great route, some real fast bits.   I have decided to put my Tri bars back on for it.  

Slightly worried about no open water sessions as yet as I have a new wetsuit that I have yet to try.  I'm planning on getting to Thorpe lakes on Tuesday just to put my mind to rest.

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