I go the Turbo Trainer... So what next?

What should I buy to help me get on the turbo?

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JvR
08/10/2012 at 08:59

I've got a couple of the Spinervals DVDs with 40 to 50 minutes sessions on them.
Definitely have something to watch while your on the turbo and something to play them with. I use a laptop with an external speaker attached as even on maximum volume the turbo drowns out the laptop speakers.

08/10/2012 at 09:05

I use sports headphones.

IronCat5    pirate
08/10/2012 at 09:10

Khanivore, get the Allen and Coggan book "Training and racing with a power meter". It makes even more sense.

Cheerful Dave    pirate
08/10/2012 at 09:31

If you have an old bike you can leave on the turbo it helps, it doesn't need to be roadworthy, for a while I used one that had only one functioning gear and just changed the resistance on the turbo at I went along.  No need to get quite so worried about corroding the headset either.

Some road tyres work well on a turbo, others just melt.  If you use a turbo tyre you'll need to swap the tyre (or the whole wheel) before taking your bike back on the road.

08/10/2012 at 13:28

Disagree with that link on 2*20s -  they are traditionally done at 100% ftp - in other words 2 work intervals of 20 minutes each done at what you could sustain (and I take that to mean in a race with all the motivation that entails) for an hour.   In other words pretty much as hard as you can manage in a garage without the extra motivation of a number on your back.

85% ftp is a much easier session - maybe a good starting point but you could do a lot longer and get a greater training load in at that level - if 2*20 of that is your hard session then you wont make many gains imo.   

Further discussion and different points of view here http://forum.slowtwitch.com/forum/Slowtwitch_Forums_C1/Triathlon_Forum_F1/2x20s%3B_What_Percentage_of_FTP_P3755527

IronCat5    pirate
08/10/2012 at 13:48

Isn't 85% of FTP sweetspot?

08/10/2012 at 14:59

Yes

08/10/2012 at 16:38

Ironcat - i don't have a power meter. I will be training with the virtual power generated by trainerroad.com. I plan to just follow their routines.

IronCat5    pirate
08/10/2012 at 17:38
Khanivore wrote (see)

Ironcat - i don't have a power meter. I will be training with the virtual power generated by trainerroad.com. I plan to just follow their routines.

It is still 'power', and you're still training to a percentage of a number generated in a max test. So long as the number is repeatable it doesn't matter if it's accurate, watts or whats (official unit of virtual power) It's worth a read alone to know why you're given the routine and what it is doing to you.

I can't remeber who said it, but I think there is an element of truth in the "ask yourself what the purpose of the day's session is".

popsider wrote (see)

Yes

Just had a quick recap. SS is 88-94%, so 85 would be tempo/near SS. Not a bad place to be in. Allen et al suggest SS as one of the most beneficial places to train. My legs can't handle 2 FTP workouts in a week, with all the other stuff included, so one of my turbos will be SS from now on.

Will read the ST article.

TR
08/10/2012 at 17:39

Turbo doesnt have to be complicated, I dont have a power meter, or anything to look at other than the garage door, I do use a HRM now to keep my effort honest though.

I have a few different sessions that span 60 to 90mins that I'm happy to share if anyone wants (I'm not a great cyclist though !). I struggle to get my HR up outdoors so Turbo is a good option for me, and I dont bother to ride outdoors unless I have more than 90mins available.

meface    pirate
08/10/2012 at 23:12

Depends on your budget and space limitations.

I have a bent steel framed bike that lives on the turbo. Speeds up session start/end. If you have a spare bike/wheel then a turbo tyre is worth it to save the wear on a road tyre and they are quietier IMHO.

Also saves the road bike from sweat and more lost time washing it.

I have just splashed out on a big home cinema amp from ebay. With careful buying you can get an older 5-channel home cinema amp that would have been £1000-£2000 for £100. Couple of big speakers and the garage can rival a spinning studio for noise.

TV Screen is next on the list!

Somewhere to stick drinks/food.

Sessions to do. Tacx have some printable sessions on their website that would work with any turbo trainer.

 

 

09/10/2012 at 16:03

Have you acquired any of the turbo training guides by Peter Read ?

All solid, how to use a turbo to win races/time trials training sessions.  some are brutally hard ( on paper ).

I use mine with an ipad and some decent headphones.  great as long as the netflix keeps moving and the content is pacey. No time to get into drama/costume/soap nonsense!

and im just doing lots of L2 spinning every time. building a base and loosing the pounds

 

10/10/2012 at 09:10

if anyone wants to get some Sufferfest videos, they're offering a 10% off for today only - use the code CANTBEWRONG when checking out

#afbpublicserviceannouncement  

The Evil Pixie    pirate
13/10/2012 at 17:18

OK so for a bike numpty who needs to improve what is the best sufferfest video to start with??

I'm tempted

meface    pirate
13/10/2012 at 21:12

The longest hardest one!

The Evil Pixie    pirate
13/10/2012 at 21:31

err no that wasn't what I was expecting or wanting to hear!

Rafiki    pirate
13/10/2012 at 21:34

EP - the Sufferfest website does gove a prety good description of each video and what its good for - spped, hills, intervals etc - so it depends what you're training for?

meface    pirate
13/10/2012 at 21:53
The Evil Pixie wrote (see)

err no that wasn't what I was expecting or wanting to hear!

Sorry I thought you said you were a temptress but realise it now says tempted. Goes back to the beer.

IronCat5    pirate
13/10/2012 at 22:08

The Long Scream.

BWT
13/10/2012 at 23:25

Sufferfest...  is that as horrible as it sounds? 

Are they worth the money and how do they work?

 

If I do the training I will be powering up the hills rather than panting up them like a gorilla on a bicycle.  SO then only corners to learn and downhills - just how does one stop getting frighten going fast down them?

I should have stuck to just running!  At least that was only one sport I was bad at...  now I have three to total unwhelm at...  Thank goodness transition isn't a sport!

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