I go the Turbo Trainer... So what next?

What should I buy to help me get on the turbo?

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08/10/2012 at 09:05

I use sports headphones.

Cortina5    pirate
08/10/2012 at 09:10

Khanivore, get the Allen and Coggan book "Training and racing with a power meter". It makes even more sense.

Cheerful Dave    pirate
08/10/2012 at 09:31

If you have an old bike you can leave on the turbo it helps, it doesn't need to be roadworthy, for a while I used one that had only one functioning gear and just changed the resistance on the turbo at I went along.  No need to get quite so worried about corroding the headset either.

Some road tyres work well on a turbo, others just melt.  If you use a turbo tyre you'll need to swap the tyre (or the whole wheel) before taking your bike back on the road.

08/10/2012 at 13:28

Disagree with that link on 2*20s -  they are traditionally done at 100% ftp - in other words 2 work intervals of 20 minutes each done at what you could sustain (and I take that to mean in a race with all the motivation that entails) for an hour.   In other words pretty much as hard as you can manage in a garage without the extra motivation of a number on your back.

85% ftp is a much easier session - maybe a good starting point but you could do a lot longer and get a greater training load in at that level - if 2*20 of that is your hard session then you wont make many gains imo.   

Further discussion and different points of view here http://forum.slowtwitch.com/forum/Slowtwitch_Forums_C1/Triathlon_Forum_F1/2x20s%3B_What_Percentage_of_FTP_P3755527

Cortina5    pirate
08/10/2012 at 13:48

Isn't 85% of FTP sweetspot?

08/10/2012 at 14:59


08/10/2012 at 16:38

Ironcat - i don't have a power meter. I will be training with the virtual power generated by trainerroad.com. I plan to just follow their routines.

Cortina5    pirate
08/10/2012 at 17:38
Khanivore wrote (see)

Ironcat - i don't have a power meter. I will be training with the virtual power generated by trainerroad.com. I plan to just follow their routines.

It is still 'power', and you're still training to a percentage of a number generated in a max test. So long as the number is repeatable it doesn't matter if it's accurate, watts or whats (official unit of virtual power) It's worth a read alone to know why you're given the routine and what it is doing to you.

I can't remeber who said it, but I think there is an element of truth in the "ask yourself what the purpose of the day's session is".

popsider wrote (see)


Just had a quick recap. SS is 88-94%, so 85 would be tempo/near SS. Not a bad place to be in. Allen et al suggest SS as one of the most beneficial places to train. My legs can't handle 2 FTP workouts in a week, with all the other stuff included, so one of my turbos will be SS from now on.

Will read the ST article.

08/10/2012 at 17:39

Turbo doesnt have to be complicated, I dont have a power meter, or anything to look at other than the garage door, I do use a HRM now to keep my effort honest though.

I have a few different sessions that span 60 to 90mins that I'm happy to share if anyone wants (I'm not a great cyclist though !). I struggle to get my HR up outdoors so Turbo is a good option for me, and I dont bother to ride outdoors unless I have more than 90mins available.

meface    pirate
08/10/2012 at 23:12

Depends on your budget and space limitations.

I have a bent steel framed bike that lives on the turbo. Speeds up session start/end. If you have a spare bike/wheel then a turbo tyre is worth it to save the wear on a road tyre and they are quietier IMHO.

Also saves the road bike from sweat and more lost time washing it.

I have just splashed out on a big home cinema amp from ebay. With careful buying you can get an older 5-channel home cinema amp that would have been £1000-£2000 for £100. Couple of big speakers and the garage can rival a spinning studio for noise.

TV Screen is next on the list!

Somewhere to stick drinks/food.

Sessions to do. Tacx have some printable sessions on their website that would work with any turbo trainer.



09/10/2012 at 16:03

Have you acquired any of the turbo training guides by Peter Read ?

All solid, how to use a turbo to win races/time trials training sessions.  some are brutally hard ( on paper ).

I use mine with an ipad and some decent headphones.  great as long as the netflix keeps moving and the content is pacey. No time to get into drama/costume/soap nonsense!

and im just doing lots of L2 spinning every time. building a base and loosing the pounds


10/10/2012 at 09:10

if anyone wants to get some Sufferfest videos, they're offering a 10% off for today only - use the code CANTBEWRONG when checking out


meface    pirate
13/10/2012 at 21:12

The longest hardest one!

Rafiki    pirate
13/10/2012 at 21:34

EP - the Sufferfest website does gove a prety good description of each video and what its good for - spped, hills, intervals etc - so it depends what you're training for?

meface    pirate
13/10/2012 at 21:53
The Evil Pixie wrote (see)

err no that wasn't what I was expecting or wanting to hear!

Sorry I thought you said you were a temptress but realise it now says tempted. Goes back to the beer.

Cortina5    pirate
13/10/2012 at 22:08

The Long Scream.

13/10/2012 at 23:25

Sufferfest...  is that as horrible as it sounds? 

Are they worth the money and how do they work?


If I do the training I will be powering up the hills rather than panting up them like a gorilla on a bicycle.  SO then only corners to learn and downhills - just how does one stop getting frighten going fast down them?

I should have stuck to just running!  At least that was only one sport I was bad at...  now I have three to total unwhelm at...  Thank goodness transition isn't a sport!

meface    pirate
13/10/2012 at 23:54
Bright White Trainers wrote (see)

 - just how does one stop getting frighten going fast down them?

Simples - slow down. If you are going fast for any given corner and on the limit then it is still frightening. If not go faster. Probably gets less panicky but that is all.

14/10/2012 at 00:00

Well I bought two and don't use them so for me no - but the guy I gave them to does use them so maybe just buy one and see what you think ?    They play on your PC so you'll need some loud speakers if you want to hear the music over your turbo - and they work on doing periods of time at effort levels 1-10 - so either you are happy just guessing how hard a 7 is and how hard a 9 is etc or else you need to work it out to power or speed and work to that.    

I just didn't see the advantage of that over doing a set of fixed intervals, 2*20 , 5*4,   minute on minute off etc and listening to my own music on an ipod.   They are only as hard as you make them - people that are doing several back to back must be doing them at such a low intensity that it doesn't seem worthwhile from a training perspective.      

edit - x-post -  must learn to type less 

Edited: 14/10/2012 at 00:01
Cortina5    pirate
14/10/2012 at 09:42

If you don't want to go down the route of Sufferfest, try Chrissie Wellington's AudioFuel workouts (see their website). No video, only soundtrack. She tells you what cadence to be in, and when to do it. Music is at correct cadence so it's simple.

And like SF you can either hammer it or do an easy session. Got me through a winter and many hotel bike sessions for the Outlaw.

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